tent camping out west?

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Well, we retired but our 401k isn't going to let us travel in the manner we wanted to. We have a tent and everything and my husband thinks it would be fun to try. My question is, is it safe out west with the wild animals? Has anyone done this and what was it like? Any great campgrounds to go to? Anything to consider before trying this adventure? Thanks
 
Where out west are you thinking about? I grew up tent camping, and still do occassionally. I also do RV camping as well. I have camped all over so cali, along the coast, mountains, deserts and lake side. If you give a little more information about where specifically you were thinking about, I may be able to give you a little help.
 
We have never been out west, so we would start in Michigan and just head out seein some sights, etc. Would like to get to Montana and Wyoming and campgrounds along the way. We sould take off September lst and just go until we were ready to come home. We will have a boat that we will carry the tent and supplies in. So you think we are crazy? I am 60 and my husband is 62 so I don't know how this will work but ....
 
We have never been out west, so we would start in Michigan and just head out seein some sights, etc. Would like to get to Montana and Wyoming and campgrounds along the way. We sould take off September lst and just go until we were ready to come home. We will have a boat that we will carry the tent and supplies in. So you think we are crazy? I am 60 and my husband is 62 so I don't know how this will work but ....

Sorry, I won't be able to help you with specific places. When you said out west, I thought you meant more of the west coast.

I dont' think its crazy. You guys are still young. 60 and 62 is nothing. I have been camping my whole life, and I have seen elderly campers.

I would suggest getting an aero bed for sure. It makes all the difference in sleeping. No matter how old you are, you don't want to sleep on rocks. I would suggest the self inflating/deflating type. Also, if you can get a battery operated fan, that would be a good idea. Especially since you are going in September.

I will give you a tip that I like when I am doing tent camping with my DD.....we enjoy going to RV parks that have tent camping. They seem to be a bit nicer, the bathroom facilities usually are never crowded since almost everyone has their own, and there is usually a better market/store on site as well. And some of them have security that patrols. And no wild animals.

If you google you will be able to find lots of information on camp sites and rv parks.

Oh, and one thing that has helped me a lot is getting those logs for a fire instead of trying to get wood to light. 3 hours of a fire without having to stroke it and keep it going. Might be easier for you guys.

If you have any specific questions, feel free to pm.
 

We have lived for 10 years in Colorado and have camped (tented) ffor 40 years from Rocky Mountain National Park all the way to Jasper, Alberta, Canada.

I suggest that you might want to start earlier than September 1. Snow can fly in Montana then. Most facilities at the National Parks close at or right after Labor Day. So, if you start August 1st, here is what I'd suggest:

Ramble up to Glacier. Tent at the West Glacier KOA for a week. No "animals" here but there are plenty of "animals" at the National Park campgrounds. Also the KOAs always have flush toilets, showers, laundries, and free hot coffee in the morning. Go to East Glacier and West Glacier and take your passports and to to Waterton, Alberta, Canada (take $8 US with you as that is the park fee at Waterton).

If you can hike, hike up to Grinell Glacier with the Ranger first thing in the morning to see it before it's all gone (7 miles round trip including the boat rides). Take LOTS of water with you and lunch.

Then dirve to Bozeman and stay a night in the Bozeman KOA. Have dinner at the MacKenzie River Pizza company in downtown Bozeman. If you took the right highway, you will drive past some of the oldest rocks (300,000,000 years old) in the US on your way to Bozeman. Then drive to West Yellowstone and stay a couple of nights in the cabins at Old Faithful. Call the 800 number and make reservations. Or if they are closed, do NOT stay in the park in your tent. Either stay in West Yellowstone at a motel or go to the Jackson Hole KOA and tent there. Spend at least a week in the Tetons and Yellowstone walking, hiking, and driving. Go to the Jackson Lake Lodge and eat lunch at the "diner" counter and watch the mountains.

After that, go out the Hobak Junction highway South of Jackson and turn onto Highway 191. That will take you to Rock springs. Stay at the KOA and go to Flaming Gorge next day on your way to Colorado. Take I80 East to Laramie and go south on 287 to Loveland and go West on US 34 up the Big Thompson Canyon to Estes Park. Stay at the Estes Park KOA and enjoy Rocky Mountain National Park.

