The MAGIC is Back!!! ~ WBTA 2014 ~ Come & join the fun!

[disney_leonard]

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Thanks. It is easy to register. I'm looking forward to having everything in one spot.

 

[JustAnnieNotHazel]

Yes, I saw that stuff and it is a huge mass of info which is awesome but very difficult to wade through coming in, trying to figure out which things are open, which are closed and just the shell shock of seeing to much in one big list. I do better when it is broken up a little so I can digest it a piece at a time

Nothing is closed. There is still 16 months until this cruise even happens

 

[squitty]

I have decided not to do the group Mojito Tastings.. if anyone would like to take over then please be my guest.

I have a list of members that would like to take part, I will pass the list.

 

[Pinky166]

I have decided not to do the group Mojito Tastings.. if anyone would like to take over then please be my guest.

I have a list of members that would like to take part, I will pass the list.

Thanks for what you have done to date Michelle.

I cant say I blame you for not wanting to organise an event, I am beginning to feel that all the time I have spent getting all the information together in one place on the 1st page, along with updates every few days and all the votes & polls to keep everything fair has been a waste of my time.

 

[lovingthemouse]

Claire - it has not been a waste of your time. You and all the other helpful folks have put much time and energy into organizing everything so far!!
I feel that comments about organizing everything in "one place" could have been worded more delicately so that many of us who have put so much effort into all this did not feel it was all in vain.

 

[SapphireMind]

I don't want anyone to feel like it was a waste of time and off my wording had that effect, I am truly sorry. It is more to be a tool for you to organize everything more easily. It has nothing to do with your skills in organization, more to do with the fact the software the board runs on does not lend itself well to the level of organization you are doing. No matter how hard you work, it just isn't the ideal software for organizing group events and stuff. Message boards are great for chatting, but once you are getting to so many pages, it is just overwhelming to come in new.

There are some groups (like brunches) that are already closed. And it makes it easier to find the stuff you want to do and organize.

I assumed you and anyone else who was working on the updates still would (I can help transfer info over so you don't have to do that work by yourself, if you want) you would have admin privileges and be able to do all the same stuff, just with a format that lends itself better to a group this size.

 

[squitty]

Thanks for what you have done to date Michelle.

I cant say I blame you for not wanting to organise an event, I am beginning to feel that all the time I have spent getting all the information together in one place on the 1st page, along with updates every few days and all the votes & polls to keep everything fair has been a waste of my time.

Thanks Claire..

I just feel that I want to take a more relaxed approach to the cruise. Take more of a back seat.


I'm sure I am not alone in thinking you've not wasted your time on anything it's hard work to keep up with everyone & everything.

 

[karrit2000]

Claire and all the other organizers of this thread here on the Disboards,

I appreciate everything you've done so far trying to keep all the information organized. It was quite overwhelming when I first found this thread to wade through all the information but once I read through everything I started sending out my PM's requesting space in different events that have already started getting organized. I guess not being in at the beginning of it all in February I can see where some people are feeling like they are going to be shut out of some events. I appreciate all the time & effort the different organizers are putting in trying to keep track of everyone's requests. People need to realize that this is still well over a year away and many more people will join while some for whatever reason will end up not being able to go. I personally dislike having to go to many different places to get the same information. That's part of why I dislike FB so much because I find that so many companies and groups rely too much on the little mostly uninformative news flashes they post to supposedly keep their many fans up to date with the latest news. Call me old fashioned but I prefer coming to these message boards much better than any of the newer methods such as FB, Twitter & whatever Pinterest is. Everyone needs to relax & take a few deep breaths.

 

[Dizneyholic]

I don't want anyone to feel like it was a waste of time and off my wording had that effect, I am truly sorry. It is more to be a tool for you to organize everything more easily. It has nothing to do with your skills in organization, more to do with the fact the software the board runs on does not lend itself well to the level of organization you are doing. No matter how hard you work, it just isn't the ideal software for organizing group events and stuff. Message boards are great for chatting, but once you are getting to so many pages, it is just overwhelming to come in new.

There are some groups (like brunches) that are already closed. And it makes it easier to find the stuff you want to do and organize.

I assumed you and anyone else who was working on the updates still would (I can help transfer info over so you don't have to do that work by yourself, if you want) you would have admin privileges and be able to do all the same stuff, just with a format that lends itself better to a group this size.

I think it's a great idea! Not really sure why this would upset anyone. :

On past WBTA's we've had everything on the front page and an actual website and both were very helpful and great resources. I loved our website for 2010, it was fantastic! I don't think it takes away from anything anyone else has done and will do. It just adds to what's been done so far and makes for easier planning. Anyway, that's just my opinion.

