The 2010 Baltic Thread--Cruise Tips and Planning

I think the Zip card is the same as the Oyster photocard. I copied this from www.ricksteves.com/books/update/bk-rs-lon.htm and it sounds just like the photocard:
A paying adult can still take up to four kids, aged 10 and under, for free any time of day. Families with older kids can consider the Oyster "Zip" card, which allows kids ages 11–15 to travel all day for £1 on the Tube and for free on buses. The "Zip" card must be ordered online three weeks in advance and requires a £5 deposit and digital photo (pick card up on arrival, details at www.tfl.gov.uk/zip).

I got the 5-10 photocard for DD who will be 9. She is tall for her age and I did not want there to be any confusion. My DS is 11, almost 12, and I got him the 11-15 photocard. Very easy to do online.

Carol
Sounds good for my DD13. I'll try to order the Oyster card soon for her,
maybe stick with Travel cards for myself, DH and DS16.

My DH is going to rent a tux. Will wear on formal night and to the Royal Ball at Catherine's Palace.

Hey you don't live too far from me:goodvibes
Fairax, VA here

My Dh definitely wants to wear a tux, but my DS16 is worried he'll stick out if others aren't wearing them.
They know there will be plenty of cruisers not in formal wear, they just don't want to be the only ones in tuxes.
 
Sounds good for my DD13. I'll try to order the Oyster card soon for her,
maybe stick with Travel cards for myself, DH and DS16.



Hey you don't live too far from me:goodvibes
Fairax, VA here

My Dh definitely wants to wear a tux, but my DS16 is worried he'll stick out if others aren't wearing them.
They know there will be plenty of cruisers not in formal wear, they just don't want to be the only ones in tuxes.

We are just south east of you in Williamsburg!
 

Odd question...maybe...

DS is currently taking a wine chemistry class in college...and for credit, too! :lmao:

Just occurred to me it would be fun to do a winery tour with him on a Baltics cruise, but I'm not aware of any at all. Does anyone know if there are ANY in the areas we are going to?? Not really a specialty, is it? A search didn't turn up anything, but thought I'd ask the experts. :goodvibes

Thx for any thoughts.

bev
 
This is good advice....last week my DD's friends were not able to fly back home to the UK for over a week. One of them is diabetic and luckily he had enough supplies/medication with him for the extra week.

MJ

:lovestruc Yes with the troubles recently add say two weeks supply on a Europe trip, hopefully not to be used. Pescription and over the counter Meds can have different names here, but quality Pharmacies should work it out, but it can take a while.

Andrew-

I know you had posted this, but forgive me I'm going to ask. I lost my notes I had taken the one day regarding hiring car services to take us to Dover. You said to look for their licensing. What exactly was it supposed to say. I found one that says they are licensed through the London Public Carriage Office. Is this what I'm looking for? Thanks again. The company is Riverside Cars & Couriers.

In side London area, all cabs should be registered with TLF.GOV.UK, thats the government Transport for London, they should quote CABWISE, for safe cabs, you can get a list from the TLF website, on the taxi website its a yellow/black sign.


The men in our family would like to know about tuxes.
Thinking about renting them and the wearing them on formal
night as well as Palo. Do many men wear tuxes to Palo ?:confused3

Do you think the Baltic will be more formal than the Med ? :rolleyes1

Should they rent a black or white jacket ?

Thanks ! :grouphug:

It is less and less every time we cruise, but we enjoy the formal photos. DH and DS rent black jackets.

DH will be renting a tux. Most men just wear a jacket to Palo but a few wear tuxes if it is formal night. I have a feeling that the Baltic will be more formal than the Med, but JMHO. You can't go wrong with Black. White will be tough to get more than one use out of.


I personally agree that from my years on DCL since 2002, the use by Med with Tuxes has become less and less, only one Panama cruise had a lot, In the Med in 2007 it was the lowest turnout ever, and i suspect thats due to luggage restrictions on Atlantic crossings. In Palo i was told to take my jacket off for dinner!!

Welcome Back Andrew. You were missed. :wave2:

Thank you, I do like to be around all the time not on/off, -trying my best to help, and in particular on London, but not always made easy. I will drop it there.

