The Official Spring/Spring Advantage 2010 Thread!

[foreverdreaming]

Haha well PM me and we'll complain and support eachother. haha.

I just got a duplicate rejection e-mail today. I know that it's just a glitch in the system but it feels like someone over there is just laughing at me now. When I saw the email that said "Regarding your Interview Status" I thought they changed their minds or something. At least I can almost laugh at it now.

Oh, just wait...I'm sure you'll be getting one in the mail too. I got a rejection email a couple of weeks ago and got a rejection letter in the mail this week. Like they really needed to remind me again

I also emailed/called them to ask about why I was rejected, and I didn't think that they were helpful at all. I applied to nearly every role possible. She didn't give me any specific explanation for why I was rejected...Just told me that the phone interview is your one chance to shine.

It hurts to think about Disney now, which is really difficult when you're someone who talks about Disney non-stop.

 

[CursedCarolers]

Oh, just wait...I'm sure you'll be getting one in the mail too. I got a rejection email a couple of weeks ago and got a rejection letter in the mail this week. Like they really needed to remind me again

I also emailed/called them to ask about why I was rejected, and I didn't think that they were helpful at all. I applied to nearly every role possible. She didn't give me any specific explanation for why I was rejected...Just told me that the phone interview is your one chance to shine.

It hurts to think about Disney now, which is really difficult when you're someone who talks about Disney non-stop.

What're they doing? Holding spots for people who apply at the last minute?

Yeah, when I called they wouldn't say that I said anything wrong in my interview. Just that I didn't give long enough answers.

I think about Disney (The Muppets and Star Wars included) and the Mets pretty much all the time. With the Mets losing and Disney rejecting me I have no happy place to dream about anymore. I know how you feel.

I've turned this in the Spring/Spring Advantage rejection thread. haha. Sorry to those who are actually going. and those who are still waiting to hear back. Good luck and please appreciate fully what it is to be accepted.

 

[Toffy]

Umm Sweetie, Disney World was designed by Walt himself just like DL was AND he made things bigger and better at WDW because he couldn't at DL.

Yes, it was ORIGINALLY designed by Walt, but then the man died God rest his soul and Roy and all of WED decided to cheap out on everything and make MK a cheapo copy of DL (bigger doesn't always mean better), plus they decided they couldn't do Epcot and failed to achieve Walt's dying wish and turned it into a theme park (not that Epcot sucks or anything, it's a great park, but it's still an insult to Walt's memory).

Plus all of DL including its parking lot can fit into MK's parking lot...

Honey, since when has bigger been better? Disneyland is better in part because of how much smaller it is. There is SO much more charm and magic there than at MK.

Also if you do the DL CP you have to join the union and pay union dues on top of 600 dollars per month for the housing... it costs way more
personally, i think WDW is better because there is a lot more to experience...

Well yes, the CP is pretty cruddy out there, but the point is is that Carolers now has the opportunity to go to the better resort.

But WDW was Walt's idea too and in general has MUCH more attractions.

Again, Walt's version of WDW is MUCH different than what actually got built, Roy and WED cheaped out on everything. Plus, DCA also has more attractions in it than most of the WDW parks.

WDW has Epcot and Animal Kingdom, DL has CA. Which do you think Walt would not have approved of? (That's a matter of debate unto it's self though.)

Walt would've cried over Epcot (again, his DYING wish was to have his city of tomorrow built, but alas, it "couldn't be done" and so it turned into a way to make money), and it would probably be a toss up between DCA and AK. (DCA is a FANTASTIC park, and after the renovations it's gonna be one of the best ever)

Further, it will cost over 700 dollars just to start the program. It's against logic to pay so much just to get a job. Living 2 miles away from the property is a lot different living on the property. And using public transportation is different from using Disney's transportation (though I've heard both can be miserable.)

