The New Windows 10 - Anyone install it yesterday? Thoughts?

[SkaGoat]

well, considering they used to be $150 for the upgrade version of Windows, and this one was free, they seem to be going in the right direction.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

well, considering they used to be $150 for the upgrade version of Windows, and this one was free, they seem to be going in the right direction.

From what I understand, they are going to do away with the number and just have "Windows" with free updates (like Chrome, Firefox, etc.). Technically it will have a version number, but won't be marketed as "Windows 11" or what have you.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/so...-confirms-there-will-be-no-windows-11-1293309

 

[jec6613]

Which should still have a great password.

Not really, you need a password at all to provide legal protection of it. A nice captive portal system, like most routers have in them today.

Or use RADIUS like I do.

 

[SkaGoat]

RADIUS is overkill for most home users, and I don't care about legal protection, I care about stopping the next door neighbour from using my WiFi to download his/her torrents. The guest network is to segregate the two networks to keep guests out of shared folders etc, not to allow you to have an AP with a crappy password.

Anyway, that's beside the point, just because you don't understand a feature, who's default is set to off to begin with, doesn't mean it's scary, or bad.

 

[jec6613]

Modern home routers have captive portals for guest networks, and can send you an e-mail when somebody joins to either the guest or private network. A captive portal can essentially slow to a stop most penetration attempts, so you can use a relatively insecure password without fear of a brute force attack.

 

[Carrie_Cat]

I use Firefox so have not bothered with Edge. I do find that it is energy draining though and I can't seem to find out why

 

[jec6613]

I use Firefox so have not bothered with Edge. I do find that it is energy draining though and I can't seem to find out why

If you're a heavy FF user, that could be why - using FireFox on my laptop with Windows 8.1 instead of IE it used to cut my battery life in half on one of my laptops ... eek!

Another (more likely) possibility is that you're lacking good enough drivers for your video chipset. Windows 10 (and 7 and 8, for that matter) rely heavily on using your GPU to offload tasks from the CPU. If it can't offload, it uses your CPU, which is much less efficient at handling drawing your screen.

My older ThinkPad actually gained about 2 hours in battery life with the upgrade though, from 6 to 8 hours of usable life.

 

[SkaGoat]

I use Firefox so have not bothered with Edge. I do find that it is energy draining though and I can't seem to find out why

It's most definitely because Edge is tuned for battery life with Windows 10.

I have the same issue on my Mac, Chrome and Firefox just eat battery in comparison to Safari.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I'll wait for the initial release issues to be dealt with and updated before I do. It's just easier that way for me.

This is microsoft were talking here. Beta=Alpha. Release=Beta. 5th or 6th patch=Release quality.

 

[SkaGoat]

Replace w

This is microsoft were talking here. Beta=Alpha. Release=Beta. 5th or 6th patch=Release quality.

Replace Microsoft with every software company operating today, and you're right.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Replace w

Replace Microsoft with every software company operating today, and you're right.

There are several video game companies I get software from and they are polished right out of the box or out of the download. The only patches we receive are to add new characters or new levels to the game and the like or an expansion pack.

 

[SkaGoat]

There are several video game companies I get software from and they are polished right out of the box or out of the download. The only patches we receive are to add new characters or new levels to the game and the like or an expansion pack.

sure....

I would say I've been using Windows 10 since the first Tech Preview was release, and since build 10166 it's been absolutely perfect for me.

Doesn't mean other users aren't experiencing issues with that same piece of software. Same can be said for Yosemite on the Mac, I haven't experienced any of the WiFi issues on any of my Macs. Doesn't mean those bugs don't exist.

I would say that as far as an OS upgrade goes, Windows 10 launch has been about as smooth as it gets. Only issues for myself are confusion around licensing of the free upgrade.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

sure....
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Yup. I am sure I get stuff good to go out of the box from several companies. Any more questions?

 

[tvguy]

If you were eligible for a free install, there should be a Windows 10 logo on the right side of the task bar on the bottom of your screen. You need to sign up there...as I recall, they just ask for your email address.

Wow, never even noticed that at the bottom of the screen. Thanks for the info. I will wait though.
At work, we got an email from Corporate IT saying not to download it and that they don't expect to be switching for at least a year.
Maybe it's just my company, but soooo much software we use only works wotj one particular version of Windows, and with a certain browser.
We use an online graphics software package that only works with Chrome.......but the training website for that software only works in Explorer! Go figure!

 

[Domo]

Just finished upgrading after an agonising wait and generally I'm very happy. Liked Windows 7 and despised Windows 8, but Windows 10 is not that bad. Feels snappy, liking the responsiveness of Edge and the subtle interface effects. Not too shabby, Microsoft.

 

[xlxo]

At work, we got an email from Corporate IT saying not to download it and that they don't expect to be switching for at least a year.

It's understandable... it's very expensive to test and confirm everything works right. Especially for a large company. Yep, we too notice things break when a new OS and some patches comes out.

Doing a google, you'll see Chrome needs to be reinstalled on some Win10 machines.

I remember many refused to go to OS6 on their iPads when Google Maps would not work.

 

[jec6613]

It's understandable... it's very expensive to test and confirm everything works right. Especially for a large company. Yep, we too notice things break when a new OS and some patches comes out.

Yeah ... such a headache, but we'll have a limited Windows 10 rollout soon to kiosk-type systems. Certain things, such as Office and Firefox, are vetted pretty quickly, but other specific apps? sometimes years.

 

[erin1715]

I downloaded it on my home Dell laptop and I don't like it. The biggest problem is that my touchpad slide function no longer works, and I can't find that anyone has a solution to it yet. I also think Edge is slow, so we're still using Firefox.

 

[rucifee]

It's FUD, it's an interesting feature, but it's not on by default, so unless you purposely click the "Share with my contacts" box when you sign into a WiFi hotspot.



It's not stupid scary at all.... How often have you had friends over and had to give them your gigantic WiFi password so they could use your WiFi? It happens to me all the time.

The checkbox is checked by default, I have 4 Windows 10 upgraded laptops and they were all this way. I would be about as comfortable with sharing my WIFI passphrase with a third party, as I would to leave my front door open when I left for work in the morning.

 

[SkaGoat]

The checkbox is checked by default, I have 4 Windows 10 upgraded laptops and they were all this way. I would be about as comfortable with sharing my WIFI passphrase with a third party, as I would to leave my front door open when I left for work in the morning.

But you're not sharing your password...

a few important things in the FAQ about Wi-Fi Sense:

• Your contacts don't see your Wi‑Fi network password. For networks you choose to share access to, the password is sent over an encrypted connection and is stored in an encrypted file on a Microsoft server, and is then sent over an HTTPS connection to your contacts' PC or phone if they use Wi‑Fi Sense. Your contacts don't get to see your password, and you don't get to see theirs.
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• You're in control, and you choose which Wi‑Fi networks you want to share access to. When you first connect to a password-protected Wi‑Fi network, you choose if you want to share access to that network with your contacts. You can share a few networks, a lot, or none—it's up to you to decide which networks you share. You might have more contacts on one social network or service than another, so you could share Wi‑Fi network access with one social network or service and not another to help determine how many people can have access.
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• When you share network access, your contacts get Internet access only. For example, if you share your home Wi‑Fi network, your contacts won't have access to other computers, devices, or files stored on your home network. If you have a small business that has intranet sites, your contacts won’t be able to access them.
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• You share with your contacts, but not their contacts. The networks you share aren't shared with your contacts' contacts. If your contacts want to share one of your networks with their contacts, they'd need to know your actual password and type it in to share the network.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/wi-fi-sense-faq