The Running Thread - 2016

QOTD: Lets discuss running shorts. What do you like or dislike in a pair of running shorts? What are you looking for when you buy shorts?

ATTQOTD: I also run primarily in SparkleSkirts in the summer months. The shorts don't ride up and lots of cargo space. Plus they are pretty and I love me some pretty running clothes. In cooler temps I run in capris or tights. My latest obsession is INKnBURN. Love their stuff. I did try a pair of their shorts, but they rode up on me and caused some chafing. Their capris and tights are awesome though, but I wish they had more pocket space.
 
QOTD: Lets discuss running shorts. What do you like or dislike in a pair of running shorts? What are you looking for when you buy shorts?
Well I'm going to be the bad guy for this one. I don't have any running shorts... From my football days and just being a kid I just wear athletic shorts but nothing running specific. I've never had a problem with it but I'll probably eventually buy running shorts.
 
ATTQOTD: Not picky at all about my running shorts. I prefer shorts without the liner since I wear compression shorts under my running shorts. But I cut the liner out if I like a pair and they have a liner. My only "must have" is a zipper pocket for my car key since I drive to every run and my car does not have an electronic keypad.
 
ATTQOTD: I love shorts with a zipper. My SPI belt barely holds my phone, so I like the zipper for my key. Otherwise I'm always patting the "hidden pocket" to make sure the key is there. I generally like shorts to be short and usually plain black or dark gray because it matches with anything! But now that I run sometimes on basically a highway, I like them to be super bright so I'm more visible. I tried Honey Stingers for the first time on my last half marathon and pockets were indispensable for holding them. Otherwise, I'm not sure how I would have carried them. A great tip I read about carrying gu's/gels is to safety pin them to your waistband and flip them inside, then when you need them you can tear them off.

previous QOTD: When training for my first half, I didn't have a plan. My friend sent me a picture of her half plan and I'm not sure where she got it from. I saw that it gradually increased her long runs to almost 13 miles. I knew I had a tendency to get injured and overtrain if I do too much too fast and I went online and read a bunch of tips and most importantly saw that running slow was key; so I slowly increased my long runs from 8 miles to 13 miles over 5 months.

Question for those who fuel during runs: what do you use? I don't drink water during my runs (luckily live in a humidity free, temperate climate) and don't typically fuel either. But that lead to a serious boinking during my first half. Did fine with Honey Stingers on my next half. But was wondering if there was a better alternative. Do I always need to drink water with a gu/gel?
 

QOTD: Lets discuss running shorts. What do you like or dislike in a pair of running shorts? What are you looking for when you buy shorts?
I have thunder thighs so for me shorts are not an option. I run in capris until the winter when I switch to pants. Sparkle skirts are something I've considered but I'm not sure where they lay on me and even if I knew I don't think I could swallow the amount of money they cost.
 
QOTD: Lets discuss running shorts. What do you like or dislike in a pair of running shorts? What are you looking for when you buy shorts?

I run in shorts on the long side. My daily training shorts are Asics 2-in-1 shorts with a semi-compression liner. My long run and race shorts are CW-X compression shorts. Both have 7-9" inseams, which thankfully most of my bike and tri shorts do too. I've got enough crazy arm tan lines as it is.
 
So - I've seen two specialists, I've had a steroid shot and now I'm going for the next alternative to deal with my hip pain.

I'm visiting a sports chiro for ART therapy and an adjustment to see if that will temporarily help my pain.

Fingers crossed that works. Otherwise, it's just battle through the pain - icing, topical solutions, pain meds and sleep aids at night - and then get a steroid shot before each race weekend I have coming up.

I'd rather not do any of that, but I'd also like to sleep like a normal person again as well.
@Keels I hope you find some relief! FWIW I suffer from chronic hip problems due to scoliosis: I find my chiro to be invaluable in managing it for distance running. Between her work and practicing yoga, I'm pain-free most of the time.

QOTD: Lets discuss running shorts. What do you like or dislike in a pair of running shorts? What are you looking for when you buy shorts?
ATTQOTD: I stopped wearing shorts! I used to wear 3" ones - traditional running shorts, lightweight, with the built-in panty. But they were always bunching up and driving me nuts. Then I discovered the beauty and wonder of running skirts, and I've never gone back to shorts. :thumbsup2
 
I will also agree with @Miranda and @MommaoffherRocker! I only run in Sparkle Skirts. Seriously, they have the BEST pockets you could ask for. 5x5" pockets on each leg and a zippered pocket in the waistband with a 12" zipper. The pocket itself runs from side seam to side seam so it is even bigger than 12". It is an addiction also, lol. I have 11 skirts with 3 more coming and I am in the minority on number of skirts owned!
 
