DIS Dads The DIS Dad's Club IV - Man Laws & Cheese Balls

[AJRitz]

I need some advice from the Dad's out there. I'm going to have an issue when my 8-year old daughter finds out tomorrow about the swim team. We belong to a local swim club and my daughter was trying to make the A-team for competitive swim meets - last year she only competed in the B events.

Last week, they had the time trials and she won her heat in both the Freestyle and Backstroke time-trials. All the parents sitting by the end of the pool, including me, congratulated her on winning those two events.

An hour ago, the swim coach sent an E-mail with the lineups for this week's A-meet and my daughter's name was not listed. However, the girl who was in the lane next to her during the time-trials was listed as competing for the A team in both freestyle and backstroke events although my daughter beat her (and knows she did) in both events. I e-mailed the coach and he said, understandably, that he has to go by the timekeepers and admits they are not perfect. He says that she finished second in freestyle by 2 hundredths of a second (she actually won by half a body length) and had no comment on the backstroke. I am not going to make a bigger issue out of this with him, so my daughter will just compete in the B meet until the next time trial. He also said he is going to time her at the B meet to see if her times have improved (I have a feeling they will).

However, when my daughter finds out, she will be very upset. I must admit I am still annoyed. Anyone out there ever encounter a similar situation? What do you tell your daughter? She won the race fair and square and she knows it. I always encourage her to do her best and I'm proud of her because she did. Unfortunately, to put a not-so-fine point on it, she got screwed.

I'm probably going to tell her that the timekeepers made a mistake, but I'm not sure if that is the best thing to do.

Help.

ClearScreen

Human error is a part of every sport - sometimes on the part of participants and sometimes on the part of officials. The only way to deal with human error is to consistently improve both your skills and your knowledge of the rules of your game, so that you have a better chance of overcoming human error the next time. And remember, there's ALWAYS a next time.

 

[Bunch24]

I need some advice from the Dad's out there. I'm going to have an issue when my 8-year old daughter finds out tomorrow about the swim team. We belong to a local swim club and my daughter was trying to make the A-team for competitive swim meets - last year she only competed in the B events.

Last week, they had the time trials and she won her heat in both the Freestyle and Backstroke time-trials. All the parents sitting by the end of the pool, including me, congratulated her on winning those two events.

An hour ago, the swim coach sent an E-mail with the lineups for this week's A-meet and my daughter's name was not listed. However, the girl who was in the lane next to her during the time-trials was listed as competing for the A team in both freestyle and backstroke events although my daughter beat her (and knows she did) in both events. I e-mailed the coach and he said, understandably, that he has to go by the timekeepers and admits they are not perfect. He says that she finished second in freestyle by 2 hundredths of a second (she actually won by half a body length) and had no comment on the backstroke. I am not going to make a bigger issue out of this with him, so my daughter will just compete in the B meet until the next time trial. He also said he is going to time her at the B meet to see if her times have improved (I have a feeling they will).

However, when my daughter finds out, she will be very upset. I must admit I am still annoyed. Anyone out there ever encounter a similar situation? What do you tell your daughter? She won the race fair and square and she knows it. I always encourage her to do her best and I'm proud of her because she did. Unfortunately, to put a not-so-fine point on it, she got screwed.

I'm probably going to tell her that the timekeepers made a mistake, but I'm not sure if that is the best thing to do.

Help.

ClearScreen

Use this as an opportunity to teach her that life is not always fair and that sometimes you're going to face adversity. It's not the number of times you get knocked down in a fight, it's the number of times you get back up.

Kids are a lot more resilient than we give them credit for sometimes. I've been involved in sports my entire life, in one form or another. I've played, coached, written about it, organized it, officiated it. And I can tell you from my 30 years of experience, more often than not, the parents are more crushed than the kids. Don't let her see your frustration, let her see your positive reinforcement.

Let her kick *** (figuratively) in the B level and the coach will have no choice but to move her up. Failure (even when it's human error or underlying political motives) is often the best motivator for an athlete.

 

[DisneyFed]

I need some advice from the Dad's out there. I'm going to have an issue when my 8-year old daughter finds out tomorrow about the swim team. We belong to a local swim club and my daughter was trying to make the A-team for competitive swim meets - last year she only competed in the B events.

Last week, they had the time trials and she won her heat in both the Freestyle and Backstroke time-trials. All the parents sitting by the end of the pool, including me, congratulated her on winning those two events.