The Oyster photocards were really easy to do. The application is online with instructions on the photo. I went online, started filling out the application and when you get to the photo part you can see instructions about the photo. Once you upload the photo you can size right online. It cost 3 pounds. I submitted the application on Saturday and by Monday I got an email saying my photo approved. The travelcards were not good for us because we are going to be in London for 3.5 days before and 3.5 days after the cruise.
Carol

I think the Zip card is the same as the Oyster photocard. I copied this from www.ricksteves.com/books/update/bk-rs-lon.htm and it sounds just like the photocard:
A paying adult can still take up to four kids, aged 10 and under, for free any time of day. Families with older kids can consider the Oyster "Zip" card, which allows kids ages 11–15 to travel all day for £1 on the Tube and for free on buses. The "Zip" card must be ordered online three weeks in advance and requires a £5 deposit and digital photo (pick card up on arrival, details at www.tfl.gov.uk/zip).

I got the 5-10 photocard for DD who will be 9. She is tall for her age and I did not want there to be any confusion. My DS is 11, almost 12, and I got him the 11-15 photocard. Very easy to do online.

Carol

Good advice here on Oyster and Zip.

Go to the website quoted, there is a bit for people traveling to the UK.

Oyster is over 18.

Zip 11>16 and sometimes 18. Reduced prices.

Kids up to 10 are free.

Need photo.

Our prizes are worked out on Zones ie central London is Zone 1, just outside say Docklands Zone 2, I use 6 Zones, It can be used on Tube, train, bus, and some river transport.

How much to load is down to days here, how much you will use and what Zones, ie Heathrow is Zone 6 so more expensive.
 
OK Derek, here is a challange for ya. Out of the list below, pick the top 10 'must see' things in London.

All Hallows Barking-by-the-Tower Religious Site
BBC Television Centre Activity
Bethnal Green Museum of Childhood Museum
Burgh House Historic Site
Carlyle's House Historic Site
City Hall Landmark
Courtauld Gallery Museum
Design Museum Museum
Dickens House Historic Site
Estorick Collection of Modern Italian Art Museum
Fenton House Museum
Florence Nightingale Museum Museum
Freud Museum Museum
Handel Museum Museum
Hayward Gallery Museum
Highgate Cemetery Cemetery
Horniman Museum Museum
Household Cavalry Museum Museum
Institute of Contemporary Arts Gallery
Little Angel Theatre Performing Arts Venue
Madame Tussaud's Museum
Old Bailey Landmark
Royal Academy of Arts Museum
Sherlock Holmes Museum Museum
St. Etheldreda's Religious Site
St. Pancras Station Train Station
The London Dungeon Historic Site
Wesley's Chapel, House & Museum of Methodism Religious Site
Apsley House, The Wellington Museum Museum
Benjamin Franklin House Historic Site
Cabinet War Rooms Historic Site
Dalí Universe Museum
Dulwich Picture Gallery Museum
Geffrye Museum Museum
Gray's Inn Historic Site
Guildhall Art Gallery Gallery
Horse Guards Landmark
Imperial War Museum Museum
Kensington Palace Landmark
Linley Sambourne House Historic Site
London Aquarium Zoo/Aquarium
London Zoo Zoo/Aquarium
London's Transport Museum Museum
National Army Museum Museum
Shakespeare's Globe Theatre & Exhibition Performing Arts Venue
Sir John Soane's Museum Museum
St. Bride's Religious Site
St. Giles Cripplegate Religious Site
St. James's Church Religious Site
St. Martin-in-the-Fields Religious Site
St. Paul's Church (the Actor's Church) Religious Site
Westminster Cathedral Religious Site
Banqueting House Historic Site
British Library Library/University
Buckingham Palace Landmark
Chelsea Royal Hospital Historic Site
Clarence House Historic Site
Houses of Parliament & Big Ben Landmark
Keats House Historic Site
Kenwood House Historic Site
Lincoln's Inn Historic Site
Museum of London Museum
National Portrait Gallery Museum
Natural History Museum Museum
Royal Mews Museum
Saatchi Gallery Museum
Samuel Johnson's House Historic Site
Southwark Cathedral Religious Site
Spencer House Historic Site
St. Mary-le-Bow Religious Site
Temple Church Religious Site
The Queen's Gallery Museum
Tower Bridge Landmark
Wallace Collection Museum
British Museum Museum
Hampton Court Palace Landmark
National Gallery Museum
Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Park/Garden
Science Museum Museum
St. Paul's Cathedral Religious Site
Tate Britain Museum
Tate Modern Museum
Tower of London Landmark
Victoria and Albert Museum Museum
Westminster Abbey Religious Site


Second challange, pick the top 3 things to that you can spend about 3 or 4 hrs.

One more thought while I'm at it. I mentioned to my boss that we are going to London and he said "Oh, the one thing that we always must do when were are there is 'see a play'". I was not aware that this was one of the 'must dos' of London. I know when we went to NYC, a Broadway play was at the top of our list. Also, any reccomendations for currently running plays?

