The nothing negative about Disney post

[CampbellzSoup]

Enjoy your time.

However to me theirs a big difference in living in fantasy land and living in reality.

Disney is a business and sometime a business does not do what the customers want - and we have to be vocally constructive to express how we feel about changes.

 

[Planogirl]

Wow, if some of you think that this forum is negative then you don't get out much.

I must add that it's interesting watching people complain about complainers and then of course others complain because people are complaining about complainers and so on. I think that I'll just continue to post as I always have.

I do appreciate some of the humor in this thread too. Great stuff.

 

[minniemous]

I took my daughter when she was a little under two. Although I do not think she remembers as much as she thinks she does I certainly have memories that will last me the rest of my life. She also had so much fun at the time and that is just as important.

I hope you have a wonderful trip and create great memories with your family. I also look forward to the trip report and I hope you let us know if anything falls short as well because I love to learn from others so I can create a better trip next time!

 

[Roxyfire]

Wow, if some of you think that this forum is negative then you don't get out much.

I must add that it's interesting watching people complain about complainers and then of course others complain because people are complaining about complainers and so on. I think that I'll just continue to post as I always have.

I do appreciate some of the humor in this thread too. Great stuff.

It just goes to show no matter what the hobby, interest, or topic the standard internet engagement styles still exist. I think people can learn a lot more from constructively negative feedback than rants, sarcasm, or arguments. The posts that are flat out rants are really useless and probably should be contained in their own special echo chamber. But I'm pretty sure that would come under some form of online censorship!

 

[GPC0321]

Online forums are notorious for griping, criticizing, and arguing over petty crap. This board is no exception. I think it must fulfill a deep-seated need in many people, myself included at times. Because even complaining about Walt Disney World on a message board is a form of escapism.
A lot of people on this board visit Disney quite frequently. Familiarity often breeds contempt. Likewise, misery loves company.
This phenomenon is not particular to the Disboards. Go to IMDb and read the message boards for various movies. There are far more "haters" who feel the need to voice their negative opinions than those who have positive things to say.
I find that the disgruntled seem to be more compelled to take to the forums and message boards to vent their frustrations. People who are content with whatever is being discussed just don't have the need to post much about it.
I love WDW, and even if I can't get a single FastPass or ADR that I want, I'll still love it. I haven't been for almost 17 years. All I want is for me and my parents to be in good health when spring rolls around, our drive down to be safe, and our time together to be memorable. The older they get, the more aware I am that every day I have with them is a gift. I have no family of my own, and after my brother's untimely and tragic death, I'm all they have left. You'd better believe I want us to have a great time, I just don't think FP+ and ADRs are all that important in the grand scheme of things. But for those who get riled up about meeting women dressed like cartoon characters and a bridge being closed at a certain resort, I hope those are the biggest problems in their lives because the are truly blessed indeed.

 

[danny1649]

Fellow Diser's have been to WDW each year since 1993. I have enjoyed every trip we've made. Yes we have encountered some things we didn't enjoy but still had great days. As a moderator for 15 years, guess how many times I've seen question best day for each park. You can post anything you like or hate about Disney. Understand we mods are not here to defend,praise, or define Disney rules or policies.We give you members the freedom to express yourself on these issues.We step in when posts do not follow Dis posting guide lines.Posting spam,porn and you will be gone from the Dis. Personal attacks and sarcastic attacks can get you a warning or infraction points. So I ask you to remember some folks are making first trip and you might think they are asking a silly question but it is not to them. This Board is a informational site to help others plan a vacation. So I ask you to respect each other even when you have completely different views. Thanks Danny

 

[Magpie]

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Enjoy your time.

However to me theirs a big difference in living in fantasy land and living in reality.

Disney is a business and sometime a business does not do what the customers want - and we have to be vocally constructive to express how we feel about changes.

Your perception of reality is not my perception of reality. I would never accuse you of living in some kind of depressingly negative "fantasy land" because I fully understand that "reality" in this case is merely subjective opinion. The things that you want changed might be things I consider unimportant, or which I might actually consider improvements.

I'm not living in "fantasy land". I'm just enjoying our shared reality a whole heck of a lot more.

 

[mrsjoannh13]

OP here. I echo PP's who have noted I did not mean to tell anyone how to feel or that there are not things about Disney that can be improved. But when I read posts about people being stressed before they even go on their trip about not getting A&E FP or not getting that one dining reservation that will make their trip "perfect" those are not legitimate complaints. That's minutia. It's going into a potential incredible vacation with a negative attitude.

By titling this the "nothing negative" post I was referring to my sentiment about my upcoming trip. Y'all can post anything you want - it's your prerogative. That's what these forums are for. But for me, this trip is for my daughter. I won't let anything like FP or ADR scheduling stress me out or make me pessimistic about this trip. She would pick up on that. And it's a thank you to my parents for helping me with my girl while I work. My mom has never been on a vacation before. I can't help but be excited and optimistic about taking her on an incredible vacation at a nice resort, beautiful setting, with tons of entertainment options. This trip is not about scheduling everything down to the last minute or focusing on all the things that can be changed or improved at Disney. It's getting my family together in an amazing setting and making memories.

