The Current Disneyland Annual Pass Program Has Been Cancelled

Has anyone contacted Disney to ask about cancelled/expired credit cards and refunds? I assume they’ll send a check out to the address on file if they can’t refund to the original payment method, but I’m curious if anyone has inquired about that since I don’t feel like calling :p

For the life of me I can’t remember which MasterCard I used, and neither of them now match the same last four digits that my FlexPass order confirmation shows which probably means both cards have expired and had issued me a new card... but I haven’t seen any automatic refunds yet. Not worried yet, but wondering what time line I should wait before getting involved with a call.
 
Now that it’s pretty obvious that all passes will require reservations, I wonder how they will allocate them.

Do day tickets and AP tickets share the same reservation pools? Are they separate pools? Will day tickets have reservation pools when capacity returns to normal?

I think the cleanest way forward is that passes have a reservation pool, day tickets do not, if day ticket sales are light then day of reservations open up for the passes for people who still want the ability to head down to the parks after work or whatever.
 
Has anyone contacted Disney to ask about cancelled/expired credit cards and refunds? I assume they’ll send a check out to the address on file if they can’t refund to the original payment method, but I’m curious if anyone has inquired about that since I don’t feel like calling :p

For the life of me I can’t remember which MasterCard I used, and neither of them now match the same last four digits that my FlexPass order confirmation shows which probably means both cards have expired and had issued me a new card... but I haven’t seen any automatic refunds yet. Not worried yet, but wondering what time line I should wait before getting involved with a call.

Unless you actually closed an account, all should go through to the correct card. Keyword: should, lol.

My situation is I used Card A because Card B had a broken chip (and the system wouldn't let me use NFC payment or swipe Card B.). I called later (after a few payments on Card A) to get the account switched to Card B.

Card B has never been charged according to my statements because pandemic.

Card B somehow had its number stolen and had to be issued a replacement number. Card B2. I still had some unrelated refunds coming to Card B and they just posted to Card B2 since the account wasn't closed, just the number changed. My bank does label these as being for the old Card B number on my statements. My bank was very specific that all refunds would still post to my account even if they were for the old number. Only charges would be denied.

So my point is as long as the account is active, even if the number on the account is different, it should still post to the same card account. Same basic thing with expired cards: the account still exists. You're just issued an updated card to the same account. The only time you should run into an issue is if the account is closed.

I would look back at old statements to figure out which card had the payments and exactly how much has been spent too.

In my case I'm guessing it should go to Card A. But there's a chance it might go to Card B (and in turn Card B2).
 
As a AP for the first time in 2019, and living in Texas, we planned to use our passes for about 4 trips per year, mostly long weekends when the kids were off school or summer. We had Flex Passes, and tried to make the best of the reservations system, but only being able to book 2 reservations, and only 30 days in advance, was very stressful. We fly to DLR, stay in the GCH and usually would like 4 days in the parks with hoppers and Max Pass being must-haves. We also love Photopass.

Based on the survey posted above, our priorities would be:
*Not blocked out during school breaks, summer, holidays
*Number of days that can be reserved at a time (minimum 3, would love 4+ and would pay more for that option)
*How far in advance we can reserve days (since we fly, we can't be uncertain about park reservations 30-60 days out)
*MaxPass (would be ok if we had to pay to add this on)
*Preferential reservations access or lifting of block out days if staying in a Disney hotel (because this makes them a lot of money compared to those staying off site or locals not staying on their property)

Since we fly in and don't rent a car since we stay at DLR the entire trip, parking is not important at all (I understand parking is a KEY consideration for locals, as it adds up in a hurry). I hope they make "free" parking an add-on so that we won't have to pay for it (and agree with OP that children under age 16 should not have to pay for parking in their passes since they clearly can't drive!). Food, beverage and merchandise discounts are nice, but I would need to do the math to see if that option was worth it for us (if they do as in the past, maybe only one member of our family would get a higher priced pass which would include these discounts, and then that person would do all of the purchasing; this works for us since we are always all there at the same time; it might not work for others). Friends and family discount would be ok but I don't think we would really use it. Discounts at the Disney hotels would be very appealing to me, since we always stay at the GCH (but this would not be important to folks who can drive in from their homes).

A dedicated AP entrance would be great as long as it was staffed to the number of APs versus day-ticket holders.

