~ The Biggest Loser ~ FINALE ~ We have a winner!!!

[RitaE]

I kind of thought Tracy probably had a bunch of extra fluid in her from the hospital IVs the first week or so and most of her weight loss at first was that. I don't have a clue how she is maintaining it though --- other than the fact that she's a freaky-eyed witch.


I thought the show rules forbid any of the contestants from dropping under the 1200 calories a day guideline. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[cepmom]

the others are working out so they are gaining muscle. Muscle weighs more than fat, so their weigh-ins won't show a huge loss. I know I can pretty easily loose weight without working out, as long as I pay attention to what I eat. Tracy is on a very restricted diet so her big losses are not that surprising.

If you look at the contestants you will see that even those with small weight losses look like they've lost more than Tracy because they are gaining muscle.

actually, muscle weighs the same as fat...1 lb is 1 lb whether it's muscle or fat. They look like they're losing more than Tracy because while 1 lb of muscle weighs the same as 1 lb of fat, the muscle is tighter and has less volume than the fat, so they look leaner.

 

[RitaE]

Bob and Jill have always put the smackdown on anybody who tried to claim that "my new muscle weighs more than my old fat" line.

That's fun to watch too.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Bob and Jill have always put the smackdown on anybody who tried to claim that "my new muscle weighs more than my old fat" line.

That's fun to watch too.

Yep, a lb is a lb.

I do agree Tracy is losing weight because of diet, which does bring up an interesting observation really.

She will continue to lose weight thru diet but eventually she is going to plateau and not be able to lose as much and/or stagnant. However I don't think she will be around long enough for us to see that.

 

[momrek06]

I read on another board the Daniel and Rebecca are dating.

Wow, whenever Rebecca said (on the scales) that she is down to the weight she was at 14yo = 237! That sure was allot of weight for a young teen girl.

Allot of drama Tuesday night.

 

[sallysmom]

I watch BL on Wednesday nites via TIvo as I HATE all those extended dramatic send-ups and endless commercials during and between the show. So I'm just now chiming in.
Can't believe Tracy was not voted off but if you look at it from a contribution standpoint, she's right. She's continued to lose weight (some how) and Coach Mo was really having difficulty just moving around. For a coach, he was a little too passive but I admire his sticking to his moral stance.
I haven't picked any favs yet this season but I think Tracy is going to be here much longer than we all like. For whatever reason. She's the drama the show seems to thrive on and viewers need to hate someone. So it might as well be her.
What I am happy to see is that the bleeped out words are getting less and less with each show. I hope the producers (and contestants) remember that this is a family show and they are examples for many younger viewers watching. My DD10 and I watch it together and after watching the first episode I had my doubts about letting her continue to watch. She assured me she really didn't care about learning any new words and most of them weren't that new, anyway.

 

[cruisnfamily]

I don't buy it. I am 100% convinced this show is set up.

As soon as she won control over the teams DH started calling foul and went looking online for dirt. Didn't find any, but it is a little hard to swallow.

I thought the same thing. I am finding it very hard to believe that she's always winning the challenges, loses weight w/o ever getting to workout, and now is safe even though everyone obviously can't stand her. No way on earth is this not a set-up.

Either Tracy is a plant or she's superwoman. How is she losing "7" pounds without doing any workouts with the group??

If any of you do find anything related to a set up, I'd be very interested to read it. Please keep us posted!

I read on another board the Daniel and Rebecca are dating.

What board? I'd like to read it!

 

[Jennabeth]

actually, muscle weighs the same as fat...1 lb is 1 lb whether it's muscle or fat. They look like they're losing more than Tracy because while 1 lb of muscle weighs the same as 1 lb of fat, the muscle is tighter and has less volume than the fat, so they look leaner.

Muscle and fat do not weigh the same. A cup of fat will weigh less than a cup of muscle.

That's like saying a brick and a feather weigh the same and we know that's not true. Now 1 lb of bricks and 1 lb of feathers will weigh the same, but that's not what I said.

 

[cepmom]

Muscle and fat do not weigh the same. A cup of fat will weigh less than a cup of muscle.

That's like saying a brick and a feather weigh the same and we know that's not true. Now 1 lb of bricks and 1 lb of feathers will weigh the same, but that's not what I said.

you said muscle weighs more than fat...we are talking about 1 lb of muscle vs 1 lb of fat, then they weigh the same. When comparing fat vs muscle, one does not use cups as measurement. If one were to use cups as measurement, then yes, you could fit more muscle than fat into 1 cup because it is more compact, dense than fat.

So for example, my WW leader and I are the same height and weight. She works out using weights and I don't. Her clothes are smaller than mine, but that does not mean that muscle weighs more than fat. It just means that her body is tighter due to toned muscles and mine is more flabby.

Even the trainers don't let the contestants use the "muscle weighs more than fat" excuse.

 

[KAMLEM]

Muscle and fat do not weigh the same. A cup of fat will weigh less than a cup of muscle.

That's like saying a brick and a feather weigh the same and we know that's not true. Now 1 lb of bricks and 1 lb of feathers will weigh the same, but that's not what I said.

That would make sense if you simply replaced all of the fat volume with muscle, but you don't. You lose much more volume in fat than you gain in muscle, so the "muscle weighs more than fat" argument doesn't carry any weight (no pun intended).

 

[Jennabeth]

you said muscle weighs more than fat...we are talking about 1 lb of muscle vs 1 lb of fat, then they weigh the same. When comparing fat vs muscle, one does not use cups as measurement. If one were to use cups as measurement, then yes, you could fit more muscle than fat into 1 cup because it is more compact, dense than fat.

