The Official DIS Oscars LIVE Watch Party Thread! The Afterparty continues. . .

[AustinTink]

Side effect of all this drama: Gettin Jiggy With It has been stuck in my head for 24 hours.

 

[elgerber]

too little too late.


btw-went to order a couple of movies w/nominees last night and saw that 'king richard' has been slashed in price on some sights by 50% grrrrrrrrrrrreaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat career move will.

It is unfortunately at #3 on the iTunes chart.

 

[Imzadi]

The plot thickens. Richard Williams came forward to condemn Will Smith's behavior before Smith issued his apology. I'm sure this was a factor in his choice to apologize. I saw King Richard and it seems to me that he raised his daughters to be respectful and above the nonsense.

He used Richard’s name as a way to condone what he did. At least that’s the way I took it.

I haven’t seen the movie, but when WS said “life imitates art” and “love makes you do crazy things,” it made me think Richard Williams might be violent/crazy?

According to some TV segment I saw this morning, Richard Williams is not a violent, crazy person. They interviewed someone who had seen the movie or knows Richard Williams. He said in the movie, Williams had NEVER gone up and voluntarily used violence against another person. When he did have to use force (or violence, I forget the word he used,) it was in response to other people, like being racist or violent to him and the girls first.

Makes sense that he would want to distance himself from Will Smith and what he did, or that HE was the impetus, like Will was still channeling that character.

 

[EMom]

Will Smith’s “apology” is an obvious CYA move.

 

[fly girl]

Too little, too late. This apology feels forced.

Maybe in time ... but right now I am just not believing it. Actions speak louder than words, prove it!

 

[Marrila]

But, see, there's a flaw with that line of thinking. It's not open season on commedians. This incident will not lead to more. Most people don't do somehting wrong not because of the fear of consequences, but rather because they know it's wrong. The slope just ain't that slippery.

I hope you are correct. Going full Smith with no consequences would sadly appeal to some. The new heckle?

 

[Marrila]

Oh, OK, thanks for the info!

And yeah, looks like Smith's agent has convinced him to do damage control, but there's nothing he can do to give the other winners their big moments back, at least the ones who came after his shameful outburst.

Thank you for mentioning the overshadowing of other award winners.
I felt Questlove's documentary Summer of Soul was kind of lost in the crazy outburst.
It truly is a great movie and was so deserving of the award.

 

[Dentam]

On the other hand, Chris Rock also apologized, and very clearly wrote his OWN apology. He continues to be the bigger man.

I can't find this anywhere - can you post it?

 

[Tryxie]

I can't find this anywhere - can you post it?

Chris Rock hasn’t made a statement. The one circulating isn’t real.

 

[anniemae]

I can't find this anywhere - can you post it?

there is an apology, but now it seems like it was a hoax and Chris did not write it.

 

[Vatrahaki75]

Well, I'll tell y'all one thing. If my daughter slapped one of her schoolmates for saying something insulting to her in front of everyone at school, I would've received a call to pick her and her things up - she would've been expelled asap.

 

[Dentam]

Chris Rock hasn’t made a statement. The one circulating isn’t real.

there is an apology, but now it seems like it was a hoax and Chris did not write it.

Oh, no wonder I couldn't find anything! Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[TLSnell1981]

On the other hand, Chris Rock also apologized, and very clearly wrote his OWN apology. He continues to be the bigger man.

I finally watched the clip of the altercation. I have to say I was truly stunned by Will Smith's behavior. Was he drinking or drugging? It was sooo over the top! I applaud Chris Rock. He kept a cool head and tried to deescalate the situation. How Smith went from laughing to crazy in seconds....SCARY!

 

[DLgal]

Chris Rock hasn’t made a statement. The one circulating isn’t real.

Thanks for clarifying

 

[Imzadi]

And yeah, looks like Smith's agent has convinced him to do damage control, but there's nothing he can do to give the other winners their big moments back, at least the ones who came after his shameful outburst.

Thank you for mentioning the overshadowing of other award winners.
I felt Questlove's documentary Summer of Soul was kind of lost in the crazy outburst.
It truly is a great movie and was so deserving of the award.

YES! The oscar right after the slap was for Best Documentary. For years, the Pinkett-Smiths have been the loudest, complaining (especially any year that Will made a movie) that blacks aren't getting nominated or winning,or that their projects aren't thought to be good enough or important.

What an irony. Chris Rock came out to present that award, and the winner turned out to be a proud, humble, black man, Ahmir 'Questlove' Thompson, who also cried onstage during his speech, like Will did. Ahmir's mom cried too. And his documentary was on the injustices to black culture during 1969 in Harlem, NY.

Yet Ahmir's win, that a project about black people won, and the importance of what the documetary was about was all lost in the aftermath after Will slapped Chris.

Ahmir Thompson deserves an apology too from Will.

Here's his acceptance speech:

 

[Marrila]

The music in Summer of Soul is fabulous. One amazing artist or group after another.

 

[Imzadi]

I found some more pictures of Chris trying to talk to Will during the commercial break.

I think this might be the order. The man standing in between Chris and Will is Denzel Washington.

And 15 minutes later, right before the memorium, Denzel & someone else are still going over to talk to the couple in the front row. So, it's not like it settled down, so the audience could settle down and let it go.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508281840984944643

 

[Cheburashka]

Love Denzel Washington & liked that he comforted Jada. Overall, I think this is much ado about nothing. A comedian made a rude joke, which is hardly surprising these days. Will Smith defended his wife, as he should have, and didn't really hurt Chris Rock, who probably didn't think his words would be as hurtful as they were. Divertive event but not a big deal.

I feel bad for Jada, as she's probably embarrassed by this.

 

[Cheburashka]

Well, I'll tell y'all one thing. If my daughter slapped one of her schoolmates for saying something insulting to her in front of everyone at school, I would've received a call to pick her and her things up - she would've been expelled asap.

Expelled seems an exaggeration. Suspended, sure. The girl who made the rude remark would probably get in trouble, too.

I support Smith for defending his wife, but I also support schools for enforcing rules. Smith is lucky he wasn't arrested or beaten up himself. That's what often happens when you hit another person in the grown-up world, which is why schools teach children not to do it, and reinforce that teaching with consequences. In real life, a person doing this at a work-related event would probably also get fired. Will Smith can't exactly get fired, but most sutdents won't grow up to be so wealthy and powerful.

Life isn't fair, no one ever said it was.

 

[brockash]

Yeah, they might - but I don't think they are any more or less likely to do it becasue Will Smith did also. I think if someone was going to be that big of a jerk, then they already were.

It's like if somebody robs a bank and isn't caught, that doesn't make me want to go rob a bank too. And if someone robs a bank and gets caught, I don't think the next guy rethinks his idea to do it too.

It's the message it sends. Your scenario is VERY different than what happened. Again, we keep pushing the pendulum towards a pretty classless and more violent direction and it's showing. Walk into ANY public school....it's showing. Ppl. think they can say and do whatever they feel like with vwry little regard to others or boundaries. It's really sad. Here you have a "coolish" very rich, very successful man make a total embarrassment of everyone on national tv and minutes later show him getting an award, getting attention, giving a speech, being given a standing O by tons of other celebrities and then go out partying...it makes an impact. A really damaging, negative impact on society as a whole.