The Genie Usage, Tips and Strategy ONLY Thread

According to genie plus helper (which uses thrill data info), yesterday Remy LL was gone by 7:15am, Frozen by 9:10, and Test Track by 9:50. The park opened at 8:30, so the first time to book another LL (after initial 7am booking) would have been 10:30. How did LLs for Frozen and TT book up before 10:30? Did some people wait to book their first ride until those times? Did others have first ride times before 10:30, so they were able to pull next LL before 10:30? I can understand those rides being gone at 10:30, but I am confused about how they were gone before even having the ability to choose a second LL.
 
According to genie plus helper (which uses thrill data info), yesterday Remy LL was gone by 7:15am, Frozen by 9:10, and Test Track by 9:50. The park opened at 8:30, so the first time to book another LL (after initial 7am booking) would have been 10:30. How did LLs for Frozen and TT book up before 10:30? Did some people wait to book their first ride until those times? Did others have first ride times before 10:30, so they were able to pull next LL before 10:30? I can understand those rides being gone at 10:30, but I am confused about how they were gone before even having the ability to choose a second LL.
If the park opens at 8:30 and my first LL is 9, I can grab one right away so Technically people can be grabbing a 2nd one before 9. Some people may sleep in and book later. And the last one if someone is trying to stack and wait for a time post 2pm retun time (due to hopping or just preference) so they waited till say frozen got to a 6pm return time they might just grab their first one at 9.
 
If the park opens at 8:30 and my first LL is 9, I can grab one right away so Technically people can be grabbing a 2nd one before 9. Some people may sleep in and book later. And the last one if someone is trying to stack and wait for a time post 2pm retun time (due to hopping or just preference) so they waited till say frozen got to a 6pm return time they might just grab their first one at 9.
Thanks - I had thought about the first 2 cases, but I had forgotten about park hoppers "stacking". Only being able to use G+ for one of the 3 most popular rides is disappointing. It's the equivalent of paying ILL price for that one G+ ride you were able to book. I know there are other G+ rides at Epcot, but they are often walk-ons or have very limited wait times.
 

I'm headed to DW this month on the 28th and I'm trying to figure out if you need a park reservation at a certain park in order to get an ILL$. We have park hoppers as well. I have seen nothing saying that that is a restriction, but I want to confirm here. Does anyone have an answer?
 
I'm headed to DW this month on the 28th and I'm trying to figure out if you need a park reservation at a certain park in order to get an ILL$. We have park hoppers as well. I have seen nothing saying that that is a restriction, but I want to confirm here. Does anyone have an answer?
With a park hopper ticket, you can purchase an ILL$ in any of the four parks, but you can only purchase two ILL$ per day.
 
I've got about 2 weeks and a few days, but the anxiety of bringing 4 other people (young adults) with us is ramping up lol.

If I have a day (Saturday of "jersey week") where I want to try for GoG ILL, RISE ILL, and SDD, would it make sense to split up the "jobs" between DH and I (I'm thinking by our 3rd day, he'll be able to use G+, typically I manage all of this).

What would be recommendation. Me go for SDD, while he's is getting GoG, then grab Rise?

Editing to ask a different question. If you were ranking the demand of GoG, FoP, Rise, what would it be? I'm not sure what our DSs will want to revisit on our 3rd day, so just curious on thoughts. I try to use Thrill Data but figured I'd get real opinions.
 
I would go for GoG while I let DH go for SDD. Once done with the VQ I would get Rise. Seems Rise isn't going as fast anymore but the VQ goes within seconds and SDD goes out to late times within a minute.
 
I've got about 2 weeks and a few days, but the anxiety of bringing 4 other people (young adults) with us is ramping up lol.

If I have a day (Saturday of "jersey week") where I want to try for GoG ILL, RISE ILL, and SDD, would it make sense to split up the "jobs" between DH and I (I'm thinking by our 3rd day, he'll be able to use G+, typically I manage all of this).

What would be recommendation. Me go for SDD, while he's is getting GoG, then grab Rise?

Editing to ask a different question. If you were ranking the demand of GoG, FoP, Rise, what would it be? I'm not sure what our DSs will want to revisit on our 3rd day, so just curious on thoughts. I try to use Thrill Data but figured I'd get real opinions.


Since you are going for reservations in two different parks, the ride times that you select will matter more to you than for a group that is staying in one park. Your plan of have two people working at the same time does work well for this sort of strategy. Whichever one of you is most comfortable navigating the app should be the one to book SDD (the non-ILL ride).

That person should have an idea of the window of time that would work best for your party and refresh the SDD LL selections until you get close to that time. Jump on any time that is near the window of time you want, because you are not guaranteed a time until you finish this booking process, and the time will change.

The second person should also know when you want to be at each of the ILLs that day, and can easily pick a time slot for each of those rides without much stress. Plan enough time to do what you want to do in HS and take the transportation between parks and walk to GoGCRR.

As to your second question, I can say this: Rise always has a high ILL price due to the demand to ride it without waiting in the standby line. FOP has a lot of demand as well but less of a price. Both stand by lines can reach times of well over an hour. Rise costs more, but I think it is a better ride.

GOGCRR has both ILL and a VQ so there are two ways to access the ride, but there still is no stand by. This makes the choice for GGCRR easy. Do I want to pay? If not, did I get a spot in the VQ? If not, do I care about the afternoon VQ? If not, forget about it.
 
Is there still time to buy a GotG ILL if you miss out on the 7am VQ? Also, is there still time to buy RotR after trying for SDD?
 
