The DDA Trouble Free Zone Part 2

[Tammi67]

Hope everyone who is sick gets better soon!

Welcome Home Marti and Skunka! Sounds like a nice trip so far..

I had Chick-fil-a while I was visiting my son and his wife. You should have seen me! I tuned through 3 lanes of traffic as soon as I saw the sign!

Tammi, I am an obssessed planner too. Don't get me started! Oh, its okay, I'm already started!!!

First question... I've never stayed at any DVC esorts, so I'm a newbie. Help!!!

I'm going early December. Not interested in swimming. Love going out to eat. Currently I have ressies at my home SSR. Bought it site unseen....

Should I just stay there the week, and leave my sister sleep on the sofa bed. I heard they were the sweedish foam? Anybody confirm?

I would love to be at BWL, just for the resturants that I've never been to. Beaches and Cream, Fying Fish, Cape May Buffet... ESPN (is that non-smoking??) Walk to EPCOT and Le Cellier, Rose and Crown, French place....

Or... should I do OKW for the 2 queen beds? I understand it is quite there, but will she see any Disney? SSR has the view of DTD. BWL has the Boardwalk and EPCOT amd MGM, the little boats.... All that jazzd.

What does OKW have that makes it Disney??? From what I've seen, it looks like Florida, but golf course type..... Key Westy type Florida, not WDW Florida... I think.... Will we be immersed in the magic there? It is actually my firstchoice. Lowest points. 2 queen beds. Good transportation. Is it far, far away from everything???

Oh, I need help.......

Help me.

We took the DVC tour of SSR. It is beautiful, and the newest, so the rooms are going to be the nicest, one would think. The sofa beds there are on box springs, so it's not like a "couch bed". At least that is what they told us. It sounds like it should be comfy. We are currently booked at SSR for Oct., but I am hoping to get into the boardwalk area when my 7 month window opens, for the reasons you mentioned. Plus it is Food/Wine time too. Eventually I hope to make my way through all the resorts, just to try them on and see which fits the best.

 

[Tammi67]

Marti and Paul welcome back! Thanks for the mini trip reports! It really gets us excited for next week! Brother and SIL are coming with us and promised to take DD out one night. So we are looking forward to a relaxing dinner out alone also.
PD to all the sick folks out there. I am staying away... can't get sick...can't get sick
DD was sick all last week... I was never so thankful that it was then and not one week from now. She is all better now and even more excited for her birthday to get here.
Congrats to all the new moms and dads to be. I am sure 2006 will be a great year for all.

Tom - I am so excited for you and your family and can't wait until you get back to hear all about it. The new picture of your DD is adorable. That outfit rocks!

 

[my3princes]

Hello everyone. I could use some kind thoughts. I have a meeting with my DD's principal today.

Here's the story:

Tuesday night I had meetings from 5-8pm for work. My mother was babysitting and supervised my DD's (10) homework.

We took the kids home and DD left her backpack in the car because she didn't need it til the following morning. Well, when my husband was unstrapping our DS's from their car seats, her backpack got knocked over and her math book fell out. My DD and I were already in the house and she had gone straight to bed before he even got in with our DS's. He told me that he thought some of her books had fallen out of her backpack and asked me to remind her to put them back in.

Skip to Wednesday morning. I forgot to tell her that some of her things had fallen out of the backpack. I took her to school and we had a good morning.

She had a subsitute teacher that day. Apparently, she got in trouble for not having her math book (my fault, and I wrote a note to the teacher explaining such) for which she had to "pull a strip" for discipline. But then they got to the language homework to check it. A little boy in the class was "classroom helper". He does not like my DD. He told the substitute that my DD did not have her language homework, yet she DID have it.

The substitute tells my DD to pull another strip for this homework she supposedly did not have (and for which my mother remembers doing with her and my DD says she absolutely does have). Well, my DD will not comply with the substitute. She tells the sub that she did have her homework so she won't pull a strip and that the classroom helper was lying. The sub says she's going to tell my DD's teacher about her behavior.

Skip to Thursday. DD has PE in the morning first thing, and right after that she was sent to the office by her regular teacher for "disrespecting a teacher". Down at the office she is confronted by the Principal who tells her to confess to lying about having her homework. (Remember, my mother had checked her homework and knows that she had it. This wasn't one of the books that fell out.) The Principal gets no where with this because DD will not admit to not having her homework and insists that she did.

