The First Candidate Implosion

[BuckNaked]

It doesn't really matter what kind of posing he did in the past, does it? His true colors showed that day because he couldn't control the nasty, racist beast inside him. And he lost. Justice was served and he can go away and not bother us now.

Right...he knew that Macaca (in some parts of the world) was considered a racial slur, so he said in a taped speech so that it could be shown all over the country when he was in a tight Senate race.

As for bothering you, he must not have bothered you much, seeing as you didn't even know where he was from.

 

[maddiemouse]

In light of some of the comments made on this thread, one has to wonder if Barbara Bush is yet again wondering if this is working out very well for them.....

Let them eat cake.

 

[Charade]

Yeah, and especially that Maccaca guy - what's his name, from TN? He's a lover of minorities, too.

It was Virginia and if you noticed, he's out.

 

[Mugg Mann]

Let them eat cake.

<giggle>

Touche!

 

[rie'smom]

I'm pretty much hoping that each of the candidates from both parties implode at least one time. The presidential races have become mind numbing. The races in the late '60's and the 70's even 1980 were interesting. Issues were actually discussed. The news stations hadn't yet become the National Enquirer and I include the network news in this assessment. Bring it on Howard Dean-----please

 

[Charade]

In light of some of the comments made on this thread, one has to wonder if Barbara Bush is yet again wondering if this is working out very well for them.....

Since you brought this up, I read the other day that some people that were forced to relocate are much happier now than were they were. And they aren't going back.

 

[Charade]

It doesn't really matter what kind of posing he did in the past, does it? His true colors showed that day because he couldn't control the nasty, racist beast inside him. And he lost. Justice was served and he can go away and not bother us now.

And Robert Byrd, who apologized, was forgiven for being in the KKK 50 years ago used the "N" word in a televised program just 6 years ago. Did he have a relapse or something? Or did his "true" colors never go away?

We can go tit for tat with these things all day long but in the end one thing will be obvious. Democrats usually get a pass, Republicans usually don't.

 

[NewJersey]

I wouldn't put Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in the same league with Barack Obama. Senator Obama appears to be a man of class. I cannot the say the same about Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, since I consider them both classless opportunists. And I don't particularly care what color anybody's skin is. Neither race nor money have anything to do with whether or not a person has class.

 

[Micca]

Anyone who calls me clean and articulate is itchin' for a fight.

 

[Saxsoon]

And Robert Byrd, who apologized, was forgiven for being in the KKK 50 years ago used the "N" word in a televised program just 6 years ago. Did he have a relapse or something? Or did his "true" colors never go away?

We can go tit for tat with these things all day long but in the end one thing will be obvious. Democrats usually get a pass, Republicans usually don't.

Sadly racism is something that is still alive to this day. It exists in both parties. For some people, the Aristocracy of the South will rise again.

 

[Planogirl]

Racism definitely exists in both parties and it would be silly to deny that. However, even though I'm not Biden fan, I don't think that this is a big deal. I believe that I understand what he meant and it wasn't meant the way many of his opponents would have everyone believe. But it doesn't matter anyway, he's a major long shot.

 

[Caradana]

I really like Joe Biden - this one made me cringe. ugh. I wonder if it's recoverable. I hope so.

 

[LuvDuke]

Right...he knew that Macaca (in some parts of the world) was considered a racial slur, so he said in a taped speech so that it could be shown all over the country when he was in a tight Senate race.

As for bothering you, he must not have bothered you much, seeing as you didn't even know where he was from.

Yup in some parts of the world like Tunisia ............ where his mother just happened to have grown up.

And Allen wasn't in a tight Senate race when he made the remark.

 

[DISUNC]

I really like Joe Biden - this one made me cringe. ugh. I wonder if it's recoverable. I hope so.

He tripped right out of the gate!

 

[Saxsoon]

Racism definitely exists in both parties and it would be silly to deny that. However, even though I'm not Biden fan, I don't think that this is a big deal. I believe that I understand what he meant and it wasn't meant the way many of his opponents would have everyone believe. But it doesn't matter anyway, he's a major long shot.

Oh I agree, this is nothing. Let's wait and see for the real fireworks to show.

 

[LuvDuke]

Racism definitely exists in both parties and it would be silly to deny that. However, even though I'm not Biden fan, I don't think that this is a big deal. I believe that I understand what he meant and it wasn't meant the way many of his opponents would have everyone believe. But it doesn't matter anyway, he's a major long shot.

I agree with you. I don't think Joe Biden is a racist. I understand what he was trying to say and I don't believe he meant "clean" as in "just took a bath". I think he meant uncorrupted.

Regardless, it was a thoughtless, condescending way to phrase things. However, if Obama has any smarts, he'd make a joke of this, take the heat off Biden, and come out looking like a bigger man.

 

[TheGoofster]

Racism definitely exists in both parties and it would be silly to deny that. However, even though I'm not Biden fan, I don't think that this is a big deal. I believe that I understand what he meant and it wasn't meant the way many of his opponents would have everyone believe. But it doesn't matter anyway, he's a major long shot.

What? How dare you try and figure out for yourself what somebody was trying to say. Don't you realise that you can only understand what somebody means by listening to the media? YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! Where have you been for the last 15 years?
If the media tells you that Bush meant this, then that is what he meant.
If the media tells you that Hillary meant this, then again, that is what she meant. You got it?

 

[Fitswimmer]

The reason I posted this was because I think that this is what is bad about a year long campaign. It's a rare person who can have the media in their face 24/7 for that long without saying something that someone is going to read as offensive.
Also, however you feel about Senators Clinton and Obama, they are going to be VERY difficult to campaign against. It will be hard for an opponent in the primaries or the general to go after them without appearing like they are attacking the "woman" or the "african american".
When Senator Clinton was running in NY for her first term, her opponent went after something she said in a debate. He was pointing his finger and raising his voice in his rebuttal, clearly aggressive. He got SLAMMED for it. I wondered then if he would have been treated as negatively if the opponent had been male.

I always have an issue when people bring up Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton-both men have said and done AMAZINGLY insensitive and politically incorrect things over the years and it doesn't seem to have damaged them at all.

 

[ButchJohnson]

I think its pretty insulting in a way. I mean its not the worst thing that has ever happened but I think it just highlights Biden's "elitism." It reminds me of when Tiki Barber speaks its like "Oh did you see Tiki, he can speak so well, he's so articulate." Which is an obvious implication that African Americans can't talk? What's up with that?

Next Biden will say, did you see Mike Huckabee? He can really move fast for a white guy.

 

[NELSON]

Despite his call this weekend for a timetable for the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, Iran’s deputy foreign minister for legal and international affairs, Abbas Araghchi, told reporters at a multinational peace conference in Baghdad that he has “no immediate plans” to seek the Democrat nomination for the U.S. presidency in 2008.

But of course, in political circles, such denials only set tongues to wagging, spur pundits to handicap the hypothetical race and send pollsters to the phones.

An overnight Quinnipiac University poll of likely Democrat voters showed that while 93 percent could not pronounce the Iranian diplomat’s name, a majority still felt that his opposition to the U.S. occupation of Iraq proves that he has “the right stuff” to mount a serious bid to head the Democrat White House ticket.

Sen. Joe Biden, D-DE, already a presidential candidate himself, said the deputy foreign minister’s early bump in the polls shouldn’t come as a surprise after the rock-star treatment received by presidential rival, and fellow war critic, Sen. Barack Obama.

“I mean, you got the first mainstream Iranian who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Sen. Biden said, “and he doesn’t have the baggage some of us carry of having voted for the Iraq invasion in 2002. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”