So for example, my WW leader and I are the same height and weight. She works out using weights and I don't. Her clothes are smaller than mine, but that does not mean that muscle weighs more than fat. It just means that her body is tighter due to toned muscles and mine is more flabby.

Even the trainers don't let the contestants use the "muscle weighs more than fat" excuse.

Okay, I wasn't talking about 1 lb of muscle vs 1 lb of fat, I'm talking about mass and the weight of the mass. I agree, a pound is a pound.

I guess this is one thing I don't like about this show, but since they are dealing with people who obviously don't have a lot of muscle (at the beginning), it hasn't been an issue, until now. The people that are working out are building muscle and that's putting them at a disadvantage, now. Pretend Danny and Tracy weigh the same. If Danny loses 11 lbs of fat, but gains 2 lbs of muscle, he's going to show a loss of 9 lbs, but he's getting healthier. If Tracy loses 11 lbs of fat, but gains no muscle, she's going to have a bigger percentage of weight loss, but she's not healthier.

Now when she plateaus and the others are burning more calories because they have more muscle, it will hurt her, but right now I'm not sure that's an issue and it stinks because someone who deserves to stay will have to go home because they have more muscle. That's what I was trying to get at in my earlier post.

So if you and your WW leader were in the competition and next week you lost 1 lb and she didn't, she would be sent home and you would stay, yet she's (probably) healthier.

 

[cepmom]

Okay, I wasn't talking about 1 lb of muscle vs 1 lb of fat, I'm talking about mass and the weight of the mass. I agree, a pound is a pound.

I guess this is one thing I don't like about this show, but since they are dealing with people who obviously don't have a lot of muscle (at the beginning), it hasn't been an issue, until now. The people that are working out are building muscle and that's putting them at a disadvantage, now. Pretend Danny and Tracy weigh the same. If Danny loses 11 lbs of fat, but gains 2 lbs of muscle, he's going to show a loss of 9 lbs, but he's getting healthier. If Tracy loses 11 lbs of fat, but gains no muscle, she's going to have a bigger percentage of weight loss, but she's not healthier.

Now when she plateaus and the others are burning more calories because they have more muscle, it will hurt her, but right now I'm not sure that's an issue and it stinks because someone who deserves to stay will have to go home because they have more muscle. That's what I was trying to get at in my earlier post.

So if you and your WW leader were in the competition and next week you lost 1 lb and she didn't, she would be sent home and you would stay, yet she's (probably) healthier.

I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure it works that way. Maybe it does, I'm certainly no professional. I mean, don't they have muscle under the fat (although it is not toned)? When they start working out, burning calories and using weights, doesn't it tone up the existing muscle? Does one actually gain muscle weight at the same time as losing fat? I'd love to get a one on one with Jillian about this...I'm really curious.

that said, I sure would love to see Tracey go home. She bugs me!

 

[RitaE]

I guess this is one thing I don't like about this show, but since they are dealing with people who obviously don't have a lot of muscle (at the beginning), it hasn't been an issue, until now.

I'm not sure how true that is. I think many of them have more muscle than you would suspect, it is just covered up by their weight.

It has to take some muscle to move 450lbs around from point A to point B day after day.

 

[jenseib]

I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure it works that way. Maybe it does, I'm certainly no professional. I mean, don't they have muscle under the fat (although it is not toned)? When they start working out, burning calories and using weights, doesn't it tone up the existing muscle? Does one actually gain muscle weight at the same time as losing fat? I'd love to get a one on one with Jillian about this...I'm really curious.

that said, I sure would love to see Tracey go home. She bugs me!

I was always taught thattoo. As you work out you gain muscle weight while losing fat weight. I was also told never to go by a scale (though I do weigh myself all the time) becuase if you are working with weights you may not see it in numbers but you will see in in clothes size and inches

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Muscle burns calories more effeciently than fat does, so even if they are gaining more muscle than Tracy, very quickly she is going to see them start surpassing her since even at rest they will be burning more calories than she is. Yes, they may gain muscle while she does not, but she will not have good results if she does not start gaining muscle. And really, the amount of weight from the muscle they gain is going to be negligible.

 

[Free4Life11]

Here is a great article on the subject of losing weight while building muscle.

http://www.sparkpeople.com/community/ask_the_experts.asp?q=70

In a nutshell, it's very difficult and it's much more slow going, so I think it would be near impossible for the Biggest Losers. The thing is, when you have such rapid weight loss you run the risk of losing your existing muscle, so I think the strength training they do is more about preserving the existing muscle they have, as opposed to building muscle.

Now regarding the episode...I'm sick of all the drama. I get it, Tracey is the mean one, she's a witch, whatever. She is playing the game, but you know what, she's getting consistent results. And I loved her husbands video!

Everyone else (except Abby) wanted that power too. And while I understand that the contestants develop relationships, some of it is just ridiculous. Liz's dependency on her partner was a little frightening. She and the other contestants need to be LESS dependent on others and MORE dependent on themselves!

I hope Deena can eventually hop on that platform!

 

[MUFFYCAT]

Did anyone see this? I'd watch it for sure!!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i7d72e67f57c98169648b420e51393d2a#

 

[momrek06]

TONIGHT!!!

One team makes a startling decision when they win a one-week trip back home.

Did anyone see this? I'd watch it for sure!!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i7d72e67f57c98169648b420e51393d2a#

Wow, that looks awesome, JO!!! Thanks for posting!!!

 

[tchrrx]

5 minutes left...wish that Tracey was going home, but that's not happening. Oh well. She didn't seem quite as annoying tonight.

 

[tchrrx]

Woo-hoo! I've been waiting all season for Dina to get her hair cut.

She looks wonderful.