The Bachelor Jake thread Spoilers welcome

Well at least she colored her hair completly for last nights show...............it didnt look as crappy as it usually did. i have lost interest int he show. We all knew hed pick her................It does seeem like hes more of a father figure to her..................
 
I am really shocked by all the people on my Facebook this morning that are upset that Jake didn't choose Tenley. :confused3 To me Tenley is so bland!!! It is not possible to be that perfect and if she really is like that all the time, what a bore! I mean really people - think about it - would you want a friend like Tenley? Someone who is positive all the time, someone who reprimands you for not being perfect, someone who you can't really be yourself around. No thanks! Give me a fun friend who I can vent to and be myself with. Give me a friend to gossip and laugh with. I definitely need some "edge" in my friends and my husband.
I highlighted a complete definition of me. That's one of the reasons my DH picked me. He grew up in an unhappy and disfunctional family and he wanted a woman who was the exact opposite of that... me. It's funny that all of his siblings picked positive people to counterbalance the negativity in which they grew up.

Being happy is not a crime.

I never saw Tenley criticize anyone for not being perfect and I dont' know why Jake didn't think he could be himself with her. Perhaps it's because his true self is a sex-crazed 15 yo who needed an immature sex-crazed girl. Relationships can start that way, but they don't stay that way.

You know, I just realized that I'm arguing over nonsense. I think Ali was the right girl for Jake, if any of them really are. I hope Jake gets everything he wants with Vienna.
 
I don't thnk Tenley is a bad person for being happy and upbet. I think there are a lot of people that inspire to be that way.

I can see why Jake picked Vienna they were so at ease with each other. They were always laughing and having a great time together
 

For the record I am a happy and upbeat person - anyone who knows me would describe me that way - but I am also very funny, realistic and I can be very sarcastic.

I am not faulting Tenley for being happy - I am faulting her for not being real - to me there is a big difference. I have known 2 people in my life that are completely unrealistically positive all the time. You certainly can't fault them because they are never mean to anyone, but I am just not attracted to them as real friends. Does that make sense? I just feel like I always have to be on my best behavior around them and I can't really be myself.

I wholely agree that Ali was the best choice for Jake. Ali is real. She has a cute, charming side but she also has some edge, she is a strong woman. That's exactly what I was referring to in my previous post. I think if Ali had stayed she would have been the final girl.

I am not arguing at all - I enjoy discussing all this stuff. To me it's all in good fun. :goodvibes
 
I think Ali is the typical mean girl. I think the only reason she gave up on being so nasty to Vienna is because she was eyeing the bachelorette. I didn't love Vienna, but they did seem happy. Will it last? Probably not! But I kind of hope so.

No Bachelorette or wedding for me; I don't like Ali and never liked Jason or Molly.
 
FinFan had written "I am not sure what is 'off' with Vienna...."
I think I get it...
I do not swallow hook-line-and-sinker that Vienna is the 'bad girl', and that all the stuff written about her in the Rags is truth.

People, I am from the South...
I know what it is like for people who come from RedNeck, Hole-in-the-Wall towns in the South.... Trailer Trash... etc...

You guys know the old saying "What, were you raised in a barn????"
Well, yes, Vienna was raised in a barn!!!!

This poor girl simply has developed no poise or social skills.
It is so painfully obvious!
It is a glaring deficit from her past and her upbringing.

I never saw Vienna as purposefully wanting to offend...
Really, I didn't.
I have seen enough of where Vienna has come from, that I identified this in her right away.... by episode two or three.

In most cases, I would be right in there with everybody else villifying Vienna... But, somehow, I have never been able to do that.

In most cases I think that "Hey, she is what she is, folks don't change... etc..." But, in this case, I really do think that Vienna is the rare case of somebody just needing to grow out of their past and to see things differently.

If (and that is a HUGE 'if') she stays with Jake, if there is anybody who can be instrumental in helping Vienna in this respect, it is Jake's mother. What an impressive woman!

Vienna did say to Jake that she has learned from her past mistakes.

