The REAL Longest Thread In Dis History Part 5

[FHS_chick_2005]

AWWW, what a shame. You are being torn in every direction. Apparently your parents have health problems (I'm gathering) and they depend on you to help them, is that correct? So naturally because you are such a sweet girl you don't want to desert your parents. Have they given you their blessings to move in with Josh and for them to go on their own? If they have you need to accept that gracefully and not feel guilty. You said it's only an hour & 45 mins away so you could be there easily any time they need you.

On the other hand, do you see Josh every night? If not, perhaps you can stay with your parents and run back and forth to see him though I know gas prices there must be insane. Could he meet you half way, and I mean by this that one weekend he come to your place, another you go to his? What about your job?Will Lowes transfer you to one there?

Why are your parents moving? Are they going to be in the house that your great grandpa used to live? Is this going to be upsetting? If you were very close to him maybe it would be comforting?

Are you and Josh making wedding plans for the future? He needs to move forward if he is serious. You eed to know for sure where things stands before you make a decision.

my parents are both disabled.. thats why its hard on me.. they are moving into where my great grandpa lived and I think that is going to be hard to... I remember when we went up there after he passed away it was the hardest thing because he always used to met us at the porch or be coming out the door when we got there and he wasnt there.. and i think living there would be to hard...but its going to be easier on my parents because our rent for this house is $1300 a month.. then you gotta think water, garbage, electricity... in clearlake the trailer is paid for.. they would pay about $400 a month for space rent, garbae, and water. then they just have to get electricity and cable... but still it will cut the bill by SOOOO much...
I dont want to do the whole running back and forth and if I were to move my dad said he would help with my car pymnt and I could work a part time job...
ive run by moving in with Josh to my parents and they dont totally like the idea... not really of me living with Josh but of me moving in with his parents too..
we have been talking about getting married but we really dont have the money for a wedding and stuff..
recently I have barely been seeing Josh.. and it has been effecting our relationship.. and at the same time he has been being a jerk.. sending me totally mixed signals.. like one day hes all pissed because he misses me and wants to spend time together so like the next day I cancel what I am doing to be with him and he pulls the your being too needy why dont you give me some space bull...

 

[Trentmom]

So sorry Steph to hear all of this..

(((((((((((((((Steph))))))))))))))))))))

Hopefully you can all work this out so you can all be okay and happy.

Sounds like butthead is just nervous as now marriage might be closer than he though and he is getting cold feet, which is normal for al lot of guys...

 

[FHS_chick_2005]

So sorry Steph to hear all of this..

(((((((((((((((Steph))))))))))))))))))))

Hopefully you can all work this out so you can all be okay and happy.

Sounds like butthead is just nervous as now marriage might be closer than he though and he is getting cold feet, which is normal for al lot of guys...

maybe..

 

[Disneymommom]

Good night Steph. I hope you can relax without thinking and get some rest tonight.

 

[FHS_chick_2005]

Good night Steph. I hope you can relax without thinking and get some rest tonight.

good night mama! ill talk to you later..

 

[Trentmom]

Where are all my chicas at???

Miss ya guys!!!

Steph...how are you doing today? I hope you were able to sleep better.

Cuz...Hope you are having a nice day at work...

Mom...I guess you are being productive..

Marshay...I am going to guess you are doing an activity with your dd

Parla...i guess you still don't feel well...

Heather....How ya doing??

 

[Trentmom]

Marshay, can you explain to me the renting DVC points? So confused.

I thought it would be neat to do that the next time we are able to go...in abot 2 yrs.or 3 years

For example.......say we wanted to go for a week in December and you had extra points...would we send you the money and you make the reservations with Disney.?

Or do we contact Disney and let them know we are using your DVC that particular week?

The whole thing is so confusing...would love to stay at a nice resort in the future and thought this way might be cheaper, but not sure...


Thanks for any explantion you can give...

 

[Marshay]

Marshay, can you explain to me the renting DVC points? So confused.

I thought it would be neat to do that the next time we are able to go...in abot 2 yrs.or 3 years

For example.......say we wanted to go for a week in December and you had extra points...would we send you the money and you make the reservations with Disney.?

Or do we contact Disney and let them know we are using your DVC that particular week?

The whole thing is so confusing...would love to stay at a nice resort in the future and thought this way might be cheaper, but not sure...


Thanks for any explantion you can give...