~Mike
 
I don`t know if anyone has mentioned this yet - but our favourite thing to do in London are the London walks www.walks.com - we`ve enjoyed alot of them over numerous trips to London and they are a great way to fill an evening. The ghost walks are very good and usually they finish in a pub.
Another hidden gem is the John Soanes museum in Lincolns Inn Field - it doesn`t get much publicity as it can`t handle high visitors numbers. www.soane.org

Still looking for a St Petes trip - has anyone booked the character ball - is it worth the splurge???
 
Are you taking the *Mickey* again? :goodvibes


OK Derek, here is a challenge for ya. Out of the list below, pick the top 10 'must see' things in London.

Wheres the 'LONDON EYE' on the list, thats a tripple A lister.

In BOLD is the best.

  • All Hallows Barking-by-the-Tower Religious Site
  • BBC Television Centre Activity
  • Bethnal Green Museum of Childhood Museum[/Bethnal green often missed very good!
    [*]Burgh House Historic Site
    [*]Carlyle's House Historic Site
    [*]City Hall Landmark
    [*]Courtauld Gallery Museum
    [*]Design Museum Museum
    [*]Dickens House Historic Site
    [*]Estorick Collection of Modern Italian Art Museum
    [*]Fenton House Museum
    [*]Florence Nightingale Museum Museum
    [*]Freud Museum Museum
    [*]Handel Museum Museum
    [*]Hayward Gallery Museum
    [*]Highgate Cemetery Cemetery If you like Karl Marx.
    [*]Horniman Museum Museum
    [*]Household Cavalry Museum Museum
    [*]Institute of Contemporary Arts Gallery
    [*]Little Angel Theatre Performing Arts Venue
    [*]Madame Tussaud's Museum Pre book, this is a A lister, Baker Street.
    [*]Old Bailey Landmark
    [*]Royal Academy of Arts Museum
    [*]Sherlock Holmes Museum Museum
    [*]St. Etheldreda's Religious Site
    [*]St. Pancras Station Train StationGlad to see this on the list, I have been posting this for months, not just the fast trains, to Paris and Dover, but ''the lovers'' and the longest champagne bar in the UK,
    [*]The London Dungeon Historic Siteat London bridge, very good.
    [*]Wesley's Chapel, House & Museum of Methodism Religious Site
    [*]Apsley House, The Wellington Museum Museum
    [*]Benjamin Franklin House Historic Site
    [*]Cabinet War Rooms Historic Site St James park,
    [*]Dalí Universe Museum
    [*]Dulwich Picture Gallery Museum
    [*]Geffrye Museum Museum
    [*]Gray's Inn Historic Site
    [*]Guildhall Art Gallery Gallery
    [*]Horse Guards Landmark
    [*]Imperial War Museum Museum
    Good if interested in War, at Lambeth North
    [*]Kensington Palace Landmark 5 mins
    [*]Linley Sambourne House Historic Site
    [*]London Aquarium Zoo/Aquarium OK, near a DCL hotel but not Seaworld.
    [*]London Zoo Zoo/Aquarium A zoo is a zoo is a zoo is a zoo.
    [*]London's Transport Museum Museum Very good for kids at Covent Garden, drive a tube train.
    [*]National Army Museum Museum
    [*]Shakespeare's Globe Theatre & Exhibition Performing Arts Venue A lister, try to book, show or tour, near London Bridge and Tate.
    [*]Sir John Soane's Museum Museum
    [*]St. Bride's Religious Site
    [*]St. Giles Cripplegate Religious Site
    [*]St. James's Church Religious Site
    [*]St. Martin-in-the-Fields Religious Site
    [*]St. Paul's Church (the Actor's Church) Religious Site A lister.
    [*]Westminster Cathedral Religious Site A lister.
    [*]Banqueting House Historic Site
    [*]British Library Library/University A lister
    [*]Buckingham Palace Landmark A lister.
    [*]Chelsea Royal Hospital Historic Site-ok, best when flower show on.
    [*]Clarence House Historic Site
    [*]Houses of Parliament & Big Ben Landmark A lister
    [*]Keats House Historic Site
    [*]Kenwood House Historic Site
    [*]Lincoln's Inn Historic Site
    [*]Museum of London Museum
    [*]National Portrait Gallery Museum
    [*]Natural History Museum Museum
    Free!
    [*]Royal Mews Museum
    [*]Saatchi Gallery Museum
    [*]Samuel Johnson's House Historic Site
    [*]Southwark Cathedral Religious Site
    [*]Spencer House Historic Site
    [*]St. Mary-le-Bow Religious Site
    [*]Temple Church Religious Site
    [*]The Queen's Gallery Museum
    [*]Tower Bridge Landmark
    [*]Wallace Collection Museum
    [*]British Museum Museum Free
    [*]Hampton Court Palace Landmark Out of town but A-MAZE-ing.
    [*]National Gallery Museum A lister, at Trafalgar Sq.
    [*]Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Park/Garden Out of town great for the people who like flowers and on a sunny day.
    [*]Science Museum Museum A lister, Free
    [*]St. Paul's Cathedral Religious Site A lister.
    [*]Tate Britain MuseumDo with Globe.
    [*]Tate Modern Museum
    [*]Tower of London Landmark Triple A lister.
    [*]Victoria and Albert Museum Museum A lister and Free.
    [*]Westminster Abbey Religious Site