So he tells her to bend over and put her nose to the doorknob until she is "ready to tell the truth". She is left in this position for over an hour. Eventually lunch comes around and she is able to eat, however she has to eat in the office. After lunch, the Principal threatens to call her parents if she doesn't comply. Again she denies not having her homework and says the classroom helper lied about it.

He puts her back to the doorknob for another 1/2 an hour or so. Finally, her teacher sends down work for her to do via another child and DD is let out of this humiliating and painful position.

An hour before school gets out she is finally allowed back into the classroom. She brings home a note from her Principal stating we need to meet this morning at 8:30 am regarding her "disrespect of a teacher".

So, today we get to go see him. Yay.

My husband is livid. Even if she was guilty of the homework thing, he thinks (and this raised a red flag for me too) that a male in position of power over a young girl has no business having her bend over with her nose to a doorknob for hours on end. We can certainly see having her sit quietly or even stand facing a wall as punishment. We do not at all agree with the bending over, "sweating it out of her" method. This is regardless of guilt or innocence.

Let me just say that DD is certainly no angel. I can say without bragging that she's the smartest kid in her class. However, she does have social issues. She's not popular. She IS outgoing, but she has impulse issues and can be annoying, to be honest, with the other kids. She also has a problem with lying. But in this instance, I believe her. All the evidence that I've witnessed points in her favor. I don't believe it's fair to assume she is always lying just because she has lied a few times.

At any rate, this is my saga. I just hope things go well and that DD hasn't left out any really important details that will embarass us. OTOH, I hope that my husband can control his temper regarding the punishment. He was on the verge of tears over this and he almost never cries. Our plan is to hear out the Principal before we jump to any more conclusions and blow our stacks.

I won't be able to read any replies til I get back. I just needed to vent. Thanks for your time and good wishes.

Wow, I hope everything went well. That punishment is totally out of line for the suspected lying. I would chew that principle a nes a$$ and it would be brought to the school board's attention. I am not a complainer in any sense of the word, but don't mess with my kids. That could have a huge impact on her self esteem. I know it is too late to wish you luck. But that principle needs to be dealt with.

Deb

 

[tinknme]

Dawn Congratulations! Another baby on the way, how exciting

Marti looks like you had a wonderful time. When we were at AK it was the 1st day for cm to test ride EE. They had it roped off & we could not get near it We were bummed, oh well something new for the next trip Just so you know, I did see ITTBAB All that worrying for nothing lol I also enjoyed my 1st dole whip on this trip, I see lots more in my future

Midnite I would be livid myself! I hope you get this resolved today, I honestly do not think I could be as calm. Here is some to help you all through the day.

I am feeling better today Hope eveyone else that has the sickies gets better soon! Ds lost a tooth yesterday & beings I will ill I forgot to leave him some money. Now ds is upset that his tooth is still here. Opps! I will make it up to him though,I just feel bad

 

[Tammi67]

Hello everyone. I could use some kind thoughts. I have a meeting with my DD's principal today.

Here's the story:

Tuesday night I had meetings from 5-8pm for work. My mother was babysitting and supervised my DD's (10) homework.

We took the kids home and DD left her backpack in the car because she didn't need it til the following morning. Well, when my husband was unstrapping our DS's from their car seats, her backpack got knocked over and her math book fell out. My DD and I were already in the house and she had gone straight to bed before he even got in with our DS's. He told me that he thought some of her books had fallen out of her backpack and asked me to remind her to put them back in.

Skip to Wednesday morning. I forgot to tell her that some of her things had fallen out of the backpack. I took her to school and we had a good morning.

She had a subsitute teacher that day. Apparently, she got in trouble for not having her math book (my fault, and I wrote a note to the teacher explaining such) for which she had to "pull a strip" for discipline. But then they got to the language homework to check it. A little boy in the class was "classroom helper". He does not like my DD. He told the substitute that my DD did not have her language homework, yet she DID have it.

The substitute tells my DD to pull another strip for this homework she supposedly did not have (and for which my mother remembers doing with her and my DD says she absolutely does have). Well, my DD will not comply with the substitute. She tells the sub that she did have her homework so she won't pull a strip and that the classroom helper was lying. The sub says she's going to tell my DD's teacher about her behavior.