From there you can drive to Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Great Sand Dunes National Park, down to Taos, NM and tent at Bandolier National Park. There is lots to do.

So, how long do you want to be gone? Make reservations at every KOA you want to camp at. Why are you hauling a boat? The West is dry and has very few "lakes". Lots of reservoirs but alot of them don't allow boats. And it is not fun to pull a boat through the mountains. But then this is just one verision of a trip out West. There are hundreds of others.

If you go hiking in Glacier and Yellowstone, don't go without bear spray. Don't take it with you to Canada, but give it to a Ranger when you are done.

Have fun! we have done these trips many, many times in tents. Oh, we went to Glacier last summer and hiked for 10 days and my DH is 64 and I'm 62.
 
I have tent camped through Colorado, MT and WY.

Be forewarned that the mountains in the west will more than likely be cold at night. Some of the passes close due to snow as early as mid-august in MT.

That being said it's wonderful to camp out and so many great places to camp where you don't have to worry about big animals (last summer we went camping and must have had a pregnant raccoon...she really dug and found our chocolate and pickles:rotfl:)
 
What great information! Didn't think about it being cold in Sept. It's quite nice in Michigan then and no snow! We can't get away until September so maybe if we go a little farther south outwest? We also will be traveling with a small to medium size dog. Didn't think I would get such experience and detailed suggestions! Thanks alot.
 
We love to tent camp. Now that we have kids, we primarily do drive up camping. We also do some canoe camping. We used to backpack as well, but it's hard when your kids can't carry much of a load.

Wild animals are an extremely minimal risk. In some areas you have to be careful about where you eat and store your food as it will attract animals. In those cases, you just don't eat in your tent, store your food in your car or hung from a tree.

Honestly, it is people that pose a greater risk. Still, I'd wager that campgrounds are generally safer than hotels. Just don't do stupid stuff like leaving valuables laying around in your tent.

We've camped all over Texas, in Oklahoma, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Wyoming, Arkansas, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Kentucky, Tennessee, Western Canada, and probably a few other places that I'm forgetting. We've never had any serious problems with wild animals. We've had raccoons get into our food, but that's about it.

I would advise you to start small and get into it gradually. Don't make your first trip a month long adventure. Buy good equipment, not Walmart junk. During your first night out in a thunderstorm with lousy gear, you'll understand why.

Key things to have are a good tent (we love our relatively new Big Agnes), something good between you and the ground (we use thick thermarest pads), and a good sleeping bag if the weather will be cool at night. You should get a pair of sleeping bags that zip together for nights when you want to snuggle. For really cold nights, it's better to sleep separate so that you can go full mummy.

You'll probably also want a good cook set. I like the IsoButane stoves rather than fiddling with white gas. It's a bit more expensive, but it's less of a hassle than fiddling with liquid gas.

Try to establish a pretty good routine for setting up and breaking down camp. If you work well as a team and everyone knows what they are doing, it doesn't take more than 20 minutes to set up or tear down.

On your last day out, try not to back up until at least mid-morning. Early in the morning your tent is often covered with dew. If you put it away wet, it can mildew. Sometimes have you have no choice. When you do put it away wet, set it back up again when you get home and let it air out.

Be wary of cheap public campgrounds near big cities. While you probably envision camping as a cheap way to travel and see nature, many others see camping as a cheap place to go get drunk and place loud music. That doesn't happen often in national parks and nice wilderness areas. It happens all the time in state and county parks near colleges or cities.

Be prepared for rain. A good tent will keep you relatively dry, but the humidity will slowly make everything damp. If you are car camping, you can always hit a laundry to dry stuff.

Some great places to camp that aren't too challenging include Rocky Mountain National Park, Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Arches, Bryce, Zion, and the Grand Canyon. They all have large camping areas and plenty of support facilities (showers, laundries, restaurants) nearby.

My wife and I have been camping since before we were married. We camped during our honeymoon (including canoeing across a lake and backpacking into the wilderness on the other side). We've camped many times a year every year since then. We've camped in some places just to save money. In other places, we've camped because we preferred it that way. In other places, there was no choice. If you have any specific questions, concerns, or whatever, just ask. Feel free to PM me if you'd like.