The "rewards program" mentioned has not been brought up much here. It is proposed to reward a person for food, beverage and merchandise purchases. I personally think that DLR wants to attract guests that spend on hotels, food, beverage, experiences and merchandise. This drives up the revenue generated per visit per guest. This is not as predictable as it might appear; some think locals don't generate revenue but out of towners do. I think there are people in both groups who spend a lot of money with Disney (either cumulatively over many visits per year for the dedicated local versus over a short visit for a tourist). For the tourists that don't spend as much on food/bev/merch, they hope to get you on the hotel. If you stay offsite, they lose that. So I foresee some perks for staying onsite, which could be a plus for locals who stay onsite and/or tourists. I think they will try to price a pass for locals that visit weekly or more such that it has revenue in the cost of the pass to offset those guests that spend little money in the park over many visits. On these boards, we have many diehard Disney fans who are AP holders (myself included!) who are more likely to buy the AP popcorn buckets, sippers, Dooneys, Pandora charms, etc etc. But I believe in the overall pool of local Disney AP holders, those dedicated big spenders are outnumbered by casual fans who drop in for a while when they are able, but who are not dropping loads of money on merch, food, and experiences. I hope they find a way to make a pass that reflects those two different populations of locals so they can both be happy and Disney can still remain profitable.
 

I have seen several blog posts with 3 options from Disneyland. A $1000 option, a $1200 option and a $1400 option. All offer very limited admission in a 30, 60, or 90-day window. I am very discouraged by this. I was wondering what others think. Also, have you done the questionnaire for Disney yet?
 
I have seen several blog posts with 3 options from Disneyland. A $1000 option, a $1200 option and a $1400 option. All offer very limited admission in a 30, 60, or 90-day window. I am very discouraged by this. I was wondering what others think. Also, have you done the questionnaire for Disney yet?
This is based off of a survey and they misunderstood what was being asked, the options at these price points all required reservations and you could make 2, 4 or 6 at a time anywhere from 30 to 90 days in advance, but there were no limits on the number of visits in a year. They did have varying number of anytime tickets that would allow you to make a reservation on days where there was no availability and a varying number of blackout date tickets. Also the prices went anywhere from $300 to $1400 depending on which questions you got. Blackout dates varied from a lot to absolutely none. But I'm all cases there were no good to go dates, at.least.on the version I got.

In a fairness to the bloggers the survey was overly.complicares and worded poorly, but along with the 1 to 12 day ticket options there were always options with unlimited.cisita, but at first glance didn't appear that way.
 
This is based off of a survey and they misunderstood what was being asked, the options at these price points all required reservations and you could make 2, 4 or 6 at a time anywhere from 30 to 90 days in advance, but there were no limits on the number of visits in a year. They did have varying number of anytime tickets that would allow you to make a reservation on days where there was no availability and a varying number of blackout date tickets. Also the prices went anywhere from $300 to $1400 depending on which questions you got. Blackout dates varied from a lot to absolutely none. But I'm all cases there were no good to go dates, at.least.on the version I got.

In a fairness to the bloggers the survey was overly.complicares and worded poorly, but along with the 1 to 12 day ticket options there were always options with unlimited.cisita, but at first glance didn't appear that way.
At WDW, when you use a reservation, you can make another. (I have a Premier AP and plan to renew it to a WDW AP.) If they would let us do that, I would not be as panicked. But, if they limit our reservations to 2,4, or 6 only within 90 days, that would not be acceptable and too much money for a few visits.
 
Has anyone contacted Disney to ask about cancelled/expired credit cards and refunds? I assume they’ll send a check out to the address on file if they can’t refund to the original payment method, but I’m curious if anyone has inquired about that since I don’t feel like calling :p

For the life of me I can’t remember which MasterCard I used, and neither of them now match the same last four digits that my FlexPass order confirmation shows which probably means both cards have expired and had issued me a new card... but I haven’t seen any automatic refunds yet. Not worried yet, but wondering what time line I should wait before getting involved with a call.
The Disneyland AP refund page says if the refund can’t go back to the purchasing credit card, a check willl be mailed to the billing address provided at time of kurdhsse or renewal.

https://disneyland.disney.go.com/annual-passholder-refund-information/
 
Now that it’s pretty obvious that all passes will require reservations, I wonder how they will allocate them.

Do day tickets and AP tickets share the same reservation pools? Are they separate pools? Will day tickets have reservation pools when capacity returns to normal?

