I saw them in concert with Ph8, Red, Escape The Fate, Anberlin and KoRn. They played before Korn. I wasn't really paying attention when they play though, mostly because I almost passed out when ETF started and that messed me up the rest of the day lol. I also don't really pay attention if I'm not close...I was told to stay in the chairs til Hollywood Undead or Korn. I think they're okay, not really what I would usually like listening to.