The really BIG problem with dinner on the Wish Class ships

How about a 4th dining venue for those that don’t want all of the “noise” from the shows and want a quieter and quicker dinner? It would be like the Cabanas dinner without the salad bar. A mix of things on the current menus. Open seating like breakfast/lunch in the dining rooms. Yeah, it will never happen but a girl can dream…...
 
Do you think it might have been your serving team and not the ship?
This is true for sure. However our main server had been with DCL for 14 years . The head server was leaving in a month to be a head server on the Adventure. Not sure about our assistant as we saw twice on a 4 night cruise. I guess I would have expected DCL vets to be more personable and attentive to service like we had come to expect with DCL
 
This is true for sure. However our main server had been with DCL for 14 years . The head server was leaving in a month to be a head server on the Adventure. Not sure about our assistant as we saw twice on a 4 night cruise. I guess I would have expected DCL vets to be more personable and attentive to service like we had come to expect with DCL

Unfortunately, a dip in service levels could be a byproduct of the fleet expanding so much. I'm sure they are constantly onboarding (see what i did there? ;)) new employees...err...cast members to staff the dining rooms and staterooms, etc. So the "seasoned" cast member becomes harder and harder to come by. Also, if the rumors are true that Virgin Voyages regularly poaches DCL cast members, it makes it even that much worse.
 
How about a 4th dining venue for those that don’t want all of the “noise” from the shows and want a quieter and quicker dinner? It would be like the Cabanas dinner without the salad bar. A mix of things on the current menus. Open seating like breakfast/lunch in the dining rooms. Yeah, it will never happen but a girl can dream…...
Yeah just reopen the buffet like before COVID when it was transformed at night into a sit down resturants... that seemed to be used for training. Now the train seems to be done in the main resturants, and with their new ships and turn over rate... that seems to be much to common now.

Last time we went to Cabanas for dinner, it was only 1/6 open for seating and the limited menu was great.... and it was a normal meal that only took an hour.
 

Ya, maybe Disney shutting down the buffet for dinner could be a big part of the problems we see now. Do they actually lack the number of crew to staff it now, or is it really a cost cutter in disguise?
 
How about a 4th dining venue for those that don’t want all of the “noise” from the shows and want a quieter and quicker dinner? It would be like the Cabanas dinner without the salad bar. A mix of things on the current menus. Open seating like breakfast/lunch in the dining rooms. Yeah, it will never happen but a girl can dream…...
I wish they would do this! Dinner on DCL is actually a big negative for us and a reason why we have looked at other lines. I don’t like having a set dinner time every night, I don’t like maybe sharing a table with strangers, and I don’t like how the dining rooms are so crowded. Some times you just want to have a quick dinner at 6 pm (that’s not pizza or burgers) because that’s when you are hungry and not have to wait until 815 for a 90 minute dinner.
 
I wish they would do this! Dinner on DCL is actually a big negative for us and a reason why we have looked at other lines. I don’t like having a set dinner time every night, I don’t like maybe sharing a table with strangers, and I don’t like how the dining rooms are so crowded. Some times you just want to have a quick dinner at 6 pm (that’s not pizza or burgers) because that’s when you are hungry and not have to wait until 815 for a 90 minute dinner.
If I've said it once I've said it a million times, but the fact my wife and I hate dinner shows and would prefer at least one non-MDR dinner option other than a single pool deck option is why we've been exploring other cruise lines. I wish Disney had stuck with a single tame dinner show the way they used to have, instead of shoving a ton of noisy ones down our throat
 
If I've said it once I've said it a million times, but the fact my wife and I hate dinner shows and would prefer at least one non-MDR dinner option other than a single pool deck option is why we've been exploring other cruise lines. I wish Disney had stuck with a single tame dinner show the way they used to have, instead of shoving a ton of noisy ones down our throat
Yes! It was so nice on our non DCL cruise this past summer to show up to dinner when we wanted and get a table to ourselves with a view of the water and not have serviced stopped for awhile while some show was going on.
 
If I've said it once I've said it a million times, but the fact my wife and I hate dinner shows and would prefer at least one non-MDR dinner option other than a single pool deck option is why we've been exploring other cruise lines. I wish Disney had stuck with a single tame dinner show the way they used to have, instead of shoving a ton of noisy ones down our throat
r.e. bold -- if value for $$$ spent is important and *Disney pixiedust:* takes a back seat to true relaxation, venturing out is wise.

Yes! It was so nice on our non DCL cruise this past summer to show up to dinner when we wanted and get a table to ourselves with a view of the water and not have serviced stopped for awhile while some show was going on.

r.e. bold - Been there and done that since 2019 on our other Cruise Line and have saved $$$$$ = more cruises below DCL pricing with greater service.
 
If I've said it once I've said it a million times, but the fact my wife and I hate dinner shows and would prefer at least one non-MDR dinner option other than a single pool deck option is why we've been exploring other cruise lines. I wish Disney had stuck with a single tame dinner show the way they used to have, instead of shoving a ton of noisy ones down our throat
There is both palos and enchante. Excellent food and service. Why are people pretending these restaurants dont exist.
 
