The Running Thread - 2016

[disneydaydreamer33]

ATTQOTD: Reading all of these crazy weather stories is making me dread winter. As much as I complain about the hot days days we've been having lately, it's nothing compared to the misery that is "Winter in Utah." Last winter, while training for Princess, I was just too sick of the treadmill, so I ventured outside for an 11 miler in 15 degrees. My phone completely shut off because it was too cold and my legs (and butt especially!) were so numb. Oh, how I hate the cold!

 

[cavepig]

ATTQOTD: Reading all of these crazy weather stories is making me dread winter. As much as I complain about the hot days days we've been having lately, it's nothing compared to the misery that is "Winter in Utah." Last winter, while training for Princess, I was just too sick of the treadmill, so I ventured outside for an 11 miler in 15 degrees. My phone completely shut off because it was too cold and my legs (and butt especially!) were so numb. Oh, how I hate the cold!

Yep, I agree winter running sucks, I hate the cold too & will take heat anyday. I started running with hand warmer heat packs on my phone to help not die in the freezing temps.

 

[LSUlakes]

ATTQOTD: Reading all of these crazy weather stories is making me dread winter. As much as I complain about the hot days days we've been having lately, it's nothing compared to the misery that is "Winter in Utah." Last winter, while training for Princess, I was just too sick of the treadmill, so I ventured outside for an 11 miler in 15 degrees. My phone completely shut off because it was too cold and my legs (and butt especially!) were so numb. Oh, how I hate the cold!

I say bring on the cold! I cant wait until the first cold front comes down south.

 

[Slogger]

ATTQOTD: Reading all of these crazy weather stories is making me dread winter. ... I ventured outside for an 11 miler in 15 degrees. My phone completely shut off because it was too cold and my legs (and butt especially!) were so numb. Oh, how I hate the cold!

Totally forgot about how much fun winter can be with the phone shutting off when it's cold out. I was using mine for GPS, flashlight, and music and had to do without!

I ran a late afternoon 5k in Frederick Maryland a few years ago and you could see a weather event was moving through the area in the distance. About halfway through the run it hit us with heavy wind and rain and zero visibility for a couple of minutes. I went running on a night when heavy snow was supposed to start. Flurries at the beginning turned into a winter wonderland about an hour later. It was so quiet and peaceful I really didn't mind. (phone stopped working that night too, LOL)

 

[Dis5150]

I say bring on the cold! I cant wait until the first cold front comes down south.

Preach! I am tired of the heat/humidity and can't wait for the cooler weather!

 

[IamTrike]

I say bring on the cold! I cant wait until the first cold front comes down south.

I think cold is relative. I'm in NC so I enjoy when it get's "cold" here too. For the most part cold here is 20-40 degrees. That's still fine to run in you don't have to layer up too much. I've lived in Upstate NY, there cold was -20 ish. I would not want to run in that kind of cold.

 

[Chaitali]

I think the hardest thing for me is dealing with when the weather changes. I feel like I just finally got acclimated to the heat and I don't feel like dying any more when I run outside. Just in time for the weather to start getting cooler and I'll have to start acclimating to the cold in a couple months.

 

[DVCFan1994]

So happy I finally got a chance to run today. At my PTs suggestion, I went to a track so I could easily get in as much or as little as I felt able to and then be near my car to go home. It worked well because my kids had to be with me and they played soccer in the middle while I ran. My instructions were to warm up walking and then do some specific drills to get my body prepped. Then run a mile at zone 2, walk a half mile, repeat the drills and run another mile. Then cooldown. It worked well. Kids wanted to do the warmup with me so it was slow, but all total, 2 miles run and 2.5 walking and drills. I would say my hip/hamstring/glute felt tight or a little sore, but not painful or crampy like my last run 8 weeks ago after I strained it.

I will run again Friday, then I head to London. I hope to get at least two runs in there. Anyone familiar with the St. James park area of London? Based on where I'm staying, I'd likely run there if feasible.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I love winter runs up to about -10F - anything colder than that and I take the day off. I also don't run on ice, but don't mind snow at all. I run about 90 seconds/mile faster in the winter and every run feels almost effortless.

ETA - I don't even put an a shirt with sleeves until it drops below 40, and I stay in shorts until it drops below 20.

 

[ZellyB]

Bring on the winter runs, I say. But, I agree it's easier for me to say that since we don't get crazy cold here generally.

 

[Slogger]

I love winter runs up to about -10F - anything colder than that and I take the day off. I also don't run on ice, but don't mind snow at all. I run about 90 seconds/mile faster in the winter and every run feels almost effortless.