Skip to Thursday. DD has PE in the morning first thing, and right after that she was sent to the office by her regular teacher for "disrespecting a teacher". Down at the office she is confronted by the Principal who tells her to confess to lying about having her homework. (Remember, my mother had checked her homework and knows that she had it. This wasn't one of the books that fell out.) The Principal gets no where with this because DD will not admit to not having her homework and insists that she did.

So he tells her to bend over and put her nose to the doorknob until she is "ready to tell the truth". She is left in this position for over an hour. Eventually lunch comes around and she is able to eat, however she has to eat in the office. After lunch, the Principal threatens to call her parents if she doesn't comply. Again she denies not having her homework and says the classroom helper lied about it.

He puts her back to the doorknob for another 1/2 an hour or so. Finally, her teacher sends down work for her to do via another child and DD is let out of this humiliating and painful position.

An hour before school gets out she is finally allowed back into the classroom. She brings home a note from her Principal stating we need to meet this morning at 8:30 am regarding her "disrespect of a teacher".

So, today we get to go see him. Yay.

My husband is livid. Even if she was guilty of the homework thing, he thinks (and this raised a red flag for me too) that a male in position of power over a young girl has no business having her bend over with her nose to a doorknob for hours on end. We can certainly see having her sit quietly or even stand facing a wall as punishment. We do not at all agree with the bending over, "sweating it out of her" method. This is regardless of guilt or innocence.

Let me just say that DD is certainly no angel. I can say without bragging that she's the smartest kid in her class. However, she does have social issues. She's not popular. She IS outgoing, but she has impulse issues and can be annoying, to be honest, with the other kids. She also has a problem with lying. But in this instance, I believe her. All the evidence that I've witnessed points in her favor. I don't believe it's fair to assume she is always lying just because she has lied a few times.

At any rate, this is my saga. I just hope things go well and that DD hasn't left out any really important details that will embarass us. OTOH, I hope that my husband can control his temper regarding the punishment. He was on the verge of tears over this and he almost never cries. Our plan is to hear out the Principal before we jump to any more conclusions and blow our stacks.

I won't be able to read any replies til I get back. I just needed to vent. Thanks for your time and good wishes.

I am so sorry that you are going through this. I totally agree with you about this humiliating punishment. I am glad your daughter stuck to her guns though and didn't admit to something that she was not guilty of. But if she did do it, why didn't she just produce it for the teacher? Or was it missing, too? I hope things went well and you were able to resolve all the issues with the school. If not, I would be all over that school board, and the media would certainly hear of it. Keep us posted.

 

[tinknme]

I slept on the pull out bed at the BWV. It was very comfy.

The sofa beds there are on box springs, so it's not like a "couch bed". At least that is what they told us. It sounds like it should be comfy.

 

[bethbuchall]

Hello everyone. I could use some kind thoughts. I have a meeting with my DD's principal today.

Here's the story:

Tuesday night I had meetings from 5-8pm for work. My mother was babysitting and supervised my DD's (10) homework.

We took the kids home and DD left her backpack in the car because she didn't need it til the following morning. Well, when my husband was unstrapping our DS's from their car seats, her backpack got knocked over and her math book fell out. My DD and I were already in the house and she had gone straight to bed before he even got in with our DS's. He told me that he thought some of her books had fallen out of her backpack and asked me to remind her to put them back in.

Skip to Wednesday morning. I forgot to tell her that some of her things had fallen out of the backpack. I took her to school and we had a good morning.

She had a subsitute teacher that day. Apparently, she got in trouble for not having her math book (my fault, and I wrote a note to the teacher explaining such) for which she had to "pull a strip" for discipline. But then they got to the language homework to check it. A little boy in the class was "classroom helper". He does not like my DD. He told the substitute that my DD did not have her language homework, yet she DID have it.

The substitute tells my DD to pull another strip for this homework she supposedly did not have (and for which my mother remembers doing with her and my DD says she absolutely does have). Well, my DD will not comply with the substitute. She tells the sub that she did have her homework so she won't pull a strip and that the classroom helper was lying. The sub says she's going to tell my DD's teacher about her behavior.

Skip to Thursday. DD has PE in the morning first thing, and right after that she was sent to the office by her regular teacher for "disrespecting a teacher". Down at the office she is confronted by the Principal who tells her to confess to lying about having her homework. (Remember, my mother had checked her homework and knows that she had it. This wasn't one of the books that fell out.) The Principal gets no where with this because DD will not admit to not having her homework and insists that she did.