I think the cleanest way forward is that passes have a reservation pool, day tickets do not, if day ticket sales are light then day of reservations open up for the passes for people who still want the ability to head down to the parks after work or whatever.
At WDW there are three reservation buckets - one for APs, one for hotel guests, and one for ticket holders not in the other two buckets.
 
The park reservation system is a temporary necessity because of COVID. I think California may even institute the vaccination passport early enough that it would coincide with the park opening to the point where DL could open with that requirement. A lot of CEOs have been touting the vaccination passport as the only way to get back to normalcy and open air travel, Broadway, movie theaters and large venues effectively. That being said, I think this membership program will mirror memberships of specialty fitness centers like cycle studios or CrossFit. Something like:

$200/month for 4 visits/month
$225 for 5
$250 for 6
$275 for 7
$300 for unlimited

Add ons for max pass, parking,, park hopping, etc...

Loyalty type system tracking purchases to offer discounts on meals, rooms, merchandise.

I have only been to DL once in February last year and I was so surprised to see the atmosphere in the park. In a weird way it felt more like a local children’s museum with parents taking their kids for a few hours in the day, maybe getting lunch, going home. It was nice not having to worry about planning months and months in advance like I do for WDW.
 
From ITM: https://**************.net/2021/01/disneyland-annual-pass-survey-rwb1/

I hadn't noticed before that the survey included both adult and child prices for the APs.
 
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Commentary: COVID took away Disneyland’s annual pass program. How to bring it back better
By TODD MARTENSGAME CRITIC
JAN. 23, 2021
7 AM
Last March, during one of the final times I dined out before the pandemic shutdowns, I threw down my Disneyland annual pass along with my debit card when the bill arrived. It was an instinctual action, one that would ensure I would receive the 15% discount that came with my $1,449 Signature Plus pass.

Except I wasn’t at Disneyland.

The bartender at the downtown Los Angeles restaurant jokingly asked if the Disneyland pass was my idea of an extravagant tip. Little did we know that its value would soon be rendered useless.

The Walt Disney Co. announced last week that it was ending the annual pass program as it currently exists, with a plan to regroup someday with “membership” offerings. It’s a huge shift in Disneyland culture — many Southern Californians grew up with daily, weekly or monthly visits to the park during the nearly four decades the passes have been in existence.

For me, growing up in Chicago, trips to Walt Disney World as a child were an every-other-year luxury. It was a place where the very sight of a monorail among Florida greenery spurred the imagination of a curious kid and allowed a crushingly shy boy to come out of his shell and dream of possibility.

When I moved to Los Angeles, Disneyland, thanks largely to its annual pass program, became a place of community and comfort. Often I’d bring a laptop to Disneyland or California Adventure and work there once or twice per week. As counterintuitive as it sounds, on deadline days I’m still most efficient at Disneyland, a place that allows my mind to relax and reminds me that wonder only belongs to childhood if we let ourselves forget what it means to be playful.

Now, after a year of uncertainty and anxiety about COVID-19, Disneyland fans have a bit more unpredictability, as well as the realization if it wasn’t already clear, that the effects of the pandemic will likely live with us for years to come.

Even without knowing how many passholders exist, it was clear that the program could not go on without modifications. When theme parks get the go-ahead from California to reopen, they will do so with a reservation-only system and heavily reduced capacity. Right now, the only lines on Disneyland property are for COVID vaccines, which offer the hope that we will return to normalcy or near to it. But the timeline depends on supply and distribution as well as adoption by those who are vaccine-hesitant.

Thus, my first reaction when Disneyland axed the annual pass program was relief. Then later, concern.

Relief, because visiting the parks during a pandemic is not on my to-do list, nor did I want to dump money into a pass I wouldn’t use. The little time I spent last year at Downtown Disney and in the shops and eateries of Disney California Adventure’s Buena Vista Street was enough to persuade me to stay away. The experiences felt forced, more stress-inducing than relaxing with my attention hyper-focused on the mask and distancing behavior of other guests rather than my surroundings.

Still, as we’ve seen throughout this pandemic, peoples’ comfort levels vary greatly. If Disneyland opens at 25% capacity — and if estimates that the park has about 1 million passholders are correct — Disney had a mess on its hands. The vast majority of those who paid for access wouldn’t have it and would probably feel entitled that they did.

Halting the so-called “AP” program was the right move. So too is the decision to revamp it.