Cooler air is my preference as well. Only 20 weeks until the start of Winter....it's practically here!!!!

 

[keahgirl8]

I hear you loud and clear. It is so frustrating. I hope you get better soon and get back to it!


I posted from the table as I was at the doctor yesterday and then the doctor came in and delivered the good news. Everything went great in the surgery and I am healing very well. I can expect to be off my feet up to 8 weeks. Wait, what? I thought it was 3-6 weeks? No, it will be 6-8 weeks she said. Apparently the 3-6 weeks applied to the one tendon repair and I tore them both. My incisions needs to close before I can put any weight on my foot. She told me the way to speed up the process is to stay off my feet as much as possible to keep the swelling down and eat a lot of protein. I can handle the protein thing no problem. Staying off my feet as much as possible means no working out? So, I will give it another week and then I may start my workouts then which is why I said try to get in as many workouts as I can. I have about a 2" incision on the top of my foot and about a 4" incision on the side going around my ankle bone. And I thought I was getting about 2 stitches from this whole thing. The best part is when she took my foot and stretched it back toward my shin without warning. That felt pretty good. I didn't want to vomit from the pain or anything. They had to do it even more when putting the cast on and the cast guy says, "They are supposed to tell you to take your pain killers before you come in" to which I respond, "Yeah, well they didn't." And he says, "They never do, so you're going to hate me for the next couple of hours until the pain goes away." Wonderful!

OK, I vented again and hopefully provided some comedy relief as well.

Why are there so many of us passengers on the hip injury train? I would like to get off at the nearest stop please!

I'm glad you got some good news, even if it wasn't all of the news you wanted.

I enjoyed reading about everyone's goals for the month. I thought it was a good question to ask, for those with a plan and those who maybe haven't thought about it, to type it out and somehow feel accountable now since its on the internet. Good luck to everyone this month and I look forward to seeing how everything went for each of yall at the end of the month!.

QOTD: What are some interesting weather events you have witnessed while out for a run?

Nothing too crazy, because I try not to run in terrible weather and I don't live where it snows. For my first half, I was trying to run in every climate I could, so I could acclimate to running in all types of weather. You never know what will happen in Florida, and since I don't live there, I did the best I could. On the day of my first "dress rehearsal" for the 13.1, it rained. I mean RAINED. It was kind of like the rain Forrest Gump describes. Every type of rain from every which way. I never never been so soaked in all my life. It couldn't have been that cold, but I was so wet, I felt like I had pins and needles everywhere when I came back inside. That was a painful shower.

To me, there are two types of impressive (and neither is necessarily more impressive than the other). My basis for my opinion is the following.

1. I believe in perception of effort. The harder you run the faster you go. But everyone's 75% is equal to everyone else's 75% when relating perception of effort.
2. I believe that time spent running is an important factor, more so than mileage.
3. Mileage is a function of perceived effort x time. If you run faster (effort), or longer (time), then you increase your mileage.

Scenario 1

We have two people standing next to each other. I tell them both to run at 75% effort for 90 minutes. They both complete the workout.

Person A - 75% effort at 90 minutes
Person B - 75% effort at 90 minutes

Which is more impressive? Based on the information given, they are equal.

Person A ran 10 miles
Person B ran 5 miles

Which is more impressive? Based on the information given, Person A is more impressive. Person A's 75% effort is faster than Person B's 75% effort.

Scenario 2

We have two people standing next to each other. I tell them both to run at 75% effort for 13.1 miles. They both complete the workout.

Person C - 75% effort for 13.1 miles
Person D - 75% effort for 13.1 miles

Which is more impressive? Based on the information given, they are equal.

Person C finished in 1:45
Person D finished in 3:00

Which is more impressive? Based on the information given, Person D is more impressive. Person D ran at the same effort level as Person C, yet did it for 71% longer in time than Person C.

So, to me there are two kinds of impressive.

1. It's impressive to me that Galen can run at 75% effort and that equals a 5:00 min/mile. It's impressive because when I run at 75% effort it equals a 8:00 min/mile. Galen is faster than me at the same effort level.
2. It's impressive to me that Person D ran at 75% effort for 3 hours. It's impressive because when I run at 75% effort it equals 1:45. Person D is able to maintain the same effort level as me, but for 71% longer in time.

Hopefully this helps make sense of my idea. So when someone says I ran a 15:00 min/mile for a half marathon, but I gave it everything I got. I come away impressed. That person's perception of effort was the same as mine, but yet they maintained that effort for significantly longer than me.

Look at it one other way. When someone goes out and runs a marathon in 5:00, for me to match the same physical feat (same effort X time) I would have to run 40 miles instead of 26.2 miles. I don't believe I could run 40 miles in 5:00.

