The Bachelorette-May 24-NO SPOILERS

[MaryAnnDVC]

When Vienna talked about Jake being a pilot, she was talking about his job. He may have flown last weekend, but not for a job; he does have his own plane or at least planes available for use. So he flew...that so isn't a response to her statement. He's definitely a word/statement twister...not the kind of person you can have a fair argument with...it must have been very frustrating for Vienna. (What airline did he work for? Makes you wonder who's flying the plane you're in. )

 

[JulyGirl]

Why have this on now? Why not wait until "After the Final Rose"?

I think they chose to air this last night because the regular episode of The Bachelorette was so darn boring! They couldn't even fill up 2 hours! All Ali did was walk around like a sour puss for half the show. There is no way that girl is going to end up with any of the final 4. Today, nobody is talking about Ali's choices. It's all Jake and Vienna talk! My only confusion is what Jake will get out of last night's appearance. I can't imagine coming on TV and appearing like a jerk would help his chances in Hollywood. Seems like most people that were his fans have turned on him. It's not easy to get viewers to feel sympathy for Vienna, but Jake managed to do it!

 

[lillygator]

I really think he is gay....and all out for himself. (not that Vienna doesn't like the publicity)

 

[lacy1101]

He seems to have done alright...

Apparently so since she kept him! ;-)

I just thought he seemed nervous and was having trouble spitting out exactly what he wanted to say. But what do I know . . .

 

[Kirby]

...I saw all the promos and didn't relize that he was gonna be on that too....it's going to be real interesting with Wes and that other CREEP from Canada on at the same time.....personally, they all deserve each other...

And I think I saw that psycho girl from Jake's season on the promos also. Should be interesting.

 

[moet7]

What I was shocked about was.............Jake NOT crying!!!!!!!!!!
He cried on the show, how many times and he even cried on Dancing with the Stars...........so why no tears last night????

 

[happygirl]

What I was shocked about was.............Jake NOT crying!!!!!!!!!!
He cried on the show, how many times and he even cried on Dancing with the Stars...........so why no tears last night????

Um I believe he was pretty annoyed with Vienna, I wouldn't be crying either

 

[Cat0727]

Jake and Chelsie on Dancing with the Stars...Jake's attitude:

At about the 1:40 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ETQylSAUM

At about 1:20 and definitely 1:58:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XJnQINIBZI

From the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptI-GRwh3-M&feature=related

That's all I could find, but I'm looking at it very differently after seeing the interview with Jake tonight. He sees himself as being undermined and disrespected when a woman challenges him.

Thanks girlie! Yea, you can definitely see signs of the behavior Vienna was talking about. Poor Chelsie, she wasn't even that tough on jake!

I really hope not. I don't think Ali would deal with Jake's behavior for a minute. She's probably very thankful right now for dodging that bullet.

I hated Vienna during the show, but I actually feel bad for her now. I think Jake did deceive her with his career. I think she really believed he would go back to being a pilot, not an aspiring actor. The story about her dog was bizarre, but I believe Vienna because it seems just too odd to be made up. I think Jake was upset that Vienna was giving her attention to something other than him.

I believed her about the dog I didn't believe her about her excuse for wanting to stay in L.A. I think it's just so she can get more publicity and extra money...I read she was going to pose for Playboy.

When Vienna talked about Jake being a pilot, she was talking about his job. He may have flown last weekend, but not for a job; he does have his own plane or at least planes available for use. So he flew...that so isn't a response to her statement. He's definitely a word/statement twister...not the kind of person you can have a fair argument with...it must have been very frustrating for Vienna. (What airline did he work for? Makes you wonder who's flying the plane you're in. )

I always thought he was a phony pilot. I don't think he flew for major airports.

 

[happygirl]

I always thought he was a phony pilot. I don't think he flew for major airports.

I believe he flies for Southwest.


Vienna remind of how she was in the house, she called everyone fake and liars and then would run off and hide

 

[AlienBrain]

Last night was just far too funny. First it starts with Chris Harrison saying that so many people have found love on the show ... lol. Wait, if I recall correctly, you have 2 marriages out of 20 seasons. If 10% is many, then I guess you're right.

Next, anyone who thinks that Jake is not at all guilty in this breakup is fooling themselves. The guy is a sociopath. Look at how he was last night yelling at Vienna. Remember the episode on the Bachelor when he coldly told Tenley that he doesn't have physical feeling for her and such? The guy is cold-hearted whacko that needs to get his head checked.