Second challenge, pick the top 3 things to that you can spend about 3 or 4 hrs.

One more thought while I'm at it. I mentioned to my boss that we are going to London and he said "Oh, the one thing that we always must do when were are there is 'see a play'". I was not aware that this was one of the 'must dos' of London. I know when we went to NYC, a Broadway play was at the top of our list. Also, any recommendations for currently running plays?

~Mike


Do book a play, lots of people booking Love never ends, the Phantom 2 by ALW. You cannot come to London and not see a show, Lion King is good but not like AK.

Avenue Q -Fun
We Will Rock You - Queen music
Stomp
Chicago -Always good.
Mamma Mia -abba songs for the ladies
Dirty Dancing- For the ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Les Miserables Bit heavy but good
Thriller - Live -MJ Tribute.
 
OK Derek, here is a challange for ya. Out of the list below, pick the top 10 'must see' things in London.

All Hallows Barking-by-the-Tower Religious Site
BBC Television Centre Activity
Bethnal Green Museum of Childhood Museum
Burgh House Historic Site
Carlyle's House Historic Site
City Hall Landmark
Courtauld Gallery Museum
Design Museum Museum
Dickens House Historic Site
Estorick Collection of Modern Italian Art Museum
Fenton House Museum
Florence Nightingale Museum Museum
Freud Museum Museum
Handel Museum Museum
Hayward Gallery Museum
Highgate Cemetery Cemetery
Horniman Museum Museum
Household Cavalry Museum Museum
Institute of Contemporary Arts Gallery
Little Angel Theatre Performing Arts Venue
Madame Tussaud's Museum
Old Bailey Landmark
Royal Academy of Arts Museum
Sherlock Holmes Museum Museum
St. Etheldreda's Religious Site
St. Pancras Station Train Station
The London Dungeon Historic Site
Wesley's Chapel, House & Museum of Methodism Religious Site
Apsley House, The Wellington Museum Museum
Benjamin Franklin House Historic Site
Cabinet War Rooms Historic Site
Dalí Universe Museum
Dulwich Picture Gallery Museum
Geffrye Museum Museum
Gray's Inn Historic Site
Guildhall Art Gallery Gallery
Horse Guards Landmark
Imperial War Museum Museum
Kensington Palace Landmark
Linley Sambourne House Historic Site
London Aquarium Zoo/Aquarium
London Zoo Zoo/Aquarium
London's Transport Museum Museum
National Army Museum Museum
Shakespeare's Globe Theatre & Exhibition Performing Arts Venue
Sir John Soane's Museum Museum
St. Bride's Religious Site
St. Giles Cripplegate Religious Site
St. James's Church Religious Site
St. Martin-in-the-Fields Religious Site
St. Paul's Church (the Actor's Church) Religious Site
Westminster Cathedral Religious Site
Banqueting House Historic Site
British Library Library/University
Buckingham Palace Landmark
Chelsea Royal Hospital Historic Site
Clarence House Historic Site
Houses of Parliament & Big Ben Landmark
Keats House Historic Site
Kenwood House Historic Site
Lincoln's Inn Historic Site
Museum of London Museum
National Portrait Gallery Museum
Natural History Museum Museum
Royal Mews Museum
Saatchi Gallery Museum
Samuel Johnson's House Historic Site
Southwark Cathedral Religious Site
Spencer House Historic Site
St. Mary-le-Bow Religious Site
Temple Church Religious Site
The Queen's Gallery Museum
Tower Bridge Landmark
Wallace Collection Museum
British Museum Museum
Hampton Court Palace Landmark
National Gallery Museum
Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Park/Garden
Science Museum Museum
St. Paul's Cathedral Religious Site
Tate Britain Museum
Tate Modern Museum
Tower of London Landmark
Victoria and Albert Museum Museum
Westminster Abbey Religious Site


Second challange, pick the top 3 things to that you can spend about 3 or 4 hrs.

