THE LIBERAL THREAD #3- No Debate Please

[WildernessBride]

SLP's only have to take one.

Lucky!!! i had to take the Praxis I Praxis II for Elementary Ed and now the Praxis for reading for my certification!!! AHHHHHGGGG...tests stink!

 

[chrisw127]

I feel so cheap now complaining about my $120 tests!!!! $1200 is much worse!!! The Praxis series of tests are for teachers.

I thought so. Yes, $1200 is terrible. When you add in a Bar review course (which is now around $2500), it's very expensive.

Robbery. Add in $300-$500 for annual bar dues and $1,500-$3,000 for CLE courses and it is very expensive to maintain a license. It seems like many southern states do not have reciprocal agreements - it is tough if you are moving to the state but welcome if you have an established practice here. If S.C. had reciprocity Myrtle Beach and Charleston would be filled with semi-retired lawyers from New Jersey and Ohio. Good luck.

Thanks, I will likely need it. I probably should have taken it five years ago when we moved down here--before I had two more kids! VA is even worse; I once knew a lawyer who moved from the LA office (of H&H) to the N. VA office due to family issues. She'd been an atty for more than 25 years and had to take the Bar again! It was funny to see the recent graduates scurrying around to be the first to offer her their Bar prep coursework.

Digital TV and it's conversion is way down my list of concerns. Way down.

We are on the verge of a depression. It's not that I want a delay, it's that I don't care.

I have to admit: Me too.

 

[LakeAriel]

I have two homes on cable and have no idea if suddenly I will have a blank screen...The thing is, right now putting out $40 for a box to look at TV in 2009..well it seems shallow, with everything else pressing this country.

Next, we will need a convertor bailout...Watching TV shouldn't be a luxury or a stressor. Unlikely those of us posting on the Disboards will lose out, but should anyone have to worry about this RIGHT NOW?

A short delay would hurt who exactly? I really don't know much about it, what harm would a delay cause?

 

[LakeAriel]

Lucky!!! i had to take the Praxis I Praxis II for Elementary Ed and now the Praxis for reading for my certification!!! AHHHHHGGGG...tests stink!

What a coincidence, they just had a ticker here canceling the Praxis for tomorrow, due to the snowstorm coming..I had never heard the term before..

 

[LakeAriel]

Lucky!!! i had to take the Praxis I Praxis II for Elementary Ed and now the Praxis for reading for my certification!!! AHHHHHGGGG...tests stink!

My DGS who reminds me of your DS..

 

[IDoDis]

Guess what M?

I taught them how to say "Yeeehaw! Obama is the King!"

I figure it's only proper to indoctrinate them early.



Hey...they're willing to do the "crappy" work out there at the dairy.

Oh...and on January 20th at 12:01 p.m., I heard it's going to start raining snickers bars and anything you touch will turn into skittles.

I cannot wait! Sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows are coming our way!

Oh, your terrorists are learning to talk well!

BOO-HOO-HOO! Poor Sarah, everyone picked on me during the election. She needs to put her big girl panties on. She looked stupid because of HER actions, not others.

From cnn:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/08/palin-takes-digs-at-fey-couric/

Cry me a river! She's whining about the kids getting dragged into it when she's the one who dragged them in. And that specific SNL dig she referred to WAS about HER, not them. I'm sure she'll be crying her eyes out with happy tears when Bristol and Levi cash that $300,000 check for the baby photos.

So are there any liberals who are actually enthusiastically on-board with the Obama administration on this digital television transition issue?

I think 2 years leeway is long enough. I could live without a TV -- no problem. We have one 50" plasma, two 32" flat screens (all three with satellite) and 1 32" box TV (with no satellite) in the house. Guess who has the non-satellite box TV in our bedroom? I usually only watch dvds anyway. Now, take away my computer and I would be upset.

Obama has a tough road ahead. There will be sacrifices down the road which will cause some to be upset. I wasn't a happy camper when Bush led us into Iraq, but I don't have those kinds of fears with Obama. He's a lot smarter than Bush.

 

[JARNJ3]

Just to make things clear ... Hillary is a Cubs fan. Like me.

There are some things that are far more important than politics or religion.

Ahem - Hillary is also a NY Yankee fan - like me!

 

[LakeAriel]

Ahem - Hillary is also a NY Yankee fan - like me!

That makes two of us, though when Bernie left..I sort of lost interest..

 

[JARNJ3]

That makes two of us, though when Bernie left..I sort of lost interest..

Yes, it was sad the way Bernie left.

But I love most of them - Jeter, Posada, Cano, poor Melky, Matsui, A Rod - and Abreu (who unfortunately is leaving us......)

I could never warm to Giambi.......

We are so excited for the upcoming season! Sabathia, Burnett and Texiera (sp) - I wish Andy would come back too!

And no more NL games for Wang.

Joba is exciting to watch too.

Ok one more - surprising Damon has "become a Yankee" in my mind..... I almost forget who his prior team was......

 

[LakeAriel]

My sister-in-law and I used to go several days a week back in the 80's. My brother's firm had season tickets..Those were the days! Reggie, Winfield, Mattingly...