Here are a few photos of our camping experiences.

Our tent in Yellowstone National Park. That was in August and it still got down in the low '40s at night.
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On the banks of the Buffalo River in Arkansas. It poured on us most of the trip.
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This was at Goose Island State Park in Texas. It's a popular winter campsite because it rarely gets cold.

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I camped in Aspen in September once and woke up with my beard an mustache encrusted with ice. I think it got down to about 20 degrees. It didn't bother me. My wife, on the other hand, hates it when it gets below 40.

If you are going to camp in September and don't have any prior experience with cold weather, I'd stick with the south. Forget Wyoming, Utah, or Colorado. Maybe Zion would be OK, but not Bryce. I'd consider the Grand Canyon, The Petrified Forest, Big Bend, the Guadaloupe Mountains, and places like that. Don't forget, you can also camp near nice cities as a cheap way to see those cities as well. You have to be choosier so that you don't have to deal with the drunken, pot smoking, radio blaring, hillbilly crowds.

We camped in a beautiful area near Santa Fe once. That was in September when the aspen were changing and it was gorgeous. The North Rim of the Grand Canyon can also be beautiful that time of year, but I'd watch the weather.

Stay flexible. Be prepared to grab a cheap hotel for the night it the weather is going to get really nasty or cold.
 
We have lived for 10 years in Colorado and have camped (tented) ffor 40 years from Rocky Mountain National Park all the way to Jasper, Alberta, Canada.

I suggest that you might want to start earlier than September 1. Snow can fly in Montana then. Most facilities at the National Parks close at or right after Labor Day. So, if you start August 1st, here is what I'd suggest:

Ramble up to Glacier. Tent at the West Glacier KOA for a week. No "animals" here but there are plenty of "animals" at the National Park campgrounds. Also the KOAs always have flush toilets, showers, laundries, and free hot coffee in the morning. Go to East Glacier and West Glacier and take your passports and to to Waterton, Alberta, Canada (take $8 US with you as that is the park fee at Waterton).

If you can hike, hike up to Grinell Glacier with the Ranger first thing in the morning to see it before it's all gone (7 miles round trip including the boat rides). Take LOTS of water with you and lunch.

Then dirve to Bozeman and stay a night in the Bozeman KOA. Have dinner at the MacKenzie River Pizza company in downtown Bozeman. If you took the right highway, you will drive past some of the oldest rocks (300,000,000 years old) in the US on your way to Bozeman. Then drive to West Yellowstone and stay a couple of nights in the cabins at Old Faithful. Call the 800 number and make reservations. Or if they are closed, do NOT stay in the park in your tent. Either stay in West Yellowstone at a motel or go to the Jackson Hole KOA and tent there. Spend at least a week in the Tetons and Yellowstone walking, hiking, and driving. Go to the Jackson Lake Lodge and eat lunch at the "diner" counter and watch the mountains.

After that, go out the Hobak Junction highway South of Jackson and turn onto Highway 191. That will take you to Rock springs. Stay at the KOA and go to Flaming Gorge next day on your way to Colorado. Take I80 East to Laramie and go south on 287 to Loveland and go West on US 34 up the Big Thompson Canyon to Estes Park. Stay at the Estes Park KOA and enjoy Rocky Mountain National Park.

From there you can drive to Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Great Sand Dunes National Park, down to Taos, NM and tent at Bandolier National Park. There is lots to do.

So, how long do you want to be gone? Make reservations at every KOA you want to camp at. Why are you hauling a boat? The West is dry and has very few "lakes". Lots of reservoirs but alot of them don't allow boats. And it is not fun to pull a boat through the mountains. But then this is just one verision of a trip out West. There are hundreds of others.

If you go hiking in Glacier and Yellowstone, don't go without bear spray. Don't take it with you to Canada, but give it to a Ranger when you are done.

Have fun! we have done these trips many, many times in tents. Oh, we went to Glacier last summer and hiked for 10 days and my DH is 64 and I'm 62.

Be aware downtown Bozeman blew up about a month ago. The businesses that didn't blow up are open again including Mackenzie River Pizza. The downtown Pickle Barrel and Rockin R bar did blow up though.

