The bus...

[brunette8706]

Not really a nerve with me. My pregnancy days are long over now. Just my sadness over the decrease in courtesy and consideration in the world.

With my second I worked until 4:30 and delivered at 11 PM that night at full term. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have appreciated someone offering me a seat if I needed one.

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I concur. Where is all this ANGER coming from? IT's common courtesy to give up a seat to someone that is pregnant, or elderly. I find some of these posts to be disappointing at best.

 

[KellyNY]

On the other hand,I have no problem giving the "Evil Eye",or smarting off to some jerk who sits there,and leaves my DW,or some other woman standing there without at least offering their seat!

WOW, so now everyone is responsible for your wife, right.

 

[jesswindsor]

I am glad that Disney offer's the bus service. It's far from my favorite type of transportation, but it's free!!! It's been said on this thread many times that if getting a seat on the bus is important to you, then just wait on another bus. The seats are first come first serve, so if someone that got a seat doesn't want to give it up---hey they were their first. I have seen some very nice people on the buses, insisting on giving up there seat. I personally stand close to the back door, that way I can get out quick. The one thing that does bother me (it's been said before), is when a very small child is taking up a seat. But then again, they were there first.

 

[Cafeen]

I am just not reading through this thread and I'm amazed at the number of losers who are not willing to give up their seats for a pregnant woman or an elderly person. I have been to Disney pregnant and it was about half the time that someone gave up a seat for me. But everytime I am on the bus I give up my seat to someone that needs it more than I do. Especially people with small children. What do you suggest people with babies do? Hold the baby and hold onto the railing above.

I think these people who don't give up theirs seats are pathetic. What goes around comes around. It plays into the whole entitlement mindset that many have at Disney. "I paid good money so I deserve something free and I deserve to ride every ride with no wait, and I deserve to have a seat on the bus" And all kindness and decency goes out the window.

Judge much?

Expecting everyone to jump out of their seats that they waited for is pretty rude and pathetic by itself. They waited their turn (isn't that what we've all learned at Disney? How to take our turns for a ride?) and now they're reaping the rewards of doing so. You (in general) coming in and demanding a seat they waited for is a pretty rude gesture.

There are other options, and if you think standing on a bus is going to ruin your trip, then it's not worth it to risk having to stand on a bus. Rent a car, take taxis, hire a personal driver (ok, that one is a bit of a stretch ). Planning ahead to avoid the situations is just as important as planning ahead to take advantage of what the world has to offer. If that means that you leave an hour early, so be it.

Now, this tirade may make you think that I sit down and guard my seat with fervor. Nothing is farther from the truth. I stand when the bus is full. I stand because I can, am able, and willing to do so. It doesn't make a lick of difference to me who else is standing along with me and who is sitting. I'll offer my seat to moms, dads, kids, gramma, grampa, cute girls in the 25-30 range (ok, there may be ulterior motives with that one ), it doesn't matter to me. Only once has it been bad, and that's because I forgot to go before I left the park... (the mad dash back to the room was pretty funny, I'm sure )

So, calling others losers and pathetic when they won't give in to your demands, when they waited their own turn, is pretty bad. You'd be much happier just worrying and taking care of yourself and your loved ones than worrying about what other people do.

Now, there's also a difference between appreciating an offer and demanding one. I'll let you figure that out though

 

[Don Disney]

WOW, so now everyone is responsible for your wife, right.

Well...yes,IF that's what you gleen from the posts-in fact,if that is truly what you believe,We would really appreciate ANY assistance(financial,spiritual,maybe come over and clean the house for us...)that you would be so kind in taking on the responsibility of my wife-THAT would be fantastic,and very unselfish of you!

 

[FlightlessDuck]

This horse is so dead it's already been turned into glue and ready for a new school year.

 

[WantToGoNow]

Maybe you can't tell,but 25 years of working in hospitals(acute care and rehab)gives one enough exposure to people who ACTUALLY need help with their activities for daily living-yet alone being able to"assess" one's ability to stand on a bus for 15 minutes-it ain't rocket science.Or maybe I just missed the orthopedic shoes,and the knee brace that was showing under their shorts.Or maybe it was the distinctive left sided limp?Missing those obvious signs would make me feel like quite the jerk!Just sayin'....AND, most people with disabilities LOATHE people who treat them like they are "special/different"-Just sayin'.....