Yes indeed, that is another reason why I myself am not doing the program, not to mention the partying that takes place in the apartments... I really don't blame ya there

I have been to Disneyland. Granted it was only once about 8 years ago, but I remember 4 rides breaking down. 2 of which I had to be evacuated from. I've never been evacuated from a WDW ride. I know it happens, but I've been to WDW almost 10 times and never had it happen to me.

The reason why that happened: You went there 8 years ago when Disneyland was under the rule of one of the worst presidents in it's history, and it was truly a dark age for DLR. Trust me, much different now, and boy I'm sorry you had to endure that my friend

And back to my original problem which stirred up this debate: The area surrounding. One of the reasons that Walt went and bought all that land in FL is because he felt he made a mistake by not purchasing the land around DL. As soon as DL became successful, people snapped up all the surrounding locations and put up cheap shops to profit off of his success.

See this is where I COMPLETELY disagree with Walt (contrary to popular belief, Walt isn't God ). IMO it is SO much more amazing to be in the middle of a city, and then BAM! Magic! First of all, being in the LA area, the showbiz capital of the world (love you too NYC), the crisp excitement of it is already in the air, and to slowly see the Matterhorn join the skyline as you're driving down the 5 freeway is absolutely AMAZING to see. And within the last 10 years, Disney has gained control over the surrounding area (collectively dubbed the "Anaheim Resort"), and have now controlled all the tackiness of the area and completely regulated all the signage to a uniform look. And hey, just like how at Disneyland the area right before you enter looks like LA with nothing but buildings, it's not much better in Orlando, because it too doesn't really change on your way to the park: Nothing but trees!

WDW is what Walt wanted.

Again: Apart from the trees, not it isn't. It was going to be COMPLETELY different before he died and then Roy and WED had to screw it all up and copy Disneyland and decide Epcot's name would just remain since it's catchy.

He never stepped foot in the actual parks but that doesn't mean his footprint is not there.

Well, if you wanna get technical, he DID leave a physical footprint when he visited the site, but back to the metaphorical argument rofl... Technically, I will count ANY of the other 4 DL rip offs around the world as a footprint or an echo, but they still ain't his baby

And finally I just have to say yes, I am VERY excited to do the WDW CP, I swear, but I just got defensive when Walt's park got shafted

 

[Salukfan]

What're they doing? Holding spots for people who apply at the last minute?

You know, I'm wondering about that. Now that they're holding spots for people auditioning for Entertainment, rather than not making a guarantee about placement should they not pass the audition, doesn't that limit the number of positions available right now? Depending on how many people will audition this semester/how many are chosen, there may be a wave of additional spots toward the end of the audition season. I've had friends who were initially declined for the program, then given an acceptance at a later date. Mind you, this was for the Alumni program, but still, it happens.

Just a thought.

 

[sosmember]

Toffy- First off, just sharing my opinion so please don't take anything I say personally. I will say that I agree with you that the 3 international DL are without a doubt little more than profit machines. As we have seen here on these boards many times they often fall short on even the simplest qualities that make a park a Disney park. Heck, Tokyo DL isn't even wholly owned be the Disney Corporation. However, IMHO the DL resort in CA and the WDW resort as a whole are on equal terms. One is certainly not "better" or "more magical" than the other. Each resort has unique qualities that reach out to different people. Just because you (collective you) prefer one over the other does not mean it is better. Also, WDW and specifically The Magic Kingdom were by no means "built on the cheap." At the time, the MK was one of the most complex single site construction projects ever attempted. Also, it isn't as though Walt had sat down for an hour one day and drafted the MK on a cocktail napkin. He worked on the plans for several years before he died. After Walt's death, Roy Disney worked with some of the best names in their respective industries to complete the last major project Walt ever started. Lillian Disney herself said Walt would have approved of the end result, but what did she know, she was only married to him for 41 years.