So he tells her to bend over and put her nose to the doorknob until she is "ready to tell the truth". She is left in this position for over an hour. Eventually lunch comes around and she is able to eat, however she has to eat in the office. After lunch, the Principal threatens to call her parents if she doesn't comply. Again she denies not having her homework and says the classroom helper lied about it.

He puts her back to the doorknob for another 1/2 an hour or so. Finally, her teacher sends down work for her to do via another child and DD is let out of this humiliating and painful position.

An hour before school gets out she is finally allowed back into the classroom. She brings home a note from her Principal stating we need to meet this morning at 8:30 am regarding her "disrespect of a teacher".

So, today we get to go see him. Yay.

My husband is livid. Even if she was guilty of the homework thing, he thinks (and this raised a red flag for me too) that a male in position of power over a young girl has no business having her bend over with her nose to a doorknob for hours on end. We can certainly see having her sit quietly or even stand facing a wall as punishment. We do not at all agree with the bending over, "sweating it out of her" method. This is regardless of guilt or innocence.

Let me just say that DD is certainly no angel. I can say without bragging that she's the smartest kid in her class. However, she does have social issues. She's not popular. She IS outgoing, but she has impulse issues and can be annoying, to be honest, with the other kids. She also has a problem with lying. But in this instance, I believe her. All the evidence that I've witnessed points in her favor. I don't believe it's fair to assume she is always lying just because she has lied a few times.

At any rate, this is my saga. I just hope things go well and that DD hasn't left out any really important details that will embarass us. OTOH, I hope that my husband can control his temper regarding the punishment. He was on the verge of tears over this and he almost never cries. Our plan is to hear out the Principal before we jump to any more conclusions and blow our stacks.

I won't be able to read any replies til I get back. I just needed to vent. Thanks for your time and good wishes.

That punishment would have been absolutely unnacceptable to me no matter what the circumstances. It sounds like you have a good plan, and I hope that you are able to remain calm and professional. That certainly isn't easy when one of your kids is hurt, though. I'm sending pixie dust your way even though you won't know about it until you get back. We have an absolute witch of a principal in our elementary school, and we're all hoping she retires at the end of this year.

Beth

 

[bethbuchall]

I am feeling better today Hope eveyone else that has the sickies gets better soon! Ds lost a tooth yesterday & beings I will ill I forgot to leave him some money. Now ds is upset that his tooth is still here. Opps! I will make it up to him though,I just feel bad

I am glad that you are feeling better! Ds lost his first tooth the other day. Since my older ds is 14, I told him to double-check that the tooth fairy remembered to come for me. Marti may have lost her brain cells after 42, but mine seem to have departed me earlier!

Beth

 

[Steamboat Marti]

Midnite - where I live there is no tolerance for humiliating punishments and in this case it appears that the principal should be the one in trouble. I'd raise such a stink that my kid was punished this way -- they would be wishing to be transferred to another school district. The school board should be notified IMMEDIATELY of the punishment and I would try to get a hold of the schools booklet on acceptable punishments. There has to be one for every school - its the thing that also tells you what is acceptable to wear etc... DON'T accept this unacceptable behavior from a person in charge. If you have any friends on the PTA board, get them involved too. My kid is no where near an angle either - but I wouldn't stand for it.

Please let us know how you did.

 

[Steamboat Marti]

Just so you know, I did see ITTBAB All that worrying for nothing lol I also enjoyed my 1st dole whip on this trip, I see lots more in my future

I'm so glad you went on ITTBAB - cute show isn't it? I loved the picture of you with the bug glasses. Those kind of pictures are my favorite kind of vacation pictures! It shows what kind of fun you were having.

Here's a mini recap of our trip:

Sunday: Arrive, head to MK for a Dole Whip
Monday: Head to MK for a Dole Whip
Tuesday: Head to MK for a Dole Whip while wearing a birthday button
Wednesday: Head to MK and have TWO Dole Whips - after all we will be leaving and don't know how long it will be until we get another one!!

 

[UP Disney]

Hey Paul, are you lurking out there? We need our song of the day.

 

[UP Disney]

I'm so glad you went on ITTBAB - cute show isn't it? I loved the picture of you with the bug glasses. Those kind of pictures are my favorite kind of vacation pictures! It shows what kind of fun you were having.

