THE iphone quote of the Centry - Updated 07-10-09 - Post #30

[aspen37]

I am one of the Apple brainwashed! I love Apple products. I have an ipod, (well, not anymore. I lost it during the podcast cruise. ) MacBook and I'm planning on getting an iphone. I have a Blackberry and I think it's Ok. Before I lost my ipod I had it for 3 years and had not needed the battery changed.
Now when I went to buy a computer I was going to buy the new Apple Air. The sales person talked me out of it. The Apple Air has an internal battery too. I live 200 miles from the closest apple store so the sales person told me not to spend my money on it. He was very helpful and we picked out a MacBook that was $500.00 less than the Air.
I know people who do not like Apple products but they don't belittle me for liking them. Having different taste is a good thing. That's what make the world interesting.

 

[luke]

The thing is, I'm not apple brainwashed. The iPhone was my very first Apple product.
I have no plans to get a mac or iPod, but the iphone is simply the best phone out there, and none of the pretenders have come close during it's two year lifespan

 

[noladave]

I love my iphones (my 3gs, my 3g, and my wife's 3g), but honestly, Apple blew it on this one. How hard is it to make a replaceable battery. IN fact, they blew the whole insurance thing.

In case you haven't noticed, they said that recently the 3gs has all of $179 in parts COMBINED! So, it wouldn't be hard to charge $5 a month to get a replacement, or to fix, a broken Iphone. This whole thing of charging $500 for a Iphone that gets wet, or is dropped is just stupid.

Having ranted about that, I would never trade my iphone - there is nothing currently on the market that matches it.

Research firm iSuppli today announced the results of its teardown of the new 16 GB iPhone 3GS, estimating the device's parts cost at $172.46, with an additional $6.50 in manufacturing costs bringing the total cost to $178.96. The data compares to a total cost of $174.33 for the 8 GB iPhone 3G at its launch in July 2008.

BusinessWeek provides a full analysis of the iSuppli report, noting that Apple's flash memory costs have been adversely impacted by pricing increases precipitated by production cutbacks in response to economic conditions. While Apple previously relied on the ability to be able to double flash memory capacities at the same price point over models from the previous year, the recent fluctuations have resulted in Apple having to pay more in order to bump the iPhone 3GS's capacity to 16 and 32 GB.

iSuppli's teardown also reveals that Apple is using the same BCM4325 combination Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chip from Broadcom used in the second-generation iPod touch, resulting in a cost savings over the iPhone 3G, which had used two separate chips, a Wi-Fi chip from Marvell and a Bluetooth chip from CSR.

As always, iSuppli's cost estimates do not include software, research and development, distribution, and patent royalty costs. Consequently, Apple's true costs are considerably higher than the figures cited in these studies, leading Apple to sell the iPhone at price points hundreds of dollars above the manufacturing costs. Wireless carriers in turn offer subsidies to customers in exchange for signing multi-year contracts, bringing the final handset cost to the consumer back down to lower price points, such as the $199 price for the 16 GB iPhone 3GS in the U.S. on AT&T.

 

[Alztybrn]

Honestly...the option of not being able to change the battery myself is keeping me from getting an Iphone. I would love to have one, but I need my phone from 7 am till 10pm while using it during the day. I have no time to charge it during the day, but do have time to have a second battery on a dock charger that I can easily change in the afternoon.

If the Iphone ever had this capability, I would have on in an instant.

 

[Blumonkeyboy]

Honestly...the option of not being able to change the battery myself is keeping me from getting an Iphone. I would love to have one, but I need my phone from 7 am till 10pm while using it during the day. I have no time to charge it during the day, but do have time to have a second battery on a dock charger that I can easily change in the afternoon.

If the Iphone ever had this capability, I would have on in an instant.

i think theres an battery attachment. Or an app to charge it 0.0

 

[noladave]

There are definitely charging options for the iphone, but if the battery dies an early death, that doesn't help.

External, from Richard Solo:
http://richardsolo.com/iphone_and_ipod.html

Apple sells one that "encases" the iphone:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/TV809VC/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0MQ&mco=NTExODM4NA

 

[aspen37]

How come it's $500.00 for the battery? The most expensive iphone is $300.00, and the cheapest is $99.00. Can't you just buy a new one?

 

[noladave]

It's not $500 for a battery - the $500 comes into play if you break it, and they can't fix it. Or if you get it wet, and it quits working. There's no insurance option for any accidental breaks.