There is both palos and enchante. Excellent food and service. Why are people pretending these restaurants dont exist.
Oh please. Palo and Enchante are not what the poster is talking about and you know it. Let me point out some differences…

Palo and Enchante are an extra cost (a significant cost). They have a dress code. They are age restricted. You need a reservation, you can’t decide that you don’t want to wait for your 815 dinner and just randomly go over to Enchante at 6 and eat when you want. They are also long meals, not a quick sit down 45 minute option.

Hope that helps.
 
There is both palos and enchante. Excellent food and service. Why are people pretending these restaurants dont exist.
I don't think anyone's pretending they don't exist. I think people know Palo and Remy/Enchante are not substitutes for main dining. They're an added cost, can be hard to get reservations for, you can't eat there every night, and they are specific cuisines (that may or may not appeal to everyone).
 
I don't think anyone's pretending they don't exist. I think people know Palo and Remy/Enchante are not substitutes for main dining. They're an added cost, can be hard to get reservations for, you can't eat there every night, and they are specific cuisines (that may or may not appeal to everyone).
They are a substitute for the one out of 3 night you get the dinner show. No one said every night. Palos is easy to get at night. And the added cost is tiny compared to the cost of the cruise and cost of equivalent dinner on land. On most other cruises a lot of the restaurants are added costs. This isnt just a disney thing.

You cant say there are no extra restaurants for those who dont like the dinner show and also dont want takeaway food on the top deck when there is literally the perfect solution. In fact there is two of them.
 
Oh please. Palo and Enchante are not what the poster is talking about and you know it. Let me point out some differences…

Palo and Enchante are an extra cost (a significant cost). They have a dress code. They are age restricted. You need a reservation, you can’t decide that you don’t want to wait for your 815 dinner and just randomly go over to Enchante at 6 and eat when you want. They are also long meals, not a quick sit down 45 minute option.

Hope that helps.
If you think they are a significant cost then how do you even afford a disney cruise? They are so cheap compared to anything on land even remotely equivalent. And make a reservation just like anywhere else in this world. And if you want a quick meal with kids then go for the food on the top deck. Everyone is catered for on this ship. Quick junk food perfect for kids then top deck, moderate family restaurant then main dining rooms or quality food then one of two fine dining restaurants. Everyone is catered for. The complaints here are just ridiculous.
 
If you think they are a significant cost then how do you even afford a disney cruise? They are so cheap compared to anything on land even remotely equivalent. And make a reservation just like anywhere else in this world. And if you want a quick meal with kids then go for the food on the top deck. Everyone is catered for on this ship. Quick junk food perfect for kids then top deck, moderate family restaurant then main dining rooms or quality food then one of two fine dining restaurants. Everyone is catered for. The complaints here are just ridiculous.
Paying another 50-100+ a person (then adding in gratuity) for multiple dinners adds up for people that don’t want to do MDR every night. On a 7 night Treasure cruise you have some form of show 4/7 nights (2 in Coco and 2 in Marvel). Can you even book that many reservations for dinner at those restaurants, or is it limited?

Not everyone wants “quick junk food” for their kids nor do all kids want that.

You have luck getting a Palo or an Enchante dinner reservation the day of if you decide MDR is not what you want that evening? Have you had luck walking up with no reservation?

Thanks for your concerns about my personal finances, I can afford a Disney cruise😉 Just because I can afford it doesn’t mean I want to go throwing extra money at a bunch of extra dinners.
 
If you think they are a significant cost then how do you even afford a disney cruise? They are so cheap compared to anything on land even remotely equivalent. And make a reservation just like anywhere else in this world. And if you want a quick meal with kids then go for the food on the top deck. Everyone is catered for on this ship. Quick junk food perfect for kids then top deck, moderate family restaurant then main dining rooms or quality food then one of two fine dining restaurants. Everyone is catered for. The complaints here are just ridiculous.
Enchante/Remy is minimum $135 a person. I would not call that "cheap."

I will agree that Palo is much more financially accessible, and I think it's a good value for what you get (especially compared to restaurants where I live in Chicago).
 
Enchante/Remy is minimum $135 a person. I would not call that "cheap."

I will agree that Palo is much more financially accessible, and I think it's a good value for what you get (especially compared to restaurants where I live in Chicago).
Ahhh, Giordano's... what I wouldn't do for really good pizza on the ships
 
Paying another 50-100+ a person (then adding in gratuity) for multiple dinners adds up for people that don’t want to do MDR every night. On a 7 night Treasure cruise you have some form of show 4/7 nights (2 in Coco and 2 in Marvel). Can you even book that many reservations for dinner at those restaurants, or is it limited?

Not everyone wants “quick junk food” for their kids nor do all kids want that.

You have luck getting a Palo or an Enchante dinner reservation the day of if you decide MDR is not what you want that evening? Have you had luck walking up with no reservation?

Thanks for your concerns about my personal finances, I can afford a Disney cruise😉 Just because I can afford it doesn’t mean I want to go throwing extra money at a bunch of extra dinners.
Exactly! Preach!
 

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