If I have a legitimate complaint or issue, I will address it with an appropriate CM in a friendly manner while I'm in Disney. If there are any helpful insights that I can share with fellow DIS'ers when I return then I will. Maybe it will be opinions on things to do and things to avoid (in my opinion) but it won't take away from our overall experience. There will be good and bad everywhere. I just choose not to focus for very long on the bad or it might make me miss out on some of the good.

Peace, DIS'ers.

 

[aj23]

Our attitudes towards situations determine the outcome.

I agree 100% - when last there we had a couple days with some pretty intense thunderstorms that lasted for awhile. And even with that my cousin and I kept smiles on our faces and that's what made it a great trip!

 

[Planogirl]

It just goes to show no matter what the hobby, interest, or topic the standard internet engagement styles still exist. I think people can learn a lot more from constructively negative feedback than rants, sarcasm, or arguments. The posts that are flat out rants are really useless and probably should be contained in their own special echo chamber. But I'm pretty sure that would come under some form of online censorship!

Yes, the arguments in particular don't seem to accomplish much. It's always the same though. Poster A gives a negative review of something. Poster B explains why Poster A is wrong. Then Poster C jumps in and tells them that they are both wrong. And so on and so on.

 

[SaraJR]

I havent followed the whole thread but its sad people couldnt handle having just one totally positive thread, all the OP wanted (from my understanding) was a happy positive pro disney thread, there are thousands of threads many complaint based so why not people who want to complain go to a thread either on the topic of their complaint or complaints in general?? Its really not hard, dont let the internet ruin you, people wer better than this

 

[Dentam]

I havent followed the whole thread but its sad people couldnt handle having just one totally positive thread, all the OP wanted (from my understanding) was a happy positive pro disney thread, there are thousands of threads many complaint based so why not people who want to complain go to a thread either on the topic of their complaint or complaints in general?? Its really not hard, dont let the internet ruin you, people wer better than this

You should probably read the entire thread before jumping to this conclusion.

 

[Roxyfire]

Yes, the arguments in particular don't seem to accomplish much. It's always the same though. Poster A gives a negative review of something. Poster B explains why Poster A is wrong. Then Poster C jumps in and tells them that they are both wrong. And so on and so on.

And I love reading those threads for entertainment's sake!

 

[mrsjoannh13]

You should probably read the entire thread before jumping to this conclusion.

No, SaraJR pretty much summed up my intent in a nutshell. All I wanted was one small bit of positive space where people who have good thoughts and feelings about their trip could come and say - Yeah, me, too.

I really just wanted to create my own tiny ray of sunshine for myself and other DIS'ers to bask in. Sometimes I go a little crazy like that.

 

[mrsjoannh13]

Seriously, who are you to determine what is a "legitimate" complaint ?

Who are you to know what will make a trip magical for another family, or a trip crappy for another family ?

For MANY people, these are once in a life time trips, being shut out of some the the things that appeal most to a family can make a huge difference between an awesome once in a lifetime trip and a disappointing trip which ends up becoming more and more sour given the sacrifices they made to try and give their family the "perfect" trip.

Its Ironic that you say, quite clearly, you can post whatever you want, and I agree, where so many people have chimed in here how they just wish people wouldn't complain and would just go somewhere else instead ... and yet they find it perfectly ok to just complain about people complaining.

Its ironic that PPs have said "if you don't like the positive comment threads why did you come in here" and yet .... you could just ask them, complaining about negative threads (like yourself) "why don't you just not look at negative threads" ???

Its ironic that you say its all about a positive attitude, that a trip is only what you make it, and yet, you go to disney, and talk about the magic of disney, as if it isn't something disney is doing which allows you to feel that way ... why go there, its not the cheapest, its not the most efficient trip ... go somewhere else and "make" that what you want with your attitude. The reality is there is something material that disney does and offers which is special, as they cut back, its totally normal to see your enjoyment being cut back as well.

Its ironic, extremely ironic, that PPs have defended Disney as a corporation doing things that benefit them, that profit them, and yet they are calling down people who complain who are acting as smart consumers. So its ok for a corporation to be a smart corporation and increase its bottom line, but its not ok for consumers to be smart consumers and insist they continue to get the same (or more) value for their dollar ?

I'm me. I'm happy. I feel a little sad that others can't be happy. (shrugs) Then I move back on to being happy. Cuz overall life is really good. And most of what we all have are called first world problems.

G'night all!