Now, when it comes to Epcot (EPCOT Center, EPCOT) I must say that while I have always loved the theme park, I once felt somewhat like you do in that it wasn't what Walt had envisioned. However, after much thought and A LOT of research, I realized something. Walt was an amazing dreamer, and an even better business man. On his deathbed, Walt was more than aware that without his involvement in the EPCOT project there was no one man or organization (even Disney) that was marketable enough to sell it to the investors. Even with Walt EPCOT was a long shot. Disney management knew this as well and knew that the only way to preserve that dream in some capacity was to drastically scale it down and convert it from a functioning city into something an entertainment company was more qualified to implement. EPCOT was to be a large scale showcase for the latest technologies blending with people's everyday lives. EPCOT Center and Epcot is a small scale world's fair type of showcase of the same thing. EPCOT Center was/is a tribute to Walt's Dream, not an insult. I believe that there was no doubt in Walt's mind that if he died his plan would be scrapped. I think he would be very pleased to see that the company he founded did what they could to showcase the key elements of his dream.

Also, in regards to DCA. The concept of the park is dumbfounding. A tribute park to the state the park is located in mixed with the fact that it is exactly the type of park Walt built DL to get away from (talk about an insult/slap in the face) begs the question, why? Then you see the $600 million price tag and realize the imagineers were never given much to work with. I do agree though that the park will be much better after Disney spends $1.1 billion, nearly twice as much as they spent BUILDING the park, to fix it.

 

[Disney_Princess_89]

-Ok first, Roy carried out Walt's plans after he died. They did not make it a "cheapo" copy of Disneyland. Walt himself said there was going to be a park similar Disneyland in Florida: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffnSTfBN1lU&feature=related
-second, I never said bigger is better, I said bigger AND better. Walt wasn't happy with DL because he couldn't add to it and use the surrounding land.
-How is there more charm and magic in Disneyland because it's smaller?? I should think the charm and magic come from the people that work their asses off every day to make the magic come to life for the guests- which would be the same for both DL and WDW.
-DCA was not created by Walt so why would you include that in your argument about "Walt's original park"?
-How is it magical to see skyscrapers and other random buildings next to Disneyland? Walt Disney World has nothing but trees because Walt wanted his world to be a magical place that took you away from reality.

Walt would've cried over Epcot (again, his DYING wish was to have his city of tomorrow built, but alas, it "couldn't be done" and so it turned into a way to make money)

Have you ever heard of Celebration? It may not be exactly as Walt wanted it, but they took the plans for epcot and created Celebration.

The Park Epcot is not the community Walt planned out but they used elements of his plans in creating the park. I think if Walt could see all of this he would be very happy to see his guests having the times of their lives and experiencing the Disney magic.

It's all perspective really. some people prefer Disneyland and some prefer Walt Disney World.
I prefer WDW (obviously) because after working there once already, I can see Walt's "footprint" in the parks every time I see a Cast Member making magic happen for the guests. It's not the size and the number of attractions, (even though WDW is big and awesome and the attractions are all amazing ) it's the magic that happens every day for each and every person that sets foot on WDW property.

Toffy, I'm not trying to attack or offend you in any way and if I have, I am very sorry.
I get defensive when Walt's World gets shafted

 

[cheepono]

I think you are all ridiculous. Seriously, get some friends and get over yourselves.

"Also, in regards to DCA. The concept of the park is dumbfounding. A tribute park to the state the park is located in mixed with the fact that it is exactly the type of park Walt built DL to get away from (talk about an insult/slap in the face) begs the question, why?"

I've never met anyone who has begged the question "why?"
I highly doubt Walt made DLR to get away from JUST California
DCA is a fun park and I'm sure Walt Disney is proud of every second that was put in to creating this park

 

[Elenadc]

Anyways, getting a little more on topic here...

I'm starting to plan my drive down and I'm feeling a little overwhelmed. It feels like there's so much to consider, like the route, when to leave, when I want to get to Florida, etc... I already know that I'll need to break the trip up into two days (it's ~1200 miles), but the big thing I can't decide is if I should book a hotel for that night on the road, or if I should just drive until I get tired and find a Holiday Inn or something similar.