 

[PFlamingo]

Thanks for what you have done to date Michelle.

I cant say I blame you for not wanting to organise an event, I am beginning to feel that all the time I have spent getting all the information together in one place on the 1st page, along with updates every few days and all the votes & polls to keep everything fair has been a waste of my time.

Don't say that, Claire!! You've done an awesome job with this!

I was thinking of the spreadsheets we had on the page Noel organized as we got closer to the cruise. Those made it easy to cross-reference who was where and what they were doing. And I know the Google group thing I used for the FEs made that so much easier. I'd've torn my hair out without it.

I think last time each organizer had a post at the beginning of the thread that we each maintained. It made it easier for the person who originated the thread (who was that? Karen?). I can't recall exactly how we did it, but I know I took care of all the updates for the FE groups so it didn't fall on one person. Maybe we could do that when we get to our next thread.

I can take over the Mojito tasting, Michelle. Thank you for what you've already done!

 

[SapphireMind]

Don't say that, Claire!! You've done an awesome job with this!

I was thinking of the spreadsheets we had on the page Noel organized as we got closer to the cruise. Those made it easy to cross-reference who was where and what they were doing. And I know the Google group thing I used for the FEs made that so much easier. I'd've torn my hair out without it.

I think last time each organizer had a post at the beginning of the thread that we each maintained. It made it easier for the person who originated the thread (who was that? Karen?). I can't recall exactly how we did it, but I know I took care of all the updates for the FE groups so it didn't fall on one person. Maybe we could do that when we get to our next thread.

That's the benefit of having this other site - it allows people collaborate like that easily. I don't care who does what and who wants what permissions to do it. as I said, I'm just providing the tech to be able to do it, not doing any of it myself. (unless someone asks me to help with something)

 

[JustAnnieNotHazel]

I personally find it easier to go to the first page of each of these threads to keep track of what's what rather than having fb, disboards and yet another lo tion for the same information.
The FE. List will be updated on this board, what anyone wants to do with it after that is up to them.

Claire you've done a fantastic job keeping this thread and FB page going even with the hiccups from some along the way
X x x x x x x x

 

[SapphireMind]

I made placeholder pages ::shrug:: If people don't want to accept help from a new person, it's no skin off my nose in the end. I didn't know about the facebook group either. Ideally people would have used the tools so they wouldn't have to use this thread as a wiki (they could use an actual wiki for that purpose) and so other places would be for convos, not places to find information/resources.

Like I said, I cannot/will not force anyone to accept my help.

 

[hazelandannie]

 

[SapphireMind]

It's nothing about the organizers. It's only the software. And I'm only trying to help so it's not so hard on you. The work done is great, but a forum post is less than ideal, no matter what you do or how hard you work, to try and organize events with so many people.

We're all adults. You want to shut me out because of personal pique because I offered to help, that's your choice.

 

[hazelandannie]

 

[SapphireMind]

I can't keep pace, I find it hard to read because of the necessary format of a message board. *shrug* Why make more work for later, moving it? I have the time now. I've been not-so-subtley told to sit down, shut up, you guys are in charge I'm not.

And yet I don't want to be in charge. I just wanted to make a piece of technology to make your life easier. Make it easier for new people like me to find stuff. I wanted to let you continue to be in charge and just try and help.

Let me know when I've paid enough "dues" to be allowed to help.

 

[hazelandannie]

 

[SapphireMind]

Well, I've had plenty of words put in my mouth about things I supposedly felt or said too. It's all about perception. When someone made an inclination that they thought possibly I was judging the organizers - I apologized if anyone thought I said or implied that. My perception is what I posted.

I don't want your real or perceived power. I didn't want anything but to try and help. I should have known better.

Like I said, let me know if you are ever willing to accept help, or when I've gotten enough experience to be able to offer help.

Kind of sucks. My last group was willing to let anyone help. And I never felt like "lesser" because I didn't book as soon as they did.

 

[PFlamingo]

Kind of sucks. My last group was willing to let anyone help. And I never felt like "lesser" because I didn't book as soon as they did.

I don't think anyone here is unwilling to allow anyone to help, or trying to make you feel "lesser". I'm sure if you wanted to transfer the information to the alternative software, no one would object. To suggest they should do it, in addition to what they have already done, is a bit off-putting.

We tend not to ask anyone to do anything around here, as everyone steps up and volunteers on their own. If you have an idea for an activity you would like to organize, or if you want to help someone who is already organizing something, I'm sure everyone would welcome that.