Jake wasn't throwing out ANY details last night, while Vienna had many, many details including first and last names. That is as close to a sure-fire way of telling who is fudging and who is telling at least some truths. I think the nail in the coffin of Jake's credibility was the combination of his accusation of her being with a single guy who turned out to be gay AND his obsession with "undermining" and "emasculating." How on earth is typing an address into a GPS when he just gave her directions emasculating? Also, tinkering with the room configuration is undermining? Are you serious? Sounds like Jake was raised as a spoiled brat and he used the Bachelor to help start his TV/film career. Is there anything wrong with that? Not at all. Heck, it's "reality" TV, folks. The irony about modern "reality" TV is that it's not reality ... it's entertainment. And that train wreck of an interview was pure entertainment and EXACTLY what ABC wanted.

 

[Robinrs]

I think they chose to air this last night because the regular episode of The Bachelorette was so darn boring! They couldn't even fill up 2 hours! All Ali did was walk around like a sour puss for half the show. There is no way that girl is going to end up with any of the final 4. Today, nobody is talking about Ali's choices. It's all Jake and Vienna talk! My only confusion is what Jake will get out of last night's appearance. I can't imagine coming on TV and appearing like a jerk would help his chances in Hollywood. Seems like most people that were his fans have turned on him. It's not easy to get viewers to feel sympathy for Vienna, but Jake managed to do it!

Wow, I barely REMEMBER the show!! It was like watching paint dry!!

I really think he is gay....and all out for himself. (not that Vienna doesn't like the publicity)

I also think he's on the down low...

...c'mon now - we all kow you are a 'closet Vienna fan'....

Uh, NOT. But after last night she came out smelling sweeter than that Jerk Jake!

Jake reaped what he sowed. He had a room full of women on the Bachelor and he chose the youngest girl on the show 10 years his junior. You wanted a girl, you got a girl! On that note, I felt really bad for Vienna. ETA: I think Tenley would have been the June Cleaver he was looking for.

Men like GIRLS, God forbid they accidentally turn into WOMEN!!

 

[lillygator]

I really could see some of the behaviors that she was talking about. If they hadn't been on tv I am sure he would have been yelling, he almost lost it at one point, and I get annoyed about interrupting, but it is something a lot of people do especially during an arguement...and the gps and measuring issues, Jake does not want to be questioned on anything, he is the man of the relationship and what he says goes, that was VERY apparant last night.

 

[Robinrs]

Jake and Chelsie on Dancing with the Stars...Jake's attitude:

At about the 1:40 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ETQylSAUM

At about 1:20 and definitely 1:58:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XJnQINIBZI

From the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptI-GRwh3-M&feature=related

That's all I could find, but I'm looking at it very differently after seeing the interview with Jake tonight. He sees himself as being undermined and disrespected when a woman challenges him.

Wow, I had stopped watching DWTS because I couldn't STAND him but I never saw these! UGH!!

 

[robinb]

I thought that Jake was a flight instructor and not a commercial pilot.

Anyway ... Add me to the list of people who believed V last night. I could not stand her last season and I do think that J found out the kind of immature girl she was the hard way. That being said, J was a huge jerk last night and I actually felt sorry for V. I wonder if he would treat a woman like Ali any differently. He knew he could push V around (at least for a while) but sometimes people act differently if the respect is already there.

 

[kimmar067]

Vienna remind of how she was in the house, she called everyone fake and liars and then would run off and hide

...good point...

 

[kimmar067]

And I think I saw that psycho girl from Jake's season on the promos also. Should be interesting.

 

[Kirby]

It's very, very rare for a relationship to break up with only one of those involved at fault. I'm sure that they both contributed to their problems. Jake may have been in it for where it could take him but I wouldn't be surprised if Vienna had the same idea.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Which psycho girl from Jake's season are we talking about? I can't keep the psycho girls straight from each season. Except for...

You know who I'd LOVE to see on the Bachelor Pad, or actually, ANY show? The psycho woman doctor...Allie G...from The Bachelor with Dr Travis Stork; the one whose eggs were getting old and flipped out on him after she got bumped the first night. But I think she's one of the few who learned her lesson about putting yourself out there on a crazy "reality" show. Wonder what she's up to these days.

 

[Kirby]

Which psycho girl from Jake's season are we talking about? I can't keep the psycho girls straight from each season. Except for...

The dark haired one that cried some, was going to leave and didn't. Jake kept her around for awhile then got rid of her in the middle of a group date.

 

[NAB]

Which psycho girl from Jake's season are we talking about? I can't keep the psycho girls straight from each season. Except for...

You know who I'd LOVE to see on the Bachelor Pad, or actually, ANY show? The psycho woman doctor...Allie G...from The Bachelor with Dr Travis Stork; the one whose eggs were getting old and flipped out on him after she got bumped the first night. But I think she's one of the few who learned her lesson about putting yourself out there on a crazy "reality" show. Wonder what she's up to these days.

Was it the girl that didn't kiss on a date with Jake but kept looking like she would kiss him?