Here's a mini recap of our trip:

Sunday: Arrive, head to MK for a Dole Whip
Monday: Head to MK for a Dole Whip
Tuesday: Head to MK for a Dole Whip while wearing a birthday button
Wednesday: Head to MK and have TWO Dole Whips - after all we will be leaving and don't know how long it will be until we get another one!!

My DH saw info on these posted somewhere a couple months ago and told me we have to try them. Since my DDA friends are also singing their praises, I will definitely give one a try while we are there in March.

 

[lmartin2711]

This made me think of something a coworker once told me when we were talking about family planning. He said, if everyone waited to have kids until they could afford them, we would never have any. For some reason that always stuck with me, being so true. We think we can't afford them, but we can't afford not to have them.

My mom told me the same thing. I was concerned about starting a family....way back when. I told her I wanted to wait until I could afford to stay home. She said if you wait until you can afford it you will never have them. Today I am celebrating DS, Austin, 12th birthday. I am glad I took my mom's advice.

Lynn

 

[lmartin2711]

Since I now know that you are trying to catch up to me, let me post again.

And just for the record, your days out of town don't matter. I was ahead before you left.

ooohhhh.... I heard that one!!! Are you sticking it to our Queen??

 

[UP Disney]

ooohhhh.... I heard that one!!! Are you sticking it to our Queen??

She better be careful. Queen's can be known to say "Off with her head!".

 

[tinknme]

I love it!

Here's a mini recap of our trip:

Sunday: Arrive, head to MK for a Dole Whip
Monday: Head to MK for a Dole Whip
Tuesday: Head to MK for a Dole Whip while wearing a birthday button
Wednesday: Head to MK and have TWO Dole Whips - after all we will be leaving and don't know how long it will be until we get another one!!

 

[tink2020]

Thank you everyone for my Birthday wishes!! DH took me to dinner and a play, so we just got home. The play was very different, a dark comedy called Vigil. Anyway we had a good night.

Kate, congrats on post 5000, and I hope you feel better soon.

And lastly, I just received a very upsetting e-mail when I got home tonight. A friend that I have known for almost all my life is in the last stages of melanoma. They were advised today to begin end of life planning. They have 3 boys ages 15, 18 and 21, that my boys have been friends with over the years. She has been through more than you can imagine, including having both of her feet amputated in November due to a blood infection she got while her immune system was knocked out for a treatment. Anyway, they have been through so much, and now I believe it is time for it to end. It is so sad, and yet inevitable from what I understand. And I suppose it is time for the suffering to end for her, and for her family to try to begin to heal. But it is still just so incredibly sad and hard for me to comprehend. Well, I just needed to get that out.

I need to go to bed.

Prayers and pixie dust for her family, and for yours as well!

 

[tink2020]

Hi all- we arrived home very late tonight -- taking my dad to the airport in the morning.... I'll let you know how our trip was later today. We're exhausted!!!

WELCOME HOME!

 

[lmartin2711]

Midnite - where I live there is no tolerance for humiliating punishments and in this case it appears that the principal should be the one in trouble. I'd raise such a stink that my kid was punished this way -- they would be wishing to be transferred to another school district. The school board should be notified IMMEDIATELY of the punishment and I would try to get a hold of the schools booklet on acceptable punishments. There has to be one for every school - its the thing that also tells you what is acceptable to wear etc... DON'T accept this unacceptable behavior from a person in charge. If you have any friends on the PTA board, get them involved too. My kid is no where near an angle either - but I wouldn't stand for it.

Please let us know how you did.

DITTO, DITTO, DITTO.....I AGREE 100% This is not the correct way to handle a problem with a student. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong. Especially from the Principal. I would defenitely raise this to the next level. Let us know how the meeting turns out.

Lynn

 

[tink2020]

Sounds like a really bad migraine and reaction to the smoke. Take your migraine meds, drink caffeine, and rest. For the smell, have you washed all the sheets, clothes, etc? Also use Febreeze spray on anything you've been near. Smoke is terribly hard to get out of fabric, so you'll need to air it out. It may take a week or so for it to 'fade'. In the meantime, you can put a gel (lipgloss, vick's vapor rub, etc) under your nose to mask the smell and introduce a more pleasant aroma. Yes, Vicks isn't pleasant, but it should cover up the smoke smell and help clear out your sinuses!

So Denise, did you (or people you know) have to utilize this trick for stinky hospital rooms, too?!