 

[Angel Ariel]

But when I read posts about people being stressed before they even go on their trip about not getting A&E FP or not getting that one dining reservation that will make their trip "perfect" those are not legitimate complaints. That's minutia. It's going into a potential incredible vacation with a negative attitude.

The bolded may be how you feel, that doesn't mean that it is true for everyone. I can assure you, despite any preplanning frustration I expressed here, I was still excited about my trip and definitely did not have a negative attitude about the trip. Not as we were packing to go, flying down, not while we were there, and not afterwards. It was a fantastic trip all around. We still don't like fp+ but it didn't make our trip less awesome. It is possible to not like one aspect of something without that ruining the entire thing

You may not agree with a complaint, but that doesn't mean that complaint is invalid. Nor does having a complaint prior to a trip automatically mean you are going into your vacation with a negative attitude about the vacation.

 

[Dentam]

No, SaraJR pretty much summed up my intent in a nutshell. All I wanted was one small bit of positive space where people who had nothing but good thoughts and feelings about their trip could come and say - Yeah, me, too.

I wasn't really referring to your intentions since those were a bit unclear to me. I was referring to posters such as myself who didn't come here to rain on your parade but rather to point out that it is normal for everything in life, even Disney, to have positive and negative aspects and it is normal for people to point them out.

Pretty much every trip report I've read on the DIS has included both positive and negative things that the reporter experienced during their vacation. I'll be interested to read your report when you return.

 

[Dentam]

There are lots of such threads, and even more on the trip reports and pre trips thread. But seriously, there are far more positive threads than negative, this is a fan site after all.

Absolutely! I joined a September Trip countdown thread that was awesome and most of the pre-trip reports I've read have also been overwhelmingly positive.

The title to this thread is "nothing negative about Disney" - heck, I clicked on it because I thought the title was sarcasm... guess I've made that mistake a couple of times here now. It's hard to communicate well with just words on a screen sometimes.

 

[grandmomhop]

I am so excited to be going with my daughter, granddaughter, and two grandsons. The Dad, 17 year old grandson and Poppop are bowing out this time. My 13 yr old grandson thought about staying home but decided he wanted to go because Grandmom was going! (Yeah me) I'll give him my camera and he'll capture things I would never think of.
We are eating at the restaurants we hoped to, maybe not at the perfect times we planned. We are going to see it snow on Main Street, and watch Elsa "freeze" the castle! Once again my granddaughter will see Tinkerbell, and her friend Tuck (I hope. She was completely smitten with him two years ago. It was adorable!) My younger grandson is a happy go lucky kid that just goes with the flow. He's a treat. (His sister has enough diva for everyone)
So, I hope everyone has a magical vacation and not too many meltdowns and disappointments!

 

[Magpie]

Seriously, who are you to determine what is a "legitimate" complaint ?

Who are you to know what will make a trip magical for another family, or a trip crappy for another family ?

For MANY people, these are once in a life time trips, being shut out of some the the things that appeal most to a family can make a huge difference between an awesome once in a lifetime trip and a disappointing trip which ends up becoming more and more sour given the sacrifices they made to try and give their family the "perfect" trip.

Its Ironic that you say, quite clearly, you can post whatever you want, and I agree, where so many people have chimed in here how they just wish people wouldn't complain and would just go somewhere else instead ... and yet they find it perfectly ok to just complain about people complaining.

Its ironic that PPs have said "if you don't like the positive comment threads why did you come in here" and yet .... you could just ask them, complaining about negative threads (like yourself) "why don't you just not look at negative threads" ???

Its ironic that you say its all about a positive attitude, that a trip is only what you make it, and yet, you go to disney, and talk about the magic of disney, as if it isn't something disney is doing which allows you to feel that way ... why go there, its not the cheapest, its not the most efficient trip ... go somewhere else and "make" that what you want with your attitude. The reality is there is something material that disney does and offers which is special, as they cut back, its totally normal to see your enjoyment being cut back as well.

Its ironic, extremely ironic, that PPs have defended Disney as a corporation doing things that benefit them, that profit them, and yet they are calling down people who complain who are acting as smart consumers. So its ok for a corporation to be a smart corporation and increase its bottom line, but its not ok for consumers to be smart consumers and insist they continue to get the same (or more) value for their dollar ?

Your description of people trying to create the perfect once in a lifetime trip reminds me very much of the kind of people I see in reality shows trying to create the perfect wedding, or the perfect dinner party, or the perfect birthing experience, or the perfect cinquinera. They're always ultimately disappointed.

On the plus side, though, I think I can see now why people scream at family and pitch tantrums at cms! Disney does create an expectation of over the top magical perfection. So it's not surprising some people act like they're planning a wedding, not a vacation. And of course everyone who complains believes their complaints are legitimate. If they didn't, they wouldn't be complaining.

Also, it's interesting you're telling the op to take her positive attitude and go vacation somewhere else. Kind of the flip side of, "If you hate Disney so much, why do you keep giving them your money?"