There has long been growing consensus that the AP program, introduced in the early 1980s, was in need of change. The familiar complaint among a large segment of the Disney fan community is that APs lead to overcrowding, creating a lesser park experience for all. For instance, I learned to avoid the park on Sunday afternoons when many pass tiers were often unblocked and crowding reached claustrophobic levels.

Once, I made the mistake of attending on a Dapper Day when tens of thousands of Disneyland guests dress in vintage cocktail attire; it happened to coincide with a day all passes were unblocked. “Why are you here?” asked a Disney cast member I knew. “Dapper Day, plus no block-out day? This is Disneyland pandemonium!” She wasn’t wrong.

But ways to fix this — to essentially spread local attendance throughout the year so that company and consumer interests align — often result in brute, uncomfortable, classist solutions. Some say Disney should cut the monthly payment program because distributing the cost of a pass throughout 12 months creates the illusion of a lower price and, goes the argument, turns Disneyland into a backyard for those who live near it.

They should not, under any circumstance, do this. Not ever.

People should not be punished for exploring their passions. It’s also out of step with how we purchase everything from streaming services to smartphone plans and fails to recognize the economic realities of younger generations that can’t afford other possibilities. Many in their late 20s and 30s are still dealing with the after-effects of the Great Recession and now there is a pandemic thrown on top of it.

The success of a theme park also depends on the attendance of all generations. Tickets sold to 20-somethings today are essentially tickets sold to a family in 20 years. Older adults have nothing to feel nostalgic for if they are priced out and don’t go to begin with. Disneyland’s annual pass program was already on this dangerous path, one set entirely on price increases rather than perks. Eliminating monthly payments would turn the parks into a playground for Boomers, Instagram creators and rich folks.

And make no mistake, the AP program is in many ways still vital, especially at an urban locale that doesn’t have Walt Disney World’s hotel capacity or its four theme parks and activities to encourage week-long stays. The annual pass changed my appreciation of theme parks, allowing them at long last to be seen as Disney’s designers intended. No longer was Disneyland a check-list of things to do in an exhausting 10-hour day that’s ultimately little-to-zero fun for anyone.

What’s more, much of Disneyland is reliant on either those taking extended vacations or in their absence, locals who regularly return. All-encompassing lands such as Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge, which not only has rides but a game on a mobile app that encourages guests to play and engage with the space over time, depend on those who come to hang out rather than hit two rides and bolt.

At Walt Disney World, such activities or even food and wine festivals, can be worked into week-long vacations. In Anaheim, situated in a region with many of the nation’s finest restaurants, art institutions and national parks, such accouterments depend on a robust and accessible program that invites locals to return.

Even the upcoming Avengers Campus is clearly designed with a “local’s park” in mind. The relatively small land is fashioned less as an otherworldly place and more as a SoCal college campus complete with what is more or less a mini beer garden (no offense to the size of Ant-Man and Wasp, for whom the bar is themed).

The conventional wisdom is that hotel guests are more desirable than annual passport holders since over time they spend more money. But that is somewhat outdated blunt marketing thinking — out-of-step with not only what Disneyland represents to SoCal, which will forever be its primary market, but also today’s financially strapped, experience-focused consumers. Increasingly, we’re looking for personalization in our entertainment, changes we’ve seen develop over time amid an own-less, stream-on-demand lifestyle.

Look for guidance at the shift in season ticket programs for sporting events. The Dodgers, for instance, offer a program geared toward those who want limited merch such as bobbleheads as well as one focused on those who want discounts versus those who want more flexibility. This is likely the path forward for Disneyland. The gargantuan Disneyland AP program lacked such personalization, resulting in broadly sweeping tiers based on block-out days rather than specifically tailoring passes to the different ways in which fans engage with the parks.

Even as someone who went 30 to 40 days per year, I started to question the value of a near $1,500 pass that failed to offer the broader sense of connection that I get with my theater and museum memberships, access to events and the ability to regularly meet others who are also passionate about the theme parks. I keep going back to one quote from Disneyland Resort President Ken Potrock in a call with reporters last week, as he was foreshadowing membership programs that are specifically targeted at guest interests rather than calendar dates.

“We want to make sure that we’re creating a program that’s understandable, but at the same time delivers on great value, and that can be things that’s not just clicks at the turnstile,” Potrock said, breaking down “benefits” as things that include “parking or discounts.”