Most of the time, they can repair the Iphone, but at some point it's almost not worth it. I was in the apple store about 4 weeks ago, and a guy had demolished his LCD (dropped it), and they charged him $200 to replace that - the phone still worked, but the display was all messed up. So now the guy has to come up with $200, whereas if AT&T or Apple charged $5 a month insurance, it would be fixed - that's how most cellphones work.

As for the battery, they can fix that, but the vast majority of the time (if not all the time) they just swap it out - if you are under warranty. If you are past a year old, and didn't buy the apple care warranty, that's when the fun begins.

 

[daneenm]

Normally I would just refrain from commenting, but you caught me on a really bad week...

You don't like the way the phone is engineered, don't buy it! Often, in order to engineer something really different, you have to think outside the box and perhaps structure it in such a way that it cannot be self-serviced by the general population. Is it a draw back - if you need more than that battery can offer you in a day I guess your answer is yes...for the millions who have bought them and are happy with them, I guess the answer is no. Apple's customer Sat ratings, BTW, are consistently through the roof, so I guess the 'loyal customers' are not feeling too put out.

Plain and simple, no one is forcing you to buy an iPhone, not sure why you even bring it up.

 

[FireDancer]

The iPhone, much like most things, is one of many choices. Some people like Apple products and some don't. Like most opinions, neither is right or wrong, both are oppinions.

I won't purchase an iPhone not because I don't think they are a good product, but because I don't like the control Apple places over their products. For example, I want to buy apps for a phone that don't have to be approved by the manufacturer. I also won't buy an operating system that I can't put on any computer I want, regardless of who makes the hardware. This is my choice but I won't judge someone who buys an iPhone or Mac as wrong for doing so, it just isn't the way I want to spend my money.

There are many pros and many cons to any mobile OS. It the one that fits your needs best is the iPhone buy it. If the one that fits our needs best is Blackberry, Symbian, WebOS, Windows Mobile, or Android buy it.

This may all be a mot point anyway because the EU has presented legislation making it illegal to sell any product with a battery that can not be removed by the customer without voiding the warranty. If this passes Apple will not cut off their nose and not sell the phone in such a big market so a version will be made with a replaceable battery. If a replaceable battery is so important have all your EU friends write their EU representative.

 

[wdwowner]

Perfect iPhone Editorial

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/10/editorial-taking-the-iphone-3gs-off-the-job-market/

Yep, says it all.

 

[DisneyKevin]

As someone that doesnt own or want to own an iPhone, what are you getting out of this?

Why are you determined to convince others to agree that the iPhone is bad?

I really dont understand the reasoning behind the negativity.

 

[luke]

Really, why is it so hard for you to seemingly accept other peoples opinions?

 

[wdwowner]

Really, why is it so hard for you to seemingly accept other peoples opinions?

Let's turn this right back at iphone users.

"Really, why is it so hard for you to seemingly accept other peoples opinions that the iphone is not good, and that people who don't have an iphone are bad?"

That is how Kevin and all iphone owners sound towards people who don't possess one. It is pretty belittling to people to keep hearing stuff like that.

 

[DVCsince02]

How about this.... I don't care what anyone thinks of my phone. I am happy and that's all that matters.

Who wants cake?

 

[Tonya2426]

How about this.... I don't care what anyone thinks of my phone. I am happy and that's all that matters.

Who wants cake?

 

[luke]

thank god you posted that, I nearly had a rant

 

[DVCsince02]

You've been holding on to that one haven't you? Just waiting for the right cake moment......

 

[Blumonkeyboy]

Let's turn this right back at iphone users.

"Really, why is it so hard for you to seemingly accept other peoples opinions that the iphone is not good, and that people who don't have an iphone are bad?"

That is how Kevin and all iphone owners sound towards people who don't possess one. It is pretty belittling to people to keep hearing stuff like that.

We interupt your cake to bring you this special message.

What Kevin and everyone else does to do with Iphones is merely playful teasing. I dont have an Iphone, i cant get an Iphone (ATT is bad in my area) and yet, i find it funny.


Now back to your regularly scheduled PIE

 

[Tonya2426]

You've been holding on to that one haven't you? Just waiting for the right cake moment......

Actually, I just found it but am gonna hold on to it for future use. I makes me laugh everytime I see it.