 

[bicker]

Next, we will need a convertor bailout...Watching TV shouldn't be a luxury or a stressor. Unlikely those of us posting on the Disboards will lose out, but should anyone have to worry about this RIGHT NOW?

Something will always come up that can be used as a rationalization by those who simply don't care to be bothered. That's why the date has been pushed in the past, and why Congress decided to set a deadline date, four years in advance, so that people have more than enough time, regardless of what happens.

A short delay would hurt who exactly? I really don't know much about it, what harm would a delay cause?

There are stations that have already transitioned, as trials and as the vanguard of the transition, who will lose viewers to the stations that procrastinators will watch instead. Part of the planning involved the recognition that all stations must go pretty-much all-at-once (or at least within a small window), because of these competitive concerns. In addition, the entire city of Wilmington, NC, has already transitioned.

Stations have structured maintenance plans based on the transition. Our local Fox affiliate's analog transmission capability was destroyed a few months ago. In a normal situation, they'd have spent tens of thousands of dollars to replace it by now, but instead they patched something together and are operating a low-power for now. They need to know exactly when the transition is to happen so that they can make good decisions about what money to spend for what.

Industry has already bought and paid for the spectrum that the transition will free up. Companies have business plans to execute, capitalizing on the money that they've already spent, spent in consideration of a promise to make the spectrum available. The country must act in good faith. It cannot sell something, take the money, and then not deliver on the schedule outlined in the sales contract.

Most people have known about the transition for a long time, and some have even made expenditures in consideration of the date that the government told them -- expenditures that they perhaps would have preferred to make later. The government's action deliberately (and rightfully) prompted people to make some expenditures now -- it is unfair to reward people who refused to heed the government's warnings about the transition and punish those that did listen to the government.

The government worked with manufacturers on the transition, making commitments to the manufacturers that a market for what the government wanted the manufacturers to sell would exist. And it has until now, but if the transition is pushed out, then sales forecasts are totally scuttled. After representing to industry that the date was firm, and having industry incur expense to build inventories in consideration of that being the date, it is irresponsible to change the date.


EDITED: Discussion of this issue is continued, with more details about what I've written in this message, here: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=29580253&postcount=44

 

[bicker]

I think 2 years leeway is long enough.

I've seen a few people mention two years... there were over three years warning, not two years warning. The transition date used to be in 2006, two years ago, but it was on October 20, 2005 that they changed that date from late 2006 to early 2009.

 

[chrisw127]

Obama has a tough road ahead. There will be sacrifices down the road which will cause some to be upset. I wasn't a happy camper when Bush led us into Iraq, but I don't have those kinds of fears with Obama. He's a lot smarter than Bush.

My fluffy orange cat, the one who likes to bring mice into the house (alive), is probably a lot smarter than Bush.

 

[bicker]

Carter was also a lot smarter than Bush. We cannot allow ourselves as a nation to get too over-confident about anything, because not everything works out like it "should" based on the merits.

 

[Goofyluver]

*Yawn*

Morning libs.

Morning bick. What time do you get up in the morning?

Hey...guess what?

10 days!

 

[shortbun]

I've seen a few people mention two years... there were over three years warning, not two years warning. The transition date used to be in 2006, two years ago, but it was on October 20, 2005 that they changed that date from late 2006 to early 2009.

Well, I hear about it two years ago when the coupons started being offered and ONLY because of the DIS. Had I not been an internet junkie, this summer would have been the first mention I'd heard.

I think a three year delay is ridiculous. I do think, now that a problem has been identified, that certain people-maybe I'll be one of them-should take it on and make sure as many as possible understand and get the converter boxes. A year might work. I gave my coupons away because I realized FINALLY that if I had cable, I had no problems. We also now have all digital televisions around here in case I get mad at the cable companies for bad service, lol!!!

 

[Charade]

Well, I hear about it two years ago when the coupons started being offered and ONLY because of the DIS. Had I not been an internet junkie, this summer would have been the first mention I'd heard.

I think a three year delay is ridiculous. I do think, now that a problem has been identified, that certain people-maybe I'll be one of them-should take it on and make sure as many as possible understand and get the converter boxes. A year might work. I gave my coupons away because I realized FINALLY that if I had cable, I had no problems. We also now have all digital televisions around here in case I get mad at the cable companies for bad service, lol!!!

That was Bicker's point on the other thread. Someone (if they look hard enough) will always be able to point out a problem. As he also pointed out, many things required for this transition have already been set in motion and it would be financially impossible to backtrack now (given the current state of the economy). Hopefully within 6-12 months after the transition date, the problem currently identified (and any subsequent problems) will be addressed. As indicated by a precious poll Bicker posted, a small percentage of DISers said they didn't care if their TV stopped working on Feb 18th.

 

[bicker]

Don't you just love spell-check?

As indicated by a precious poll Bicker posted, a small percentage of DISers said they didn't care if their TV stopped working on Feb 18th.

 

[Charade]

Don't you just love spell-check?

Didn't notice that!

 

[mirmartinez]

*Yawn*

Morning libs.

Morning bick. What time do you get up in the morning?

Hey...guess what?

10 days!