Memberships that come with an assortment of perks — some with merch discounts, some without, some with dining discounts, some without, some with access to after-hours ticketed Halloween events, some without — are easy to imagine. The fear is that Disney goes more of an a la carte route rather than creating robust packages.

Or worse, that the equivalent of the near-daily access of the Signature pass becomes something akin to a poor man’s Club 33, Disneyland’s high-priced private club. Those who have ever been to an “AP-only” lounge at Disneyland know that zero exclusivity is better than exclusivity done cheaply.

But on the surface, programs that offer more control over when people visit — expect a much more robust reservation system rather than lists of block-out days — and can include a couple of the current passholder perks that are most important to certain guests, isn’t a bad idea. Reservations even offer a flexibility that a pure calendar-based system does not and allow Disney to constantly adjust throughout the year, with some memberships based more on spontaneity and some focused more on advanced planning.

The goal should be a park that is full constantly, claustrophobic rarely — if ever — and allows current passholders to find a membership that lines up with their current access and price, with some perks that make it feel a little more tailored to one’s interests. And also, of course, allows everyone to keep making monthly payments.

Will this happen? There’s reason to be skeptical. Disney’s other membership program, its fan club D23, has arguably decreased in value in the last three or four years, becoming little more than home to an upfront payment that grants the right to purchase other things. Unique events have also been dwindling. The focus has seemed to shift to film screenings and talks, whereas it once provided members access to elaborate holiday events at Los Feliz restaurant Tam O’Shanter and even once hosted events at Club 33.

But I’m going to be optimistic and assume Disney views its annual passholders as its most loyal and important guests. So, who do I talk to about getting better wi-fi in Cars Land for my remote work station?
 
@mom2rk
Commentary: COVID took away Disneyland’s annual pass program. How to bring it back better
By TODD MARTENSGAME CRITIC
JAN. 23, 2021
7 AM
Last March, during one of the final times I dined out before the pandemic shutdowns, I threw down my Disneyland annual pass along with my debit card when the bill arrived. It was an instinctual action, one that would ensure I would receive the 15% discount that came with my $1,449 Signature Plus pass.

Except I wasn’t at Disneyland.

The bartender at the downtown Los Angeles restaurant jokingly asked if the Disneyland pass was my idea of an extravagant tip. Little did we know that its value would soon be rendered useless.

The Walt Disney Co. announced last week that it was ending the annual pass program as it currently exists, with a plan to regroup someday with “membership” offerings. It’s a huge shift in Disneyland culture — many Southern Californians grew up with daily, weekly or monthly visits to the park during the nearly four decades the passes have been in existence.

For me, growing up in Chicago, trips to Walt Disney World as a child were an every-other-year luxury. It was a place where the very sight of a monorail among Florida greenery spurred the imagination of a curious kid and allowed a crushingly shy boy to come out of his shell and dream of possibility.

When I moved to Los Angeles, Disneyland, thanks largely to its annual pass program, became a place of community and comfort. Often I’d bring a laptop to Disneyland or California Adventure and work there once or twice per week. As counterintuitive as it sounds, on deadline days I’m still most efficient at Disneyland, a place that allows my mind to relax and reminds me that wonder only belongs to childhood if we let ourselves forget what it means to be playful.

Now, after a year of uncertainty and anxiety about COVID-19, Disneyland fans have a bit more unpredictability, as well as the realization if it wasn’t already clear, that the effects of the pandemic will likely live with us for years to come.

Even without knowing how many passholders exist, it was clear that the program could not go on without modifications. When theme parks get the go-ahead from California to reopen, they will do so with a reservation-only system and heavily reduced capacity. Right now, the only lines on Disneyland property are for COVID vaccines, which offer the hope that we will return to normalcy or near to it. But the timeline depends on supply and distribution as well as adoption by those who are vaccine-hesitant.

Thus, my first reaction when Disneyland axed the annual pass program was relief. Then later, concern.

Relief, because visiting the parks during a pandemic is not on my to-do list, nor did I want to dump money into a pass I wouldn’t use. The little time I spent last year at Downtown Disney and in the shops and eateries of Disney California Adventure’s Buena Vista Street was enough to persuade me to stay away. The experiences felt forced, more stress-inducing than relaxing with my attention hyper-focused on the mask and distancing behavior of other guests rather than my surroundings.