An hour ago, the swim coach sent an E-mail with the lineups for this week's A-meet and my daughter's name was not listed. However, the girl who was in the lane next to her during the time-trials was listed as competing for the A team in both freestyle and backstroke events although my daughter beat her (and knows she did) in both events. I e-mailed the coach and he said, understandably, that he has to go by the timekeepers and admits they are not perfect. He says that she finished second in freestyle by 2 hundredths of a second (she actually won by half a body length) and had no comment on the backstroke. I am not going to make a bigger issue out of this with him, so my daughter will just compete in the B meet until the next time trial. He also said he is going to time her at the B meet to see if her times have improved (I have a feeling they will).

However, when my daughter finds out, she will be very upset. I must admit I am still annoyed. Anyone out there ever encounter a similar situation? What do you tell your daughter? She won the race fair and square and she knows it. I always encourage her to do her best and I'm proud of her because she did. Unfortunately, to put a not-so-fine point on it, she got screwed.

I'm probably going to tell her that the timekeepers made a mistake, but I'm not sure if that is the best thing to do.

Help.

ClearScreen

I have been there...it sucks....the best thing you can do in this, what is essentially a lose-lose situation is "Never Give Up, Never Surrender"...

These things, happen, and getting screwed sucks all the way around...

If it were me, I'd follow the "protest" procedures if there are any---if not, I would make it so it wasn't even close next time...

Sorta don't know what else you could do?? Bunch is right...that could be one heck of a motivator if handled right!

Man, that sucks though.

 

[ClearScreen]

Human error is a part of every sport - sometimes on the part of participants and sometimes on the part of officials. The only way to deal with human error is to consistently improve both your skills and your knowledge of the rules of your game, so that you have a better chance of overcoming human error the next time. And remember, there's ALWAYS a next time.

Use this as an opportunity to teach her that life is not always fair and that sometimes you're going to face adversity. It's not the number of times you get knocked down in a fight, it's the number of times you get back up.

Kids are a lot more resilient than we give them credit for sometimes. I've been involved in sports my entire life, in one form or another. I've played, coached, written about it, organized it, officiated it. And I can tell you from my 30 years of experience, more often than not, the parents are more crushed than the kids. Don't let her see your frustration, let her see your positive reinforcement.

Let her kick *** (figuratively) in the B level and the coach will have no choice but to move her up. Failure (even when it's human error or underlying political motives) is often the best motivator for an athlete.

I have been there...it sucks....the best thing you can do in this, what is essentially a lose-lose situation is "Never Give Up, Never Surrender"...

These things, happen, and getting screwed sucks all the way around...

If it were me, I'd follow the "protest" procedures if there are any---if not, I would make it so it wasn't even close next time...

Sorta don't know what else you could do?? Bunch is right...that could be one heck of a motivator if handled right!

Man, that sucks though.

Thanks guys. That's exactly what I'll do. I haven't told her yet. She will find out later this afternoon. I can't protest anything - the coach will find out soon enough who the better swimmer is. The funny part is there were a lot of parents there (we all know each other) who saw my daughter win both races - they congratulated her. Her friends know it as well and I'm sure they will be talking when they see she is not at the A meet. She's been using the A Team as motivation all year to improve and I want her to keep that.

I have played and coached for 30+ years myself. I still play ice hockey. It just sucks when something like this happens. I am still ticked off about the 8th grade football team. The head coach put me on the kickoff team and I made 3 tackles out of 4 kickoffs the first game. Next week at practice, the head coach wasn't there and an assistant coach took me off special teams so his nephew would have a spot. At the game, the head coach asked why but didn't have the guts to overrule the assistant coach! My friends, to this day, still remember when that happened - and remind me, of course - that's what friends are for!

Thanks again and enjoy your 4th!!

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[Bunch24]

Happy Independence Day to all the DIS Dads!

And a special salute to all our DIS Dads who have previously served, or currently serving in the armed forces. Thank you for sacrificing your lives for our freedom.

 

[AJRitz]

Weather is threatening to screw with today's 4th of July plans. Hopefully, lightning will stay away so the kids can swim during the "drizzle" phase of today's expected rain. But "heavy thunderstorms", beginning at 7 pm, are likely to ruin fireworks.

 

[AirGoofy]

Thanks guys. That's exactly what I'll do. I haven't told her yet. She will find out later this afternoon. I can't protest anything - the coach will find out soon enough who the better swimmer is. The funny part is there were a lot of parents there (we all know each other) who saw my daughter win both races - they congratulated her. Her friends know it as well and I'm sure they will be talking when they see she is not at the A meet. She's been using the A Team as motivation all year to improve and I want her to keep that.