I really and truly believe that she is going to give it her all to never go back to where she was.

Now, does she have problems? sure she does!
Will her and Jake live happily ever after? Who knows?

But, remember everybody, Jake chose who HE wanted...
And, deep down, Jake is just the laid back boy who likes to play in the mud.

I, for one, am not going to be issuing any prejudicial judgments.
 
Me again...

About Ali...

OMG... a whole season of ALI!!!! :scared:

I will admit to being sucked into this trashy show...
But, this time, I don't think I can stand to watch!!!
 
FinFan had written "I am not sure what is 'off' with Vienna...."
I think I get it...
I do not swallow hook-line-and-sinker that Vienna is the 'bad girl', and that all the stuff written about her in the Rags is truth.

People, I am from the South...
I know what it is like for people who come from RedNeck, Hole-in-the-Wall towns in the South.... Trailer Trash... etc...

You guys know the old saying "What, were you raised in a barn????"
Well, yes, Vienna was raised in a barn!!!!

This poor girl simply has developed no poise or social skills.
It is so painfully obvious!
It is a glaring deficit from her past and her upbringing.

I never saw Vienna as purposefully wanting to offend...
Really, I didn't.
I have seen enough of where Vienna has come from, that I identified this in her right away.... by episode two or three.

In most cases, I would be right in there with everybody else villifying Vienna... But, somehow, I have never been able to do that.

I was thinking this same thing when they were dancing on ATFR. Poor Jeffrey Osborne is singing and Vienna can't stop laughing. And I'm thinking, "Where's the decorum?" I think Jake kissed her just so she'd stop laughing. But you're right, she's just kind of ignorant of certain social niceties. Yes, Jeffrey Osborne singing that awful song was funny, but you can't laugh in the dude's face.

And Teacher03 - I agree about Ali's mean-girl-ness. Either she's a bully or she was edited that way and you never know with this show. Her assertiveness *could* make her a good Bachelorette. We'll see.

Re: Jason and Molly - I cannot imagine how bored I would have to be to tune into that wedding. Blech.
 
For the record I am a happy and upbeat person - anyone who knows me would describe me that way - but I am also very funny, realistic and I can be very sarcastic.

I am not faulting Tenley for being happy - I am faulting her for not being real - to me there is a big difference. I have known 2 people in my life that are completely unrealistically positive all the time. You certainly can't fault them because they are never mean to anyone, but I am just not attracted to them as real friends. Does that make sense? I just feel like I always have to be on my best behavior around them and I can't really be myself.

I wholely agree that Ali was the best choice for Jake. Ali is real. She has a cute, charming side but she also has some edge, she is a strong woman. That's exactly what I was referring to in my previous post. I think if Ali had stayed she would have been the final girl.

I am not arguing at all - I enjoy discussing all this stuff. To me it's all in good fun. :goodvibes
Thank you for explaining further. I understand from where you are coming. I dated a guy in college that was just too nice. He agreed with everything I said and had no original thoughts because they might differ from mine. I broke up with him. While my DH is very nice, he's also good for an argument every now and then.

I wasn't suggesting that you were arguing. I thought I was starting an argument with you and I didn't want to go there for a topic as "earth-shattering" as the bachelor. ;) I wanted to keep it lighter, too.
 
I highly doubt Vienna and Jake last long enough to get married. I am seeing both of them more and more as media wh****. He's going to be on DWTS and I am sure she'll pop up somewhere too.
If I am wrong and this is love and they marry he better get a pre-nup! I would think his pilot income and pension are worth a whole lot more than what she is able to contribute to the relationship.
 
I feel bad for Jake, no matter what I think he honestly loved Vienna. If it's true that she cheated on him that is horrible.
 
I feel bad for Jake, no matter what I think he honestly loved Vienna. If it's true that she cheated on him that is horrible.

Yeah, I agree. As cheesy as he was, I think he was in love. Maybe he can show up on the Bachelorette!
 
I am shocked....shocked I tell you. I thought it was going to be forever! :happytv:
 












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