Still, as we’ve seen throughout this pandemic, peoples’ comfort levels vary greatly. If Disneyland opens at 25% capacity — and if estimates that the park has about 1 million passholders are correct — Disney had a mess on its hands. The vast majority of those who paid for access wouldn’t have it and would probably feel entitled that they did.

Halting the so-called “AP” program was the right move. So too is the decision to revamp it.

There has long been growing consensus that the AP program, introduced in the early 1980s, was in need of change. The familiar complaint among a large segment of the Disney fan community is that APs lead to overcrowding, creating a lesser park experience for all. For instance, I learned to avoid the park on Sunday afternoons when many pass tiers were often unblocked and crowding reached claustrophobic levels.

Once, I made the mistake of attending on a Dapper Day when tens of thousands of Disneyland guests dress in vintage cocktail attire; it happened to coincide with a day all passes were unblocked. “Why are you here?” asked a Disney cast member I knew. “Dapper Day, plus no block-out day? This is Disneyland pandemonium!” She wasn’t wrong.

But ways to fix this — to essentially spread local attendance throughout the year so that company and consumer interests align — often result in brute, uncomfortable, classist solutions. Some say Disney should cut the monthly payment program because distributing the cost of a pass throughout 12 months creates the illusion of a lower price and, goes the argument, turns Disneyland into a backyard for those who live near it.

They should not, under any circumstance, do this. Not ever.

People should not be punished for exploring their passions. It’s also out of step with how we purchase everything from streaming services to smartphone plans and fails to recognize the economic realities of younger generations that can’t afford other possibilities. Many in their late 20s and 30s are still dealing with the after-effects of the Great Recession and now there is a pandemic thrown on top of it.

The success of a theme park also depends on the attendance of all generations. Tickets sold to 20-somethings today are essentially tickets sold to a family in 20 years. Older adults have nothing to feel nostalgic for if they are priced out and don’t go to begin with. Disneyland’s annual pass program was already on this dangerous path, one set entirely on price increases rather than perks. Eliminating monthly payments would turn the parks into a playground for Boomers, Instagram creators and rich folks.

And make no mistake, the AP program is in many ways still vital, especially at an urban locale that doesn’t have Walt Disney World’s hotel capacity or its four theme parks and activities to encourage week-long stays. The annual pass changed my appreciation of theme parks, allowing them at long last to be seen as Disney’s designers intended. No longer was Disneyland a check-list of things to do in an exhausting 10-hour day that’s ultimately little-to-zero fun for anyone.

What’s more, much of Disneyland is reliant on either those taking extended vacations or in their absence, locals who regularly return. All-encompassing lands such as Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge, which not only has rides but a game on a mobile app that encourages guests to play and engage with the space over time, depend on those who come to hang out rather than hit two rides and bolt.

At Walt Disney World, such activities or even food and wine festivals, can be worked into week-long vacations. In Anaheim, situated in a region with many of the nation’s finest restaurants, art institutions and national parks, such accouterments depend on a robust and accessible program that invites locals to return.

Even the upcoming Avengers Campus is clearly designed with a “local’s park” in mind. The relatively small land is fashioned less as an otherworldly place and more as a SoCal college campus complete with what is more or less a mini beer garden (no offense to the size of Ant-Man and Wasp, for whom the bar is themed).

The conventional wisdom is that hotel guests are more desirable than annual passport holders since over time they spend more money. But that is somewhat outdated blunt marketing thinking — out-of-step with not only what Disneyland represents to SoCal, which will forever be its primary market, but also today’s financially strapped, experience-focused consumers. Increasingly, we’re looking for personalization in our entertainment, changes we’ve seen develop over time amid an own-less, stream-on-demand lifestyle.

Look for guidance at the shift in season ticket programs for sporting events. The Dodgers, for instance, offer a program geared toward those who want limited merch such as bobbleheads as well as one focused on those who want discounts versus those who want more flexibility. This is likely the path forward for Disneyland. The gargantuan Disneyland AP program lacked such personalization, resulting in broadly sweeping tiers based on block-out days rather than specifically tailoring passes to the different ways in which fans engage with the parks.

Even as someone who went 30 to 40 days per year, I started to question the value of a near $1,500 pass that failed to offer the broader sense of connection that I get with my theater and museum memberships, access to events and the ability to regularly meet others who are also passionate about the theme parks. I keep going back to one quote from Disneyland Resort President Ken Potrock in a call with reporters last week, as he was foreshadowing membership programs that are specifically targeted at guest interests rather than calendar dates.