Maybe you also missed heart monitor that was surgically implanted into my healthy looking 27 y/o dd's chest almost 3 years ago - you certainly can't see it unless she's wearing her shirt way too low (and then you'll just see the 3" scar). You can not tell what medical conditions people have by looking at them. Just because you don't see an wheelchair, cane, brace, etc. that does not mean there's not a physical disability. Who knows that very robustly built young man you described might have a physical condition that you know nothing about.

What it comes down to is waiting your turn. Yes it would be nice if everyone that needed a seat had one but we all know that's not going to be the case. If you get on a bus and it's full and you don't want to stand, wait for the next one or call for a taxi. Or you could just rent a car and then your seat will always be there.

 

[catm]

To each, his own, but I always offer my seat to children, ladies, elderly, and men holding children. My wife will, usually, sit with my 2 kids, and I will stand with the stroller. I feel like I can, even though I am not a cast member, bring a little magic to someone's evening by being considerate and being a little inconvenienced to provide comfort to another.

It is what I hope someone would do for my wife. (And many people have)

 

[crashbb]

What a narrowminded "one size fits all" comment. From what is regularly posted on this board, if that person DID use an ECV people would still complain when the ECV was loaded on the bus.

Not every reason for "needing" a seat on a moving bus have anything to do with walking around the park all day. If I wait for the next bus to have a seat, not giving up that seat does not make me a "jerk".

Actually, it isn't "one size fist all" since it doesn't apply to his wife - unless being female is now a disability.

He's all over the place - lots of contradictions, ad hominem attacks, insults, generalities, and sanctimonious verbosity.

 

[Elisa84]

If I get on the bus first and stick my feet on the seat next to me, does that give me the right to be a jerk?

 

[catm]

Do you know what makes me cringe? The thought that a family would place the responsibility for their family's safety or well being on total strangers. Don't want your family to stand? See to it yourself that they don't. Rent a car, use taxis to get around, or wait for a bus with open seating. Don't get on a bus expecting someone else will see to their safety and comfort for you.

Honestly, if I see a family get on the bus with grandma in tow, and grandma needs a seat, my first thought is that someone in that family should have cared enough to take care of grandma. Not that some total stranger should hop up and do it for them.

If someone wants to get up and offer their seat, fine. But expecting someone to do it is pretty rude in itself, imho.

Wow, so you assume that everyone can afford to rent a car or take a taxi everywhere. By saying this you are just about saying that if someone is old, pregnant, have young children or disabled they don't have the right to ride the bus. As far as waiting for the next bus if someone has mobility issues or is pregnant or aged its not any easier standing in a line for another 20 minutes than it is to ride a crowded bus standing up. My children always offer their seats to people who appear to need to sit down more than they do. And I am very proud of them for that. They also always get a good feeling from spreading a little magic to others because they know it comes back to them.

 

[MikeOhio]

No one is entitled to a seat. If you can't stand on the bus you should rent a car or take a cab. Also just don't leave at peak times and it should not be an issue.

I personally give up my seat to seniors or pregnant women, that's it. If you keep your kids out late and they don't have a seat, that's a you problem. Also why give up your seat to a woman. Women are just as physically capable as men. It's not like their feet hurt anymore than mine. I find it pretty chauvinistic when people act like women cant stand just as well as men.

 

[Don Disney]

And now I know why the Dems/Repubs can't get this country on track.Perception,and what is actually being said are polar opposites-at least on this subject.I think I'll rent a car so my wife can sit.ANY of you folks want to make a contribution? With y'alls help,maybe we can get us one of them"mini-vans".I sure would'nt want to give my self away at WDW giving some of you the"Evil Eye".You can talk the talk,can you walk the walk?Let me know in which manner you want to send your donations.Now let's see who'll step up and help O'l "Evil Eye" stay off of those busses expecting men to be gentleman!!!

 

[Don Disney]

Actually, it isn't "one size fist all" since it doesn't apply to his wife - unless being female is now a disability.

He's all over the place - lots of contradictions, ad hominem attacks, insults, generalities, and sanctimonious verbosity.

Very well put-unfortunately,my limited vocabulary won't allow me to understand what you're saying;Looks good though!

 

[KellyNY]

Well...yes,IF that's what you gleen from the posts-in fact,if that is truly what you believe,We would really appreciate ANY assistance(financial,spiritual,maybe come over and clean the house for us...)that you would be so kind in taking on the responsibility of my wife-THAT would be fantastic,and very unselfish of you!