One more thought while I'm at it. I mentioned to my boss that we are going to London and he said "Oh, the one thing that we always must do when were are there is 'see a play'". I was not aware that this was one of the 'must dos' of London. I know when we went to NYC, a Broadway play was at the top of our list. Also, any reccomendations for currently running plays?

~Mike

just popping by as I have cruise envy and wish I was joining you on the Baltic and saw this post. I am clearly not Andrew but as a Uk Diser who lives a couple of hours from London here are my thoughts.

First of all "See a play" do you really want to see a play or do you mean a show? e.g. are we talking about going to see Les Mis or one of the other West End shows or are you specifically thinking of plays. If you want to see a play The Mousetrap is the longest running play in London and has been running continuously for a very long time (I want to say 60 years plus) and is a classic Agatha Christie mystery. I enjoyed it very much.

Regarding your enormous list of sights... I am not familiar with your travel group or your personal interests so obviously art lovers would lean more to the galleries but history lovers would want to see landmarks like the War Offices.

I personally love Tate Modern, also I don't see it on your list but the London Eye is a great way to get your bearings as you take in the views of London. Some of the things on your list are things which you may want to tick off as having seen without spending a lot of time at for example lots of people want to "see" Big Ben and snap a few photos but you aren't necessarily going to spend a lot of time there and could maybe visit on one of the HOHO bus routes.

Good luck, I will be interested to see what Andrew lists as the top ten from your list.

Hope you didn't mind me posting my two cents worth!

Mel
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just popping by as I have cruise envy and wish I was joining you on the Baltic and saw this post. I am clearly not Andrew but as a Uk Diser who lives a couple of hours from London here are my thoughts.

First of all "See a play" do you really want to see a play or do you mean a show? e.g. are we talking about going to see Les Mis or one of the other West End shows or are you specifically thinking of plays. If you want to see a play The Mousetrap is the longest running play in London and has been running continuously for a very long time (I want to say 60 years plus) and is a classic Agatha Christie mystery. I enjoyed it very much.

Regarding your enormous list of sights... I am not familiar with your travel group or your personal interests so obviously art lovers would lean more to the galleries but history lovers would want to see landmarks like the War Offices.

I personally love Tate Modern, also I don't see it on your list but the London Eye is a great way to get your bearings as you take in the views of London. Some of the things on your list are things which you may want to tick off as having seen without spending a lot of time at for example lots of people want to "see" Big Ben and snap a few photos but you aren't necessarily going to spend a lot of time there and could maybe visit on one of the HOHO bus routes.

Good luck, I will be interested to see what Andrew lists as the top ten from your list.

Hope you didn't mind me posting my two cents worth!

Mel
x

:thumbsup2
 
just popping by as I have cruise envy and wish I was joining you on the Baltic and saw this post. I am clearly not Andrew but as a Uk Diser who lives a couple of hours from London here are my thoughts.

First of all "See a play" do you really want to see a play or do you mean a show? e.g. are we talking about going to see Les Mis or one of the other West End shows or are you specifically thinking of plays. If you want to see a play The Mousetrap is the longest running play in London and has been running continuously for a very long time (I want to say 60 years plus) and is a classic Agatha Christie mystery. I enjoyed it very much.

Regarding your enormous list of sights... I am not familiar with your travel group or your personal interests so obviously art lovers would lean more to the galleries but history lovers would want to see landmarks like the War Offices.

I personally love Tate Modern, also I don't see it on your list but the London Eye is a great way to get your bearings as you take in the views of London. Some of the things on your list are things which you may want to tick off as having seen without spending a lot of time at for example lots of people want to "see" Big Ben and snap a few photos but you aren't necessarily going to spend a lot of time there and could maybe visit on one of the HOHO bus routes.

Good luck, I will be interested to see what Andrew lists as the top ten from your list.

Hope you didn't mind me posting my two cents worth!

Mel
x

Speaking of shows, what's the word on Oliver!? We are thinking about taking our DDs to see it at Theatre Royal Drury Lane in June. They absolutely adore the 1968 film version so we thought it would be a fun show to see while in London.

Another question, recommendation for a nice Afternoon Tea? Someplace with a more casual dress code.
 
Speaking of shows, what's the word on Oliver!? We are thinking about taking our DDs to see it at Theatre Royal Drury Lane in June. They absolutely adore the 1968 film version so we thought it would be a fun show to see while in London.

Another question, recommendation for a nice Afternoon Tea? Someplace with a more casual dress code.