To stay at a DVC when you are not a member you can:

1) Call Disney and pay cash directly through them. It is more expensive but you work directly with them.
2) Find someone you know (or go to the Rent/Trade board on DIS) and rent points from them. This is less expensive (somewhere between $10-14/pt but may be less/more depending on when/who/where) but you work directly with the person and not Disney. In fact, Disney will not talk to you at all until you actually check in. So you need to make sure you use a reputable person.

In honor of making this thread the longest, I'll post more in addl posts.

 

[Marshay]

So let's say you want to stay 7 nights in September (cheapest season). Here are some choices at $10/pt (I'll just pick $10 but the price will vary. Check out the DIS boards. The prob is there are more people wanting to rent pts than there are pts available...)

Options
Beach Club Studio
104 pts = $1,040

Beach Club 1 BR
200 pts = $2,000

Animal Kingdom Studio (Value room)
72 pts = $720

Animal Kingdom 1BR (Savannah room)
205 pts = $2,050

So you see depending on your hotel, your view and your type of room (Studio, 1BR, 2BR) the prices can really be different.

But notice the Animal Kingdom studio value (ie. parking lot or garden view) is only $720 for week!!! That's only $102/night for a deluxe room -- some moderates room cost more than that and now you're getting a kitchenette, too!

 

[Marshay]

sorry, will step back down from my soapbox -- you can tell I love, love, love DVC and haven't even had my first trip yet!

 

[Marshay]

Ok, so let's say I have extra points that I can't use b/c we are expecting our 2nd baby and I'd rather have the $$ than bank those points for another year.

I put the word out verbally and on the DIS boards that I have "104 pts, expiring Nov 30, 2008". Then I get 50 million emails but pick you.

 

[Marshay]

You say, 'hey, i'd like to stay at a DVC in Sept for about a week.' I say great, I have 104 pts which is exactly one week at BC in a studio. I'll sell to you for $10 pt.

You say great.

I send you some paperwork and ask for a deposit. Then I contact Disney and make arrangements letting them know that I have a "friend" staying. Once I get a confirmation #, I let you know and you owe me the rest of the $. I send the paperwork to you. You go on your trip and have fun.

 

[Marshay]

Things to be wary of: (the "you" and "me" would never do this)

1) you give a deposit but I never book the room...I only tell you I do. Now you are out the deposit $$
2) you pay the full amount, I give you a confirmation letter from Disney, but then after I take your $$ and before the vacation, I cancel the ressie. Now you are out the full $$ and no vacation.
3) you give a deposit, I book the room and send you confirmation. Then you cancel. I have your deposit but now I lose all my pts if I can't resell them to someone else or go myself. (once you make a ressie, you have to use those pts before they expire).
4) you DH invites friends over and they trash the room with $2K in repairs. I'm responsible for that.
5) you pay your money and instead of your 1BR at Beach Club, I booked you a studio value animal kingdom room instead. So you're not getting what you thought you were.

 

[Marshay]

So because you are dealing with an individual person, it can be either the best and cheapest trip you ever had for the deluxe resort you are getting or the disastrous vacation b/c you ended up renting from a crook.

 

[Marshay]

My advice would be that prior to even thinking of making a trip, go spend time in the DVC section threads and get to know the people. See if you like how they respond to posts, etc. Make sure you are not just getting someone who rents/trades but is an active member of the DIS boards.

 

[Marshay]

Here is the info from Mousesavers on renting points for DVC:

Renting Disney Vacation Club (DVC) points is a little-known way to stay in a deluxe-level Disney resort for much less. DVC members own timeshare "points" that they can use for stays at the five DVC resorts at Walt Disney World: Saratoga Springs, Beach Club Villas, Villas at Wilderness Lodge, Boardwalk Villas and Old Key West. Soon there will be a sixth DVC resort at Disney World, Animal Kingdom Villas. (There are also DVC resorts at Hilton Head Island, South Carolina and Vero Beach, Florida.) Sometimes DVC members are unable to use the points before they expire, so they will "rent" them to others.

Disney allows the general public to book DVC units at very high rates through its regular resort reservations system, when available. Renting points is a much better deal. For instance, a five-night stay (Sunday through Thursday) in a Villas at Wilderness Lodge studio in May 2007 will "cost" the DVC member 65 points. At the typical rate of $10-$12 a point, you could rent his points for $650-$780 and enjoy a stay that would cost over $1945 (including tax) if booked directly through Disney at 2007 rack rates. (For comparison, a standard room at Wilderness Lodge -- which would not include the mini-fridge and microwave you get with a studio -- would cost $1477 with tax if booked with Disney directly for May 2007.)