Anybody have a similar experience to share?

 

[jazstar87]

Wow, Can the know-it-all really stop? I am so sick and tired of the KNOW IT ALL SYNDROME on this entire board.... This is the reason I rarely go on.... I want to know information but not in like a snobbish, I am a disney god way... Seriously, it's like who can compete against Steven Colbert's narcissistic ways... and let me tell you... you aren't winning...

and Toffy, I am truly astounded by the fact you want to do the WDW College Program and you only got attractions.... You should be promoted to manager already, in fact maybe the board of directors... since you know what walt wanted and all...

and by the way, I got accepted for Merch for SA 2010, and leaving on Jan 20th

 

[Pecobill]

Anyways, getting a little more on topic here...

I'm starting to plan my drive down and I'm feeling a little overwhelmed. It feels like there's so much to consider, like the route, when to leave, when I want to get to Florida, etc... I already know that I'll need to break the trip up into two days (it's ~1200 miles), but the big thing I can't decide is if I should book a hotel for that night on the road, or if I should just drive until I get tired and find a Holiday Inn or something similar.

Anybody have a similar experience to share?

I know when I was younger I would go with my dad on his trips and we did the last way you described.It honestly worked a lot better

 

[Elenadc]

I know when I was younger I would go with my dad on his trips and we did the last way you described.It honestly worked a lot better

Thanks! That's what I'm leaning towards. I figure the more driving I get done on day one the earlier I get to WDW on day two!

 

[lala88]

I feel the same way about the whole driving thing because if you set a goal and don't make it you are out that money. And if you set it and show up at five you won't want to stop. We have always done it the second way too.

 

[Elenadc]

I feel the same way about the whole driving thing because if you set a goal and don't make it you are out that money. And if you set it and show up at five you won't want to stop. We have always done it the second way too.

That's exactly what I was thinking. This way I'll have the flexibility to stop if I see something interesting too. You know, World's Biggest Ball of Twine or something...

 

[Jelliebean]

That's exactly what I was thinking. This way I'll have the flexibility to stop if I see something interesting too. You know, World's Biggest Ball of Twine or something...

Ha ha.. That is the exact same thing I told my friend when we were thinking of road tripping down there.. Stopping at all the crazy little things like that.

 

[Elenadc]

Ha ha.. That is the exact same thing I told my friend when we were thinking of road tripping down there.. Stopping at all the crazy little things like that.

I'm really looking forward to that stuff! I've never done any kind of road trip before, so I'm so glad I decided to drive this time.

 

[americangeiko]

for those hoping for a BBB position who haven't already received a notice...

I'm declining my BBB Hostess offer. I know that may come as a shock for those who are pining for the positions but I'm a former FGiT and while if I had no other options I'd gladly go back to the BBB, I'm looking to move into other positions in the company. (I'm up for several PIs and a Dland CP doing something not offered at WDW.)

I'm hoping that this position through my 'decline' will go to someone who really deserves it. The BBB is definitely a lot of work, but it really is magic.

~WDWCP Fall 07 BBB Hostess (CC-Opening Team)

 

[Disney_Princess_89]

and by the way, I got accepted for Merch for SA 2010, and leaving on Jan 20th

Congratulations jazstar87!
When was your interview? how long did it take to get your acceptance?

 

[Disney_Princess_89]

I think you are all ridiculous. Seriously, get some friends and get over yourselves.

Wow, that's pretty rude...
we are having a debate- simple as that- you don't see us attacking each other.
don't post anything if you don't like it or have nothing nice to say please!

 

[jazstar87]

Congratulations jazstar87!
When was your interview? how long did it take to get your acceptance?

My interview was the 27th of Augusts at 12pm, I got accepted September 15, at 2:49 pm

 

[Disney_Princess_89]

My interview was the 27th of Augusts at 12pm, I got accepted September 15, at 2:49 pm

yay!