So I come away impressed by anyone that's running no matter what. Everyone one of you impresses me!

Excellent way to describe it! Honestly, I'm impressed with anyone who laces up and gets out there. All of it is an accomplishment!

 

[Miranda]

I have run outside down to about 15-20F, and my phone did shut off at that temp even though it was in the pocket of my NB running jacket that has wind panels on the body. I don't know if it has an inside pocket, I'll have to try it in there if it does. My phone is just emergency and music for me on runs since I have my Garmin for timing. I have had issues with my Garmin though, not shutting off but when it is very cold, even with gloves and layers on, my wrists always seem to get cold, and I can't feel the vibration alerts anymore for my intervals.

 

[*DisneyDreamer]

I'm definitely in the prefer cold weather camp too. I cannot wait for fall.

 

[LSUlakes]

So, one of my goals this month is to run early in the mornings, and to make that successful I have to do so nearly everyday to make it a habit. Well, the first two days on the month I did not even hear my alarm going off. Today I did and it took me a little while from when the first alarm went off at 4:00AM and by the time I started my run it was 4:41 AM. Tomorrows goal is to get out the door a little earlier and try to get a full 10 miles in. The early wake up should at least help me fall asleep earlier tonight. I'll report back tomorrow with how it went. lol

I love winter runs up to about -10F - anything colder than that and I take the day off. I also don't run on ice, but don't mind snow at all. I run about 90 seconds/mile faster in the winter and every run feels almost effortless.

ETA - I don't even put an a shirt with sleeves until it drops below 40, and I stay in shorts until it drops below 20.

Ill run a race in a singlet in the 30's, but I run nearly all my runs in "normal" running shirts. Like you, I think around 20 is the point where long sleeves would be considered. Now my hands are a different story, i'll bust out the cheap cotton gloves you can get at an expo for like $1.50 a pair all day. Nothing worse than your hands being cold.

Cooler air is my preference as well. Only 20 weeks until the start of Winter....it's practically here!!!!

Your getting a little ahead here, we are just asking for a cool front in the fall or late summer. I got a good laugh out of you post, so I wanted to post something, but I think the sarcasm in my comments probably do not translate into text.

 

[jele30]

Been following this thread for a while (wanted to get caught up before posting and wanted to make sure I stuck with it) so finally chiming in. I took a long hiatius from running, but been doing C25K to keep me in check (I have a habit of starting to run too fast, too much distance, too soon). I am registered to run the Princess 5k with my family in Feb and the 10k myself. This thread has been very inspiring and so far I'm on track to complete the last two weeks of the C25K app. My plan is to start the 10k app after that.

ATQOTD: Nothing really recent, but many years ago in high school one of our cross country races turned into a mud run. Shoes were getting stuck and everyone was having a great time. It made for an interesting bus ride home, but thankfully it was one of the few local ones we had.

 

[MommaoffherRocker]

ATTQOTD: I haven't seen anything too exciting while running. Mostly it's lightening because that's what happens every afternoon here. Tonight I had to wait for a storm to pass and when I went out to run there was a rainbow, I thought it was funny because of today's question.


I cannot believe some of you guys run in such cold! I am a big baby, I think 50 is freezing. I'm sure I would run in it if I had to but boy am I glad I don't!

 

[NeverLand16]

What a treat to see on your run.

 

[ebradley23]

MB mini this year takes place on 10/23 which might be cutting it close with my marathon a few weeks later. It's an event that I have always wanted to try.

Hershey Half is 10/16 and we discussed doing it this year. The medal looks like a big Hershey kiss and they give you chocolate during the run and 2 tickets to HersheyPark for each HM entry. What's not to like? We signed up for it a few years ago but cancelled when our dog got very sick the day before and we spent the entire weekend at the emergency vet clinic. It's on my to-do list. Maybe this year.......

Okay, so it's the first Sunday in Oct, but Crawlin Crab is supposed to be really good. Then you would have plenty of time to recover before your marathon.

 

[ebradley23]

ATTQOTD: Craziest weather was this year's Monument Avenue 10k We had a super cold front come down which made the temps pretty miserable (20's). It started out sunny then went to overcast. Right when we hit mile 4 (I was running with a group pushing a disabled athlete) it started snowing for a few minutes. I had just finished telling my teammates that if it was going to be that cold the least it could do was snow so we had a story. We all screamed like teenage girls at a Justin Beiber show, because of the timing. Not everyone on the course saw snow either. It was a very small area that actually got snowflakes, and we happened to be in it. My husband had no clue it had snowed while he was waiting for me at the finish line.