Do you also accept advices, here is one, STEP AWAY FROM COMPUTER, THE HOLE YOU ARE DIGGING IS ABOUT TO HIT CHINA. But with your laser vision you probably know that by now.

 

[maxiesmom]

Wow, so you assume that everyone can afford to rent a car or take a taxi everywhere. By saying this you are just about saying that if someone is old, pregnant, have young children or disabled they don't have the right to ride the bus. As far as waiting for the next bus if someone has mobility issues or is pregnant or aged its not any easier standing in a line for another 20 minutes than it is to ride a crowded bus standing up. My children always offer their seats to people who appear to need to sit down more than they do. And I am very proud of them for that. They also always get a good feeling from spreading a little magic to others because they know it comes back to them.

If you (in general) have someone in your family who absolutely cannot stand on a bus, and then you insist on them using the busses, you are horribly neglegent and uncaring. It is no one else's responsibility to see to your family's safety. If the family can't be bothered to see to the safety of its own family members, why should other people be concerned? "Here Grandma, I can't be bothered to rent a car. And I don't want to put off this trip another month or two to save money for a rental anyway. We will just shove you on a bus and hope like heck someone will give you their seat. Or you better hang on!"

It is about being responsible for yourself, and not looking for others to take care of things for you. And if you can't stand on a bus, and can't afford a taxi, then you either need to wait for the next bus, or put off your vacation until you have the funds for a car or taxi. Getting on a bus and expecting or demanding a seat shouldn't be an option. Why is your decision to play russian roulette with your safety someone else's problem?

If a seat for a family member is a need, then you should be the one to provide that need for them. And not doing so is wrong.

 

[KellyNY]

If you (in general) have someone in your family who absolutely cannot stand on a bus, and then you insist on them using the busses, you are horribly neglegent and uncaring. It is no one else's responsibility to see to your family's safety. If the family can't be bothered to see to the safety of its own family members, why should other people be concerned? "Here Grandma, I can't be bothered to rent a car. And I don't want to put off this trip another month or two to save money for a rental anyway. We will just shove you on a bus and hope like heck someone will give you their seat. Or you better hang on!"

It is about being responsible for yourself, and not looking for others to take care of things for you. And if you can't stand on a bus, and can't afford a taxi, then you either need to wait for the next bus, or put off your vacation until you have the funds for a car or taxi. Getting on a bus and expecting or demanding a seat shouldn't be an option. Why is your decision to play russian roulette with your safety someone else's problem?

If a seat for a family member is a need, then you should be the one to provide that need for them. And not doing so is wrong.

You are my hero.

 

[Don Disney]

Maybe you also missed heart monitor that was surgically implanted into my healthy looking 27 y/o dd's chest almost 3 years ago - you certainly can't see it unless she's wearing her shirt way too low (and then you'll just see the 3" scar). You can not tell what medical conditions people have by looking at them. Just because you don't see an wheelchair, cane, brace, etc. that does not mean there's not a physical disability. Who knows that very robustly built young man you described might have a physical condition that you know nothing about.

What it comes down to is waiting your turn. Yes it would be nice if everyone that needed a seat had one but we all know that's not going to be the case. If you get on a bus and it's full and you don't want to stand, wait for the next one or call for a taxi. Or you could just rent a car and then your seat will always be there.

You are correct that it can't be seen;but does it hinder her ability to stand for a little while on a bus?Probably not,but I hear what you're saying.Just because someone has some type of physical ailment does'nt mean that they can't stand on a bus without having difficulty.As for my "robust"young man-he did'nt get that way eating donuts and sitting on the couch! I hope your DD is doing well!!!!

 

[Don Disney]

Do you also accept advices, here is one, STEP AWAY FROM COMPUTER, THE HOLE YOU ARE DIGGING IS ABOUT TO HIT CHINA. But with your laser vision you probably know that by now.

Did'nt you know,China OWNS us-maybe if I make it,I can get some of our money back!!!

 

[Don Disney]

Do you also accept advices, here is one, STEP AWAY FROM COMPUTER, THE HOLE YOU ARE DIGGING IS ABOUT TO HIT CHINA. But with your laser vision you probably know that by now.

I did'nt get it the first time-You just called me Cyclops!!! I ALWAYS wanted to be one of the X-MEN!Thanks for the compliment!!!