The 2009 DCI, WGI, BOA thread

I'm still offering cash for a video of St. Anthoney's Everet doing First Circle!

That show was flawless!

(Yes Wally, Everet MA!)

Those gals were pure class!

Till they opened their mouths! :rotfl2:
 

But they are marching on the actual floor!!! :rotfl2:

WGI now only requires guards to be using equipment for 3-and-a-half minutes of their show. That must be so that they can use the rest of the 7 minutes they're allotted to emote, dance and fold up the floor. :rolleyes:

Seriously......in the 80's most "Independant Open" shows (now referred to as "Independant World") would last between 6 and 7 minutes. But now there are guards whose shows are only about 4:45. It makes me wonder, "Was it really worth waiting for them to unfold/fold the floor tarp up for that?"

(Beware: There's a rant ahead.)

I'm bitter about the direction WGI has taken over the past several years. The guards that usually make the top 3 are now doing dance and are so busy being "emo" that it's hard to remember which guard did what. Sure, they'll do about 2 minutes worth of difficult equipment work which consists a lot of "tricks" (i.e. tossing a 6 on sabre and partially catching it behind their back).....but things like this are never uniform or clean because it's almost impossible to get every member to do it exactly the same due to varying body types and techniques/postures, etc. And oh....my.....gawd.....how does a judge judge technique when a guard has 5 or 6 different small groups of members on the floor each doing something completely different at the same time? Not to mention, where is one's attention supposed to be focussed during things like this?

Winterguard shows are not about the balance of staging and drill any more--It's mostly just about staging. (I've heard teachers say, "It doesn't matter where you're standing, 'Tom'....so long as you're in the top 1/4 of the floor." This makes me wonder, "If this teacher doesn't care, then why should I?" :confused3 There are, of course, some exceptions to this every year, but they're pretty few and far between.

I even e-mailed WGI a few years ago about these concerns and questions, when I was still designing/teaching. I never got a response.

(This concludes today's rant. You may now go about your daily business.) :p
 
I'm with ya MM! :thumbsup2

There is no drill involved in WGI anymore...just "go over there and dance a little!" Whats up with that?
 
I'm with ya MM! :thumbsup2

There is no drill involved in WGI anymore...just "go over there and dance a little!" Whats up with that?

Even the guards that Mike Gaines writes for are breaking away from the drill. Now that's a scary thought. :scared:
 
OMG! :faint:

I just realized that when Mike is out of town, I actually have to read this thread now. :crazy2:

Can we change this to a different sort of band thread? :rockband: party:

:p
 
OMG! :faint:

I just realized that when Mike is out of town, I actually have to read this thread now. :crazy2:

Can we change this to a different sort of band thread? :rockband: party:

:p

Lindy - it's minutes of your life that Mike will owe you!
It's like he's stealing your life. ::yes::


... and the band played on. :sad2:
 
Lindy - it's minutes of your life that Mike will owe you!
It's like he's stealing your life. ::yes::


... and the band played on. :sad2:

I know, I will just lock it when he goes out of town and unlock it when I know that he's due back. :hyper:
 
WGI now only requires guards to be using equipment for 3-and-a-half minutes of their show. That must be so that they can use the rest of the 7 minutes they're allotted to emote, dance and fold up the floor. :rolleyes:

Seriously......in the 80's most "Independant Open" shows (now referred to as "Independant World") would last between 6 and 7 minutes. But now there are guards whose shows are only about 4:45. It makes me wonder, "Was it really worth waiting for them to unfold/fold the floor tarp up for that?"

(Beware: There's a rant ahead.)

I'm bitter about the direction WGI has taken over the past several years. The guards that usually make the top 3 are now doing dance and are so busy being "emo" that it's hard to remember which guard did what. Sure, they'll do about 2 minutes worth of difficult equipment work which consists a lot of "tricks" (i.e. tossing a 6 on sabre and partially catching it behind their back).....but things like this are never uniform or clean because it's almost impossible to get every member to do it exactly the same due to varying body types and techniques/postures, etc. And oh....my.....gawd.....how does a judge judge technique when a guard has 5 or 6 different small groups of members on the floor each doing something completely different at the same time? Not to mention, where is one's attention supposed to be focussed during things like this?

Winterguard shows are not about the balance of staging and drill any more--It's mostly just about staging. (I've heard teachers say, "It doesn't matter where you're standing, 'Tom'....so long as you're in the top 1/4 of the floor." This makes me wonder, "If this teacher doesn't care, then why should I?" :confused3 There are, of course, some exceptions to this every year, but they're pretty few and far between.

I even e-mailed WGI a few years ago about these concerns and questions, when I was still designing/teaching. I never got a response.

(This concludes today's rant. You may now go about your daily business.) :p

I have to agree with you!
 
I know, I will just lock it when he goes out of town and unlock it when I know that he's due back. :hyper:

:scratchin
We could start a thread on the
scintillating sport of Curling as a rebuttal!
Curling.jpg
 












Save Up to 30% on Rooms at Walt Disney World!

Save up to 30% on rooms at select Disney Resorts Collection hotels when you stay 5 consecutive nights or longer in late summer and early fall. Plus, enjoy other savings for shorter stays.This offer is valid for stays most nights from August 1 to October 11, 2025.
CLICK HERE













DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest

Back
Top