The demise of unrestricted resorts, by year.

[cruisehopeful]

If in 18 years it's super hard to book everything or I can only stay at SSR then I will just sell it no matter the price.

I still saved thousands in comparison to buying direct and having to sell or not having to sell at all, i still got to stay at way more expensive places (pit, vgf) for nearly 20 years and it was still a great buy at $82 pp compared to Disney directs $215 pp and it served it's purpose in creating family memories for years to come. I do not worry.

Honestly, 18 years is a long time and your travel desires may change. You might actually love SSR at some point!

 

[Girlstar30]

Honestly, 18 years is a long time and your travel desires may change. You might actually love SSR at some point!

This is true, all I know is what's going on right now, and right now i am super excited to be a part of this!!

My wife is looking forward to the tree house villas! She loves camping and nature and she has expressed a real interest in staying there plus it's near the golf course and we are golfers and I love a good spa!

If they ever reopen that thing i can totally see us being right at home there!

 

[supercarrie]

This is true, all I know is what's going on right now, and right now i am super excited to be a part of this!!

My wife is looking forward to the tree house villas! She loves camping and nature and she has expressed a real interest in staying there plus it's near the golf course and we are golfers and I love a good spa!

If they ever reopen that thing i can totally see us being right at home there!

And the treehouses are due a refurb soon!

 

[Girlstar30]

And the treehouses are due a refurb soon!

Would love a Tarzan theme

 

[The Jackal]

Hopefully by 2062 Aulani will have sold out before it expires. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

 

[jolynne28]

Yes, and that is part of the problem. There are a large number of grandfathered resale and an always growing number of direct owners that can trade into ANY other resort at 7 months.

Then there is also a growing number of resale owners that can ONLY book at the remainder of the original 14 resorts. The number of these points will continue to grow when any of these direct contracts from these resorts is sold on the resale market. And then some of these options will STOP being options to trade into as they expire.

The direct owners and grandfathered owners can still book the remaining O14 and any other new resorts. They should be pretty well set.

But the O14 resale owners that can only book the remaining O14 resorts are competing with a growing number of others (more direct buyers + the already grandfathered as well as any more points from the O14 resorts being sold) for a decreasing amount of rooms as resorts close. A rising number of points over time with a decreasing amount of rooms over time will cause availability problems. It's just supply and demand. At the moment of the 2042 resorts closing the problem may ease slightly, then continue with the problem getting worse afterwards

I feel like you aren't accounting for the future restricted resorts that direct owners/grandfathered resale will want to trade into. No one knows how many/what this will look like, but IMO there will be plenty of new and shiny options for swapping and SSR SAP can probably always slide into one of the 7 remaining resorts until 2054, with the exception of maybe peak travel periods.

 

[jolynne28]

The original comment was that nothing is going to be close to Epcot. OKW/SSR are not close to Epcot in WDW terms.

They literally are only accessible via bus and it has multiple stops around your resort on the way.




We go to Epcot almost every evening over the course of our trip. During a stay at AKV as an example we had multiple 40/50+ min waits on busses to/from Epcot. I dont want to deal with trying to get room on a bus (especially if we have a scooter with us) where it might have already filled up at the previous stop.

I would be fine with doing a bus if they were for sure on schedule and you could track the bus like an Amazon delivery driver to know when the next would actually show up by looking on a map with live GPS tracking.

At least with the TTC monorail I am fairly safe on it coming every 20-25 mins if not less. You also are not standing, you don't need to fold up strollers, and always had room for scooters (when we went during our stay at VGF).

Ugh the monorail ranks as our least favorite transportation option. As SSR SAP owners we've stayed nearly everywhere, and visit frequently. Our worst transportation experiences have always been the monorail. It smells like pee, we almost always end up standing, can break down, and it can arrive full just as easily as a bus can. We stayed at VGF a couple of weeks ago and chose to walk to MK over riding the monorail, we hate it that much. I do agree that internal bus loops suck too, so when at SSR we tend to drive to all parks but MK.

 

[jolynne28]

One piece of data I'd love to know is the percentage of DVC guests who have a car, whether rented or their own.

When you have a car, resorts like Old Key West and Fort Wilderness move way up the convenience scale because you can literally park right outside your door and leave exactly when you want to. Still not quite as convenient as walking right to a park, but people often forget the 10 minutes it takes to walk to a bus stop or monorail station when calculating their transit times.

This. FW you literally step outside and walk a few feet to your car. We drive everywhere except MK when staying there, it's so convenient.

 

[atthebeachclub]

This. FW you literally step outside and walk a few feet to your car. We drive everywhere except MK when staying there, it's so convenient.

When my kids get older I might think of renting a car, and those resorts will probably appear even more advantageous (especially when we consider trips to Universal too, which we haven’t done). But for now walkability and using Mears busses and resort transportation wins out, especially since my small 7 year old still uses a booster in cars, and I don’t want to travel with one.

If we were local, or drove to WDW, it would be an entirely different equation!

 

[jolynne28]

When my kids get older I might think of renting a car, and those resorts will probably appear even more advantageous (especially when we consider trips to Universal too, which we haven’t done). But for now walkability and using Mears busses and resort transportation wins out, especially since my small 7 year old still uses a booster in cars, and I don’t want to travel with one.

If we were local, or drove to WDW, it would be an entirely different equation!

Definitely makes a difference if you have to rent a car. For those of us that drive though, it's super convenient. If we flew in I'm sure we'd be solely dependent on Disney transportation and that would change our perspective for stays.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Ugh the monorail ranks as our least favorite transportation option. As SSR SAP owners we've stayed nearly everywhere, and visit frequently. Our worst transportation experiences have always been the monorail. It smells like pee, we almost always end up standing, can break down, and it can arrive full just as easily as a bus can. We stayed at VGF a couple of weeks ago and chose to walk to MK over riding the monorail, we hate it that much. I do agree that internal bus loops suck too, so when at SSR we tend to drive to all parks but MK.

Well this doesnt sound fun.