Oliver is till going strong. Just recently had a change of Nancy, but those I now that have seen it enjoyed it & it has certainly not been advertised as ending anytime soon. Afternoon Tea is usually The Ritz, Simpson on the Strand, The Connaught etc. If you fancy combining it with a day trip out, the the one at Blenheim Palace (out Oxford way) is good

Celestine
 
OK Derek, here is a challange for ya. Out of the list below, pick the top 10 'must see' things in London.

All Hallows Barking-by-the-Tower Religious Site
BBC Television Centre Activity
Bethnal Green Museum of Childhood Museum
Burgh House Historic Site
Carlyle's House Historic Site
City Hall Landmark
Courtauld Gallery Museum
Design Museum Museum
Dickens House Historic Site
Estorick Collection of Modern Italian Art Museum
Fenton House Museum
Florence Nightingale Museum Museum
Freud Museum Museum
Handel Museum Museum
Hayward Gallery Museum
Highgate Cemetery Cemetery
Horniman Museum Museum
Household Cavalry Museum Museum
Institute of Contemporary Arts Gallery
Little Angel Theatre Performing Arts Venue
Madame Tussaud's Museum
Old Bailey Landmark
Royal Academy of Arts Museum
Sherlock Holmes Museum Museum
St. Etheldreda's Religious Site
St. Pancras Station Train Station
The London Dungeon Historic Site
Wesley's Chapel, House & Museum of Methodism Religious Site
Apsley House, The Wellington Museum Museum
Benjamin Franklin House Historic Site
Cabinet War Rooms Historic Site
Dalí Universe Museum
Dulwich Picture Gallery Museum
Geffrye Museum Museum
Gray's Inn Historic Site
Guildhall Art Gallery Gallery
Horse Guards Landmark
Imperial War Museum Museum
Kensington Palace Landmark
Linley Sambourne House Historic Site
London Aquarium Zoo/Aquarium
London Zoo Zoo/Aquarium
London's Transport Museum Museum
National Army Museum Museum
Shakespeare's Globe Theatre & Exhibition Performing Arts Venue
Sir John Soane's Museum Museum
St. Bride's Religious Site
St. Giles Cripplegate Religious Site
St. James's Church Religious Site
St. Martin-in-the-Fields Religious Site
St. Paul's Church (the Actor's Church) Religious Site
Westminster Cathedral Religious Site
Banqueting House Historic Site
British Library Library/University
Buckingham Palace Landmark
Chelsea Royal Hospital Historic Site
Clarence House Historic Site
Houses of Parliament & Big Ben Landmark
Keats House Historic Site
Kenwood House Historic Site
Lincoln's Inn Historic Site
Museum of London Museum
National Portrait Gallery Museum
Natural History Museum Museum
Royal Mews Museum
Saatchi Gallery Museum
Samuel Johnson's House Historic Site
Southwark Cathedral Religious Site
Spencer House Historic Site
St. Mary-le-Bow Religious Site
Temple Church Religious Site
The Queen's Gallery Museum
Tower Bridge Landmark
Wallace Collection Museum
British Museum Museum
Hampton Court Palace Landmark
National Gallery Museum
Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Park/Garden
Science Museum Museum
St. Paul's Cathedral Religious Site
Tate Britain Museum
Tate Modern Museum
Tower of London Landmark
Victoria and Albert Museum Museum
Westminster Abbey Religious Site


Second challange, pick the top 3 things to that you can spend about 3 or 4 hrs.

One more thought while I'm at it. I mentioned to my boss that we are going to London and he said "Oh, the one thing that we always must do when were are there is 'see a play'". I was not aware that this was one of the 'must dos' of London. I know when we went to NYC, a Broadway play was at the top of our list. Also, any reccomendations for currently running plays?

~Mike

Mike, I really enjoyed the Victoria and Albert Museum and that is a place you can spend several hours, plus it's free. Check to see if the Queen is going to be away when you are there because Buckingham Palace was wonderful!
 
OK Derek, here is a challange for ya. Out of the list below, pick the top 10 'must see' things in London.