ATTQOTD: Not picky at all about my running shorts. I prefer shorts without the liner since I wear compression shorts under my running shorts. But I cut the liner out if I like a pair and they have a liner. My only "must have" is a zipper pocket for my car key since I drive to every run and my car does not have an electronic keypad.
I used to insist on the zippered key pocket as well when I drive to the trails, but I went a little while ago and wore the "wrong" shorts so I had nowhere to put my Jeep key. I ended up just hiding my key up in the wheelwell and it worked out fine, and I've used that trick a couple times since. Maybe I'm just too trusting towards trail runners and hikers??

I have thunder thighs so for me shorts are not an option. I run in capris until the winter when I switch to pants. Sparkle skirts are something I've considered but I'm not sure where they lay on me and even if I knew I don't think I could swallow the amount of money they cost.
They aren't thunder thighs...they're RUN-der thighs!
 
Question for those who fuel during runs: what do you use? I don't drink water during my runs (luckily live in a humidity free, temperate climate) and don't typically fuel either. But that lead to a serious boinking during my first half. Did fine with Honey Stingers on my next half. But was wondering if there was a better alternative. Do I always need to drink water with a gu/gel?
I only fuel during runs longer than 15 miles, and then as little as possible. I only carry something to drink on runs longer than 10 miles in the heat, and 13 miles in cooler weather.

When I fuel, I do so with Gatorade/Powerade at drink stops and with Sport Beans (introduced to me in a post by @Keels ). In training runs, I wear a Camelbak to hold my fluids, but only drink at the intervals which correspond with the water stops along the course for the race for which I am training. I move the Sport Beans to a ziplock bag to make access easier during the race.
 
ATTQOTD: I go for typical running shorts 5" or longer (typically 7". At 5" I still feel a little on display, and I'm not that tall). Unless they are boxer brief type liners, I always cut them out (less body glide needed). The thing that bugs me about most running shorts is a lack of pockets. My spibelt is great, but I've discovered Patagonia's strider pro (or something), with a zipper pocket in the back and 2 pockets on either hip. For races I'm totally covered for phone, fuel, extra body glide, salt tabs, key, ID, and all without the belt!
 
Hoping for a good turnout for you in the long run. :earsboy:

Thanks!

@Keels I hope you find some relief! FWIW I suffer from chronic hip problems due to scoliosis: I find my chiro to be invaluable in managing it for distance running. Between her work and practicing yoga, I'm pain-free most of the time.

That's GREAT to know! The guy I'm going to specializes in treatment and recovery for endurance athletes and has won a bunch of awards, so I'm hopeful that he can help.

I only fuel during runs longer than 15 miles, and then as little as possible. I only carry something to drink on runs longer than 10 miles in the heat, and 13 miles in cooler weather.

When I fuel, I do so with Gatorade/Powerade at drink stops and with Sport Beans (introduced to me in a post by @Keels ). In training runs, I wear a Camelbak to hold my fluids, but only drink at the intervals which correspond with the water stops along the course for the race for which I am training. I move the Sport Beans to a ziplock bag to make access easier during the race.

Mmmmm ... Sports Beans. No lie, I had some the other day as an afternoon snack because they were there and sounded delicious at the time.

QOTD: Lets discuss running shorts. What do you like or dislike in a pair of running shorts? What are you looking for when you buy shorts?

I'm pretty picky on how stuff touches me - like, I don't want to feel it at all or else it annoys me.

I wear Sparkle Skirts, but I recently found a seamstress that can make the same skirts - with slight alterations to the skirt to the way I want them - for a fraction of the SS price. Plus, they're all custom, so I get to pick the style I want instead of waiting around to see what SS comes up with. They don't have the zipper pocket, but that's OK. I usually wear my water belt with the anyway, so the zipper pocket is pretty moot.
 
So - I've seen two specialists, I've had a steroid shot and now I'm going for the next alternative to deal with my hip pain.

I'm visiting a sports chiro for ART therapy and an adjustment to see if that will temporarily help my pain.

Fingers crossed that works. Otherwise, it's just battle through the pain - icing, topical solutions, pain meds and sleep aids at night - and then get a steroid shot before each race weekend I have coming up.

I'd rather not do any of that, but I'd also like to sleep like a normal person again as well.

Do you practice yoga regularly? A regular yoga practice can mimic a lot of what chiropractors do, like finding imbalances, aligning the spine and pelvic girdle, etc. and in addition, strengthen weak muscles. It's also been proven to help with chronic pain. I'm not saying yoga should take the place of chiros or meds and such, just that it can be a powerful tool on your road to recovery. I say this as a former yoga instructor and former chronic pain sufferer. :thumbsup2
 
Do you practice yoga regularly? A regular yoga practice can mimic a lot of what chiropractors do, like finding imbalances, aligning the spine and pelvic girdle, etc. and in addition, strengthen weak muscles. It's also been proven to help with chronic pain. I'm not saying yoga should take the place of chiros or meds and such, just that it can be a powerful tool on your road to recovery. I say this as a former yoga instructor and former chronic pain sufferer. :thumbsup2

I don't as often as I (obviously) should. But I will make a concerted effort going forward to include it more often. I've definitely learned my lesson now!
 