Just one other thing to add - she is a girl. I did not have this situation, but long story short, a complete screw-up with a upwards basketball thing. I did a long explanation about rules with dd (8), and when I asked if she understood, she said "so, they messed up". I said yes and she went out and played and never mentionned it again. But, she gets upset about something a friend said at school the previous day. So, I think you and all the dads made great points, but unfortunately, our daughters are like our wives - we try but never really understand what's going in their minds.

 

[Disney Commando]

Happy 4th of July to all the Dads.

Thank You! Fed and all the Dads who have served & who have son's & daughter's serving All your sacrifices make this the Great Nation that it is

 

[chillcoupons]

Happy 4th to all the Dad's and their families.

 

[FreezinRafiki]

This weekend we are going to catch some fireworks on Saturday night (our town always does the 3rd) and again on Sunday night in the next town over. Sunday we are also heading to our friends place for a BBQ. At some point I think we'll take the kids to the fair in town as well.

Hope everyone has a great 4th and enjoys their weekend!

If you need to go for 3 nights in a row, Racine is doing fireworks on the 5th. They have a "Fourthfest" and like to do the parade, fireworks, etc all on the same day. The parade route is lined with churches, so when the 4th falls on a Sunday, they push everything back to the 5th so they don't disrupt any services. Fireworks on the lakefront, 9:20pm.


Thanks everyone for the great information on the Louisville and Bowling Green areas. Some of the stuff sounds wonderful and we're going to try and squeeze in as much as we can while we're down there.

We had a good - and hot Fourth. Lots of time in the pool, two cookouts. And one not so fun trip to the home improvement store for a bunch of patio blocks that DW wants laid down. But all I had to do was unload them. I'll install them another day.

Hope everyone had a safe and a happy holiday and I hope that we all took a little time to reflect on how lucky we are to live in a country with the freedoms that we have. Imagine the cojones it to took to stand up to the king and form a new country. Remember the sacrifices that ordinary men have been giving over the last 234 years in defense of an idea - government of the people, by the people, and for the people. And say a prayer for the people that today are so far away from home and loved ones, working so that people that don't enjoy our freedoms can someday celebrate their own independence day.

 

[ClearScreen]

Just one other thing to add - she is a girl. I did not have this situation, but long story short, a complete screw-up with a upwards basketball thing. I did a long explanation about rules with dd (8), and when I asked if she understood, she said "so, they messed up". I said yes and she went out and played and never mentionned it again. But, she gets upset about something a friend said at school the previous day. So, I think you and all the dads made great points, but unfortunately, our daughters are like our wives - we try but never really understand what's going in their minds.

That's funny and right on the mark. After we explained it to her and told her she had to do her best and show everyone what a good swimmer she is so that the coach will be forced to put her on the A team, she just shrugged and said "I'm going to tell (the other girl) tomorrow that it's OK she's on the A Team even though I beat her." Then she got upset and threw a tantrum because her cousin and brother got an extra turn on a slip 'n slide.

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[ItsDisney]

Hello All... I am brand spanking new to DISboards. Just joined a few moments ago. Wanted to start things off right by joining the Dad's Club.

 

[ItsDisney]

Happy Fourth Of July To All

 

[Disney Commando]

Hello All... I am brand spanking new to DISboards. Just joined a few moments ago. Wanted to start things off right by joining the Dad's Club.

To the Dis Dads Club, Emma's Dad will be around to give you your official member #l

Where are you from

 

[ClearScreen]

Hello All... I am brand spanking new to DISboards. Just joined a few moments ago. Wanted to start things off right by joining the Dad's Club.

Welcome aboard! Emma's Dad will be around at some point to give you your number.

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[ItsDisney]

Hello Back... From Upstate New York.....

 

[ItsDisney]

I will get an official number? Is that the number of members?

 

[Disney Commando]

I will get an official number? Is that the number of members?

Yes, if you go to the 1st page post 7, it has the list of all the Dis Dad members, you can pretty much figure out what your official # will be

 

[ItsDisney]

Thanks Disney Commando...I look forward to meeting Emma Dad and getting my official number. I see part of my Signature is not coming up fully. Tried to fix it. Is there limited space on a signature?

 

[Disney Commando]

What do you have planned for your trip