All Hallows Barking-by-the-Tower Religious Site
BBC Television Centre Activity
Bethnal Green Museum of Childhood Museum
Burgh House Historic Site
Carlyle's House Historic Site
City Hall Landmark
Courtauld Gallery Museum
Design Museum Museum
Dickens House Historic Site
Estorick Collection of Modern Italian Art Museum
Fenton House Museum
Florence Nightingale Museum Museum
Freud Museum Museum
Handel Museum Museum
Hayward Gallery Museum
Highgate Cemetery Cemetery
Horniman Museum Museum
Household Cavalry Museum Museum
Institute of Contemporary Arts Gallery
Little Angel Theatre Performing Arts Venue
Madame Tussaud's Museum
Old Bailey Landmark
Royal Academy of Arts Museum
Sherlock Holmes Museum Museum
St. Etheldreda's Religious Site
St. Pancras Station Train Station
The London Dungeon Historic Site
Wesley's Chapel, House & Museum of Methodism Religious Site
Apsley House, The Wellington Museum Museum
Benjamin Franklin House Historic Site
Cabinet War Rooms Historic Site
Dalí Universe Museum
Dulwich Picture Gallery Museum
Geffrye Museum Museum
Gray's Inn Historic Site
Guildhall Art Gallery Gallery
Horse Guards Landmark
Imperial War Museum Museum
Kensington Palace Landmark
Linley Sambourne House Historic Site
London Aquarium Zoo/Aquarium
London Zoo Zoo/Aquarium
London's Transport Museum Museum
National Army Museum Museum
Shakespeare's Globe Theatre & Exhibition Performing Arts Venue
Sir John Soane's Museum Museum
St. Bride's Religious Site
St. Giles Cripplegate Religious Site
St. James's Church Religious Site
St. Martin-in-the-Fields Religious Site
St. Paul's Church (the Actor's Church) Religious Site
Westminster Cathedral Religious Site
Banqueting House Historic Site
British Library Library/University
Buckingham Palace Landmark
Chelsea Royal Hospital Historic Site
Clarence House Historic Site
Houses of Parliament & Big Ben Landmark
Keats House Historic Site
Kenwood House Historic Site
Lincoln's Inn Historic Site
Museum of London Museum
National Portrait Gallery Museum
Natural History Museum Museum
Royal Mews Museum
Saatchi Gallery Museum
Samuel Johnson's House Historic Site
Southwark Cathedral Religious Site
Spencer House Historic Site
St. Mary-le-Bow Religious Site
Temple Church Religious Site
The Queen's Gallery Museum
Tower Bridge Landmark
Wallace Collection Museum
British Museum Museum
Hampton Court Palace Landmark
National Gallery Museum
Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Park/Garden
Science Museum Museum
St. Paul's Cathedral Religious Site
Tate Britain Museum
Tate Modern Museum
Tower of London Landmark
Victoria and Albert Museum Museum
Westminster Abbey Religious Site


Second challange, pick the top 3 things to that you can spend about 3 or 4 hrs.

One more thought while I'm at it. I mentioned to my boss that we are going to London and he said "Oh, the one thing that we always must do when were are there is 'see a play'". I was not aware that this was one of the 'must dos' of London. I know when we went to NYC, a Broadway play was at the top of our list. Also, any reccomendations for currently running plays?

~Mike
The top ten will be different for each of us. Taking a look at Andrew's choices, I would keep maybe half of his and replace the rest. Some of my replacements would certainly be on his 'don't bother' list. Perfect examples are the aquarium and the zoo. In my opinion, London's aquarium is a perfect waste of time and money while the zoo coupled with a wander through Regent's Park is a don't miss. Similarly, while we have gone to shows in London on past trips, we'll not bother this time. The shows were no more enjoyed than the ones that we can see elsewhere and take too much time from a somewhat tight schedule. This also brings up another point: Those individuals who live in the area or have visited it frequently are not going to have the same interests as those who are seeing it for the first time, as evidenced in Andrew's choices. Andrew's background is sufficiently different than my own that I have no wonder that he didn't choose some of these, such as the Benjamin Franklin house. I imagine that such a place is insignificant to him but so meaningful to me because it is a touchstone to the life of one of our greatest founding fathers.

Your best bet is to go through your list with your family, scratching off those places that receive little interest and noting those that enjoy great demand. This will whittle the list down into something more manageable and highlight the things that your party sees as 'must does', rather than merely going on the advice of strangers who may have greatly different interests than you and your family.
 
The top ten will be different for each of us. Taking a look at Andrew's choices, I would keep maybe half of his and replace the rest. Some of my replacements would certainly be on his 'don't bother' list. Perfect examples are the aquarium and the zoo. In my opinion, London's aquarium is a perfect waste of time and money while the zoo coupled with a wander through Regent's Park is a don't miss. Similarly, while we have gone to shows in London on past trips, we'll not bother this time. The shows were no more enjoyed than the ones that we can see elsewhere and take too much time from a somewhat tight schedule. This also brings up another point: Those individuals who live in the area or have visited it frequently are not going to have the same interests as those who are seeing it for the first time, as evidenced in Andrew's choices. Andrew's background is sufficiently different than my own that I have no wonder that he didn't choose some of these, such as the Benjamin Franklin house. I imagine that such a place is insignificant to him but so meaningful to me because it is a touchstone to the life of one of our greatest founding fathers.