I generally wear running shorts or capris instead of shorts in the Summer. I echo a lot of what other people said in that those options feel more comfortable to me than shorts. No bunching up, etc. On another note, I registered for the Star Wars dark side half today so that's my Spring half marathon nailed down :) I'm also doing the Rock and Roll DC half in March since I got it for $50 so I'll treat that as my race for time and the Star Wars race for fun.
 
ATTQOTD:
All about the 3 inch shorts with split sides. Allows me more freedom of movement. A back zipper used to be a must, but I don't carry my gels with me during training runs for very long and I'm slowly attempting to phase out gels completely for racing.

Question for those who fuel during runs: what do you use? I don't drink water during my runs (luckily live in a humidity free, temperate climate) and don't typically fuel either. But that lead to a serious boinking during my first half. Did fine with Honey Stingers on my next half. But was wondering if there was a better alternative. Do I always need to drink water with a gu/gel?

For during races, I use E-Gel. I believe it was McFlurry John that recommended them some time ago when I was a lurker, and they really fit the profile of what I'm looking for in a gel. For carb consumption, keep in mind the following. It takes 1 oz of water to absorb every 2 g carbs. So if you eat 24 g carbs, then you need to have 12 oz of water available in your body to properly absorb this. The body bests absorbs the water in smaller doses than one large dose (i.e. better to take in 3 oz of water every mile, then 12 oz of water every 4 miles). Typically, when people get "gut rot" or "gut cramps", it's because they don't have sufficient water to absorb what they just consumed. The body in response will actually pull water from your leg muscles in order to absorb the carbs in the gut (stomach has precedence over muscles during running, who woulda thunk it?). Which in turn actually dehydrates your muscles faster, then if you had consumed no carbs at all.

Now, the 1 oz water to 2 g carb ratio is under ideal conditions. If you were to run a race in hot/humid conditions which caused a higher sweat rate, your need for water goes up because you need the water for your sweat rate AND the carb absorption.

With all that being said, you're planning on running a half marathon in about 1:40. As long as you go into the run near 100% carb capacity in your muscles (i.e. you taper prior to the half marathon), then you don't need any carbs during the half marathon race. You have sufficient carbs in your muscles to likely run about 15-17 miles at half marathon pace before you'll bonk due to a lack of carbs. This is true for almost everyone for halfs. Now, this isn't to say you might not need some electrolytes. But again the needs of electrolytes for a race lasting 100 minutes is pretty minimal above the body's normal storage unless you're dealing with some extreme conditions. Here's an example data set:

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For my weight (160) and VO2max (64), I would need to run at 83% VO2max to deplete my carb storage in 13.4 miles. That would be a 1:20 half marathon for me (my PR is a 1:38). So this is to illustrate the limiting factor in me running a 1:20 is not my carb consumption but rather a bevy of other factors.

The "bonk" you encounter during your half was more likely caused by two other reasons:

1) Insufficient training of muscles for the endurance pace held during the half
2) Pace was too fast early in the half leading to a build up of fatigue by product in the muscles that the body wasn't able to clear quickly enough to maintain pace
 
ATTQOTD: No shorts for me. Tried once and hated them, though they were the loose kind and got bunched up in my crotch as I ran. I'm short with muscular thighs, so I stick with running skorts. I have three from Athleta that have zipper pockets in back and leg pockets in the shorts and are cute and work really well. They're technically made for tennis, I think. Don't have a Sparkle Skirt yet, but I'm dying to try them.
 
The "bonk" you encounter during your half was more likely caused by two other reasons:

1) Insufficient training of muscles for the endurance pace held during the half
2) Pace was too fast early in the half leading to a build up of fatigue by product in the muscles that the body wasn't able to clear quickly enough to maintain pace
I have experienced this type of "bonk" a few times in training. I simply lost my legs because I ran faster than I could based on my conditioning at the time. Once I experienced total muscular failure - could not even stand. The other times I was forced to walk for quite some time while my legs recovered, and even then my run was slow.
 
QOTD: Lets discuss running shorts. What do you like or dislike in a pair of running shorts? What are you looking for when you buy shorts?

ATTQOTD: As a tall, self conscious, newish (2 yrs) runner, I was apprehensive to wear running shorts. However, I am always hot when I'm running, so I decided to just go for it (and really after the first 5 minutes of running, my shorts are the last thing I'm thinking about). I've found I love & need the small zippered pocket for my key. For my first half marathon, I put my key in my armband and actually lost it at the end of the race when I took my phone out to turn off Strava. Spent a good 15 minutes looking for it, and somehow managed to find it. I prefer dark colors because they go with everything. And, after trying both I prefer the built in compression as opposed to the built in underwear.
 












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