 

[Marshay]

Important Things to Know About Renting DVC Points

Renting points means you pay the DVC member directly (often by giving him a one-night deposit up front and paying the balance 30 days before the trip, though arrangements vary widely) and he makes a reservation in your name. The transaction requires trust on both sides.

I have rented points on four occasions and in each case had no problems at all. In fact, for years I had never heard of anyone being ripped off in a DVC rental situation, but in 2006 I heard of some instances in which renters were the victims of fraud.

If you are renting, be very careful!

Ask for references and check the references.

Get the owner's full name, address and phone number before sending any payment. To the extent possible, confirm that the information is valid. (For instance, call and talk with the owner. Also, consider going to Google and typing in the person's name and contact info to see if you find any mentions that will help you confirm the owner's identity.)

Confirm that the person is a DVC owner by running a search at the Florida Comptroller's Office web site.

NEVER pay a total stranger by using a "cash equivalent" such as Western Union or money order. I also don't recommend paying by check (especially cashier's check). The safest way to pay is to use a credit card. (That isn't difficult. Members of the public can pay and receive payments by credit card through PayPal.) Personally, credit card payment is the only method I would ever agree to use, because it is the only method that provides you with some protection against fraud.

There should be a written contract or letter of agreement, signed by both of you, spelling out exactly what the rental will cost, when payment is due, dates of the stay, etc.

Make sure the owner sends you the confirmation from Disney. Be aware that Disney Vacation Club will not speak with renters or give them any information. Only DVC owners can speak with DVC about reservations.

If something sounds "off," don't proceed. It's not worth taking the risk.

 

[Marshay]

DVC reservations are not as "forgiving" as hotel reservations. Cancellation must take place 30 days or more in advance, so you have to be very sure about your dates. Also, once the owner makes a reservation with points, they are subject to complex rules and may not be easily redeposited in the owner's account. That's the risk the owner is taking with you.

If you're considering a rental, you'll need to do some research to learn how the point system works. The points needed for a stay vary tremendously depending on the season. Weekend nights "cost" about twice as many points as weekdays, so sometimes it's better to book Friday and Saturday nights directly with Disney and rent points for Sunday through Thursday only. (Do the calculations both ways -- this varies.) To figure out how many points your stay would require, you can consult Tagrel.com's DVC Point Charts and/or DVC Point Calculator.

When you rent points, you are usually treated like a DVC owner during your stay. Technically renters are not supposed to be entitled to certain DVC owner benefits, while guests of the owner who paid no compensation are entitled to the benefits. Based on my experience and the experiences reported by dozens of other renters, Disney just assumes you are a guest of the owner, so chances are close to 100% that your room key will say "DVC Member" on it. This is nice because it gives you access to the perks DVC members enjoy, which include free valet parking at the resort, certain discounts on restaurants, etc.

DVC rentals offer less-frequent maid service than paying cash directly to Disney for the same unit. When renting from a DVC member, you get the usual DVC maid service, which includes a "trash and towels" service (no cleaning) on the fourth day of your stay and a "full service" cleaning on the eighth day. You can opt to pay extra for more frequent service.

 

[Marshay]

How to Rent Points or Buy DVC Vacations From Owners

Bear in mind that there is no guarantee that the dates and/or resorts you want will be available. You'll have to find a DVC member who is interested in renting points and willing to check your dates. A member can reserve a unit in his "home" resort up to 11 months in advance and at any other DVC resort up to 7 months in advance.



**************** has a Rent/Trade/Transfer board where you may find a DVC member willing to rent out points. This is part of a very friendly discussion forum associated with an excellent site for DVC information.



Other options:

DIS Boards DVC rent/trade board. Be sure to read the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) post on that board before trying a rental. I recommend renting only from people who have participated on the DIS Boards for over a year and who have made a significant number of posts about general subjects (not just offers to rent).

Redweek.com is a major site listing all sorts of timeshare rentals. You can look at general lists of available rentals without charge, but to see any specifics or learn how to contact the owners, you'll have to pay $10 for a 6-month site membership. Thanks to Kent and Joyce A for the suggestion.

I personally would not rent DVC points from eBay listings. I'm sure there are some legitimate owners offering rentals there, but unfortunately in my experience, eBay is rife with fraud these days.

 

[Marshay]

So do I get an A+ for this "DVC Term Paper"?