“We want to make sure that we’re creating a program that’s understandable, but at the same time delivers on great value, and that can be things that’s not just clicks at the turnstile,” Potrock said, breaking down “benefits” as things that include “parking or discounts.”

Memberships that come with an assortment of perks — some with merch discounts, some without, some with dining discounts, some without, some with access to after-hours ticketed Halloween events, some without — are easy to imagine. The fear is that Disney goes more of an a la carte route rather than creating robust packages.

Or worse, that the equivalent of the near-daily access of the Signature pass becomes something akin to a poor man’s Club 33, Disneyland’s high-priced private club. Those who have ever been to an “AP-only” lounge at Disneyland know that zero exclusivity is better than exclusivity done cheaply.

But on the surface, programs that offer more control over when people visit — expect a much more robust reservation system rather than lists of block-out days — and can include a couple of the current passholder perks that are most important to certain guests, isn’t a bad idea. Reservations even offer a flexibility that a pure calendar-based system does not and allow Disney to constantly adjust throughout the year, with some memberships based more on spontaneity and some focused more on advanced planning.

The goal should be a park that is full constantly, claustrophobic rarely — if ever — and allows current passholders to find a membership that lines up with their current access and price, with some perks that make it feel a little more tailored to one’s interests. And also, of course, allows everyone to keep making monthly payments.

Will this happen? There’s reason to be skeptical. Disney’s other membership program, its fan club D23, has arguably decreased in value in the last three or four years, becoming little more than home to an upfront payment that grants the right to purchase other things. Unique events have also been dwindling. The focus has seemed to shift to film screenings and talks, whereas it once provided members access to elaborate holiday events at Los Feliz restaurant Tam O’Shanter and even once hosted events at Club 33.

But I’m going to be optimistic and assume Disney views its annual passholders as its most loyal and important guests. So, who do I talk to about getting better wi-fi in Cars Land for my remote work station?
Thank you.
 
I didn't get a survey, but as I looked through the screenshots, I was thinking that if I were asked which pass/tickets I would buy, the actual truth is that I would buy any offering. If it's the only choice, I'm going to take it whether it's ideal or not.

I didn't exactly see what I'd like most and that's a pass or ticket that doesn't require reservations, includes parking and gives discounts. I suppose if I had to choose between not needing a reservation and getting discounts, I'd end up getting the tickets that don't need a reservation. I really do have enough Disney clothing, handbags and jewelry to last the rest of my lifetime and not getting a discount will prevent me from buying more.
 
I hope they make "free" parking an add-on so that we won't have to pay for it (and agree with OP that children under age 16 should not have to pay for parking in their passes since they clearly can't drive!).
A lot of kids do use parking. Putting parking on a kids pass made a lot of sense for some. An example, when my Ex took the kids, having parking on their pass, allowed him to park with them using their parking. Or when friends took a child with an AP and parking could use that parking. If they include it on the top pass, then you make a decision if the value of the pass is worth it, with items you don't use. Since we drove, and stayed at the DLH, we never used the parking on our Signature Plus pass. But we used all the other options, so it made it worth it to purchase that one.
 
A lot of kids do use parking. Putting parking on a kids pass made a lot of sense for some. An example, when my Ex took the kids, having parking on their pass, allowed him to park with them using their parking. Or when friends took a child with an AP and parking could use that parking. If they include it on the top pass, then you make a decision if the value of the pass is worth it, with items you don't use. Since we drove, and stayed at the DLH, we never used the parking on our Signature Plus pass. But we used all the other options, so it made it worth it to purchase that one.
This is a great point and really highlights a way that DL can actually make the membership an improvement from the AP system.

The new membership program should be a “build your own” pass. Instead of a few limited combinations, why not let people choose their options independently and then price accordingly.

-How many days do you want access (and what kind of days)?

-How many reservations at once?

-How early do you want to make reservations?

-Parking?

-MaxPass?

The more you want, the more expensive it is. Some can max everything out and pay the high cost. Others can keep cost to a minimum. And everyone can build something that suits them without being limited to only a few options.

Regular tickets are already kind of like this - you build your own with how many days, do you want park hopper, maxpass, water parks (at WDW), and then it’s priced accordingly - so I don’t see why they couldn’t do a “build your own” for the new membership.

Why limit the choices to 3 different pass options when they could basically offer all potential options?
 



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