Your best bet is to go through your list with your family, scratching off those places that receive little interest and noting those that enjoy great demand. This will whittle the list down into something more manageable and highlight the things that your party sees as 'must does', rather than merely going on the advice of strangers who may have greatly different interests than you and your family.

You know I didn't even really look at that list above at first as I am having a hard enough time deciding what we want to do in London as it is, but the Benjamin Franklin House is exactly something my history-loving family would like to see:thumbsup2

http://www.benjaminfranklinhouse.org/site/sections/default.htm
 
Speaking of shows, what's the word on Oliver!? We are thinking about taking our DDs to see it at Theatre Royal Drury Lane in June. They absolutely adore the 1968 film version so we thought it would be a fun show to see while in London.

Another question, recommendation for a nice Afternoon Tea? Someplace with a more casual dress code.

The tour I am taking with Tauck bridges after the cruise is taking us to a performance of Oliver.
 
The top ten will be different for each of us. Taking a look at Andrew's choices, I would keep maybe half of his and replace the rest. Some of my replacements would certainly be on his 'don't bother' list. Perfect examples are the aquarium and the zoo. In my opinion, London's aquarium is a perfect waste of time and money while the zoo coupled with a wander through Regent's Park is a don't miss. Similarly, while we have gone to shows in London on past trips, we'll not bother this time. The shows were no more enjoyed than the ones that we can see elsewhere and take too much time from a somewhat tight schedule. This also brings up another point: Those individuals who live in the area or have visited it frequently are not going to have the same interests as those who are seeing it for the first time, as evidenced in Andrew's choices. Andrew's background is sufficiently different than my own that I have no wonder that he didn't choose some of these, such as the Benjamin Franklin house. I imagine that such a place is insignificant to him but so meaningful to me because it is a touchstone to the life of one of our greatest founding fathers.

Your best bet is to go through your list with your family, scratching off those places that receive little interest and noting those that enjoy great demand. This will whittle the list down into something more manageable and highlight the things that your party sees as 'must does', rather than merely going on the advice of strangers who may have greatly different interests than you and your family.

Nice to see my name mentioned so many times in your post. This will be my only response to you, on this. I will not respond more.

1/ Mike asked my personal opinion, as a person who actually lives in London I responded to him, with my view that he asked me.

2/ Others have given their own constructive and positive response which is highly valued.

3/ Can you show me my 'don't bother' list? I do not think I posted one that you refer you. I highlighted my personal suggestions in bold.

4/ You agree with me on the aquarium, my comment is a zoo is a zoo is a zoo, London Zoo is very good, a walk in Regents park is good, but an example is I am going to Berlin as a stop on this Baltic cruise, the Zoo there is good, but it is not on my personal list as its a 'Zoo' and I have higher priorities. Distinctive to Berlin. The same is for London, the USA has fine zoos, so it isn't a priority.

5/
Andrew's background is sufficiently different than my own
I would like to know how you actually know my background as it isn't published. It will be interesting if you can back this up with facts you know about me, I personally do not know anything substantial on any Disser to make a sweeping comment like that.

In summary I live in London, have seen a lot, in fact passionate about my capital city, and there was a famous saying, if you are tired of London you are tired of life. The issue is actually we take our city a bit for granted when we live here and that walk in Regents park is very nice.

I do feel you have completely missed the point of the question directed to me Mike asked me my personal views, I am not directing anyone in any way what they should do, there isn't any '''don't bother' list'' so you misrepresent me.

Lastly, I do can I say despair about a few posts on these boards, and hence why I post less and less and less, no sooner than you try to respond to an answer, the best you can, someone will make posts like this, not to 'add value' and make positive constructive suggestions but so come back personally. I myself took a decision a while back to call these boards a day, and not post after July, but the few places I post now is where people request information on London. Despite some few negative posts back on me I still come back to try to help people with my local knowledge.

Last night I answered 25 PM's on London, that would imply a number of people would like my opinion. (Tonight 7). Maybe this is why people PM.

Can we please all be constructive, the vast majority would like this. We have different opinions, but all are valid.
 
Andrew I don't think she was being overly negative in her post -just stating that she differed with your opinion in some respects.

People should be able to voice their difference of opinion without being scolded for it.

Obviously your opinion is valued here and there will be people that agree and some that don't.
Like a friend of mine used to say "You have to make like a duck and let it roll off your back".

In other words, not every disagreement needs a huge response.

:flower3:
 

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