In the My Day section of the Genie I have edited my selections for our first park day on 11/4 but when I go to the tip board it doesn't show my selections first. Will that change on 11/4 or do I also have to edit my selections prior to 7 am on the tip board?
 
Is there still time to buy a GotG ILL if you miss out on the 7am VQ? Also, is there still time to buy RotR after trying for SDD?
GOTG - yes I was able to buy ILL after VQ if you get VQ you could go twice!

ROTR - less likely, I have had little luck getting both. I was able to one time, but I got a very late SDD and a later Rise, but that was August and it was low crowds. All times I have my kids pick the priority and go for that first and hope I get lucky and get both.
 
We were there last week. Went to MK on a party day, by design. We stacked Genie + for the afternoon as the morning was very quiet. We did early entry and ILL$ for 7DMT. By 6 pm, we had done 19 attractions and rides using a combination of standby and 6 LL's.
Thanks. Do you remember which Genie+ rides you chose in which order? At least the first 2 or 3? Thanks!
 
Thanks. Do you remember which Genie+ rides you chose in which order? At least the first 2 or 3? Thanks!
Our 1st was Jungle Cruise at 1. Purchased 7DMT as ILL$.
Did Space Mtn, Buzz, HM, splash, BTMRR, Pirates standby.
Genie + was Jungle cruise 1, HM 1:30, Pirates 2:15, BTMRR 3, Buzz 3:45, SM 5. Just kept stacking the afternoon as the park was not crowded in the morning. I think we just very lucky how the times worked out for us.

I would put the first Genie + no earlier than 2 hours after park opening as most days you can walk on most rides with a short wait. Putting the first early afternoon, gave us additional at 10:30 and 12:30 to stack in the afternoon, so we had 3 in place before our 1st one. Then you could get an additional one after we did Jungle Cruise. After that, the times we could get another Genie + didn't seem to make sense. Sometimes it was after tapping in. other times, it was 30 or 60 minutes later. I suspect it had to do with the number of rides we had in place.
 
This early entry plus Genie+ is something we will definitely be doing. I assume this is the best way to get everything done assuming you don't like sleep and/or are ok with paying for Genie+ and potentially even the ILL$. Is this a safe assumption?

FYI, in paper FP and FP+ we followed the rope drop, leave park at around lunch, return to a second part in the evening strategy. We plan to operate under the same basic premise under the Genie+ rules.

Of course our trip is not until October of 2023 so we might be on Genie++ at $100/pp by then.
 
Going to MK on 11/12 as a surprise short trip for DD's 21st birthday (end of Jersey week, Saturday, between MVMCP parties... SO not an ideal date but her birthday is when it is!!!) . First time back at MK since 2019, and I am trying to get a crash course Genie+ since we've just got one day to 'get it right', lol. I've read all the strategies and watched all the videos and feel like I've got a fair grasp on how it works... but I'm not sure of the best strategy during a fairly busy day. Staying onsite so we will rope-drop and then close out the park at 11pm (all adults, no littles). We've been multiple times over the years so it's not a first/only type trip but there are still some things we'd like to accomplish.

Priorities:
Meet Mickey & Minnie
Jungle Cruise
Peter Pan
3 Mountains
7DMT (will save this for last ride/end of night)

My thought is to try to snag a hopefully early return (9-10am) LL#1 for either Meet Mickey or Jungle Cruise at 7 am, hit PP at Rope Drop 1, then Splash at Rope Drop 2, then try to grab either Mickey or Jungle Cruise for LL#2 after tapping into LL#1 which hopefully won't have too long of return times by then... then move on to the other mountains...

I think my biggest concern is not being sure how to know what strategy to employ after getting the first 2-3 things done?? On a busy day is it better to just go with what's available/nearby so you don't get locked out by the 2 hour return window as much? Or is it better to take the 'sure thing' of getting on the ride and stack them up for later in the day?? I'm trying to be a 'flexible planner' but I don't know how to pivot if the return time windows are not co-operative after multiple refreshes.

Help.
 
Going to MK on 11/12 as a surprise short trip for DD's 21st birthday (end of Jersey week, Saturday, between MVMCP parties... SO not an ideal date but her birthday is when it is!!!) . First time back at MK since 2019, and I am trying to get a crash course Genie+ since we've just got one day to 'get it right', lol. I've read all the strategies and watched all the videos and feel like I've got a fair grasp on how it works... but I'm not sure of the best strategy during a fairly busy day. Staying onsite so we will rope-drop and then close out the park at 11pm (all adults, no littles). We've been multiple times over the years so it's not a first/only type trip but there are still some things we'd like to accomplish.

Priorities:
Meet Mickey & Minnie
Jungle Cruise
Peter Pan
3 Mountains
7DMT (will save this for last ride/end of night)

My thought is to try to snag a hopefully early return (9-10am) LL#1 for either Meet Mickey or Jungle Cruise at 7 am, hit PP at Rope Drop 1, then Splash at Rope Drop 2, then try to grab either Mickey or Jungle Cruise for LL#2 after tapping into LL#1 which hopefully won't have too long of return times by then... then move on to the other mountains...

I think my biggest concern is not being sure how to know what strategy to employ after getting the first 2-3 things done?? On a busy day is it better to just go with what's available/nearby so you don't get locked out by the 2 hour return window as much? Or is it better to take the 'sure thing' of getting on the ride and stack them up for later in the day?? I'm trying to be a 'flexible planner' but I don't know how to pivot if the return time windows are not co-operative after multiple refreshes.

Help.
I would recommend reading the first posts in the 'Everything Genie' thread. It details samples of different ways to approach getting LL reservations.

I would also recommend using Thrill-Data.com. You can look up individual attractions and see how long LL reservations are lasting.
 












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