I have tented all over Montana and tent trailer camped in both Montana and Wyoming. You can have wildlife anywhere, just be bear safe. Most campgrounds have bear boxes to keep your food. KOA's usually don't have wildlife issues and will usually know when there is an issue, but they don't always know either. We were at a cabin in West Yellowstone's KOA last year and they were having a bear wandering grounds. Really, your best bet is to follow bear safety rules and then just put it out of your mind. We keep our food in a car or bear box, don't keep anything scented at all in the tent (including soap, toothpaste, deodorant, water bottles, the clothes you ate or cooked in). As other have said, keep bear spray around when you're hiking, make a lot of noise so you don't sneak up on anything.

Mountain lions won't bother you, they usually go after prey smaller than themselves. I've never even seen one in the wild because you usually would only if they are coming after you.

If you hike a lot, watch out for moose, they can be meaner than bears (bears will run away unless protecting cubs). They won't bother campsites though.

Wolves are nothing to worry about either, they'll stay clear of people and campgrounds.

I've been camping multiple times a summer in Montana since I was 3 months old. I've seen bears in a campground twice out of all that time.

Some of my favorite places to go - Glacier, Yellowstone (I don't tent camp in either of these places, though). I lived in Bozeman for 10 years and there's a ton of great camping around that, Paradise Valley between Livingston and Yellowstone, the campgrounds on the Gallatin or the Madison. One of my favorite lakes is Wade Lake near Yellowstone.

Custer National forest campgrounds off of I-90 in the Beartooths or the Crazies.

In Wyoming, Chief Joseph scenic highway right next to Yellowstone is a great place to camp, tons of campgrounds.

If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me.
 
Wow, I just wanted to hop in and say how nice the details of you experienced campers are!
I've only camped at Lassen Park in California, and in Ft Bragg Ca. Both were nice, but I have no details like these people :)
 
Let's see, we've tent camped at Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Bryce Canyon, Zion, Grand Canyon, Arches, as well as numerous other places. As long as you use the bear boxes (if provided) or keep food and other smelly things out of the tent and locked in the vehicle, you should be fine.

The only place I've ever been worred was when we camped in the National Forest outside the Grand Canyon for a couple days. All the campgrounds were full, inside the park and at the Forest campgrounds, so we were just camping out in the forest, which is allowed. As we were setting up the tent, I saw a kitty cat footprint. It was several inches in diameter. DH and I just made sure the kids slept between us that night and that there were no intriguing smells in the tent or anywhere close to us. The kitty didn't come bother us at all.

Last fall, I bought a pop-up camper used off E-bay. It's basically a tent on wheels, and I have no fears of camping anywhere in it.
 
Be aware downtown Bozeman blew up about a month ago. The businesses that didn't blow up are open again including Mackenzie River Pizza. The downtown Pickle Barrel and Rockin R bar did blow up though.

:scared1:

I did not know that.
 
We have lived for 10 years in Colorado and have camped (tented) ffor 40 years from Rocky Mountain National Park all the way to Jasper, Alberta, Canada.

I suggest that you might want to start earlier than September 1. Snow can fly in Montana then. Most facilities at the National Parks close at or right after Labor Day. So, if you start August 1st, here is what I'd suggest:

Ramble up to Glacier. Tent at the West Glacier KOA for a week. No "animals" here but there are plenty of "animals" at the National Park campgrounds. Also the KOAs always have flush toilets, showers, laundries, and free hot coffee in the morning. Go to East Glacier and West Glacier and take your passports and to to Waterton, Alberta, Canada (take $8 US with you as that is the park fee at Waterton).

If you can hike, hike up to Grinell Glacier with the Ranger first thing in the morning to see it before it's all gone (7 miles round trip including the boat rides). Take LOTS of water with you and lunch.

Then dirve to Bozeman and stay a night in the Bozeman KOA. Have dinner at the MacKenzie River Pizza company in downtown Bozeman. If you took the right highway, you will drive past some of the oldest rocks (300,000,000 years old) in the US on your way to Bozeman. Then drive to West Yellowstone and stay a couple of nights in the cabins at Old Faithful. Call the 800 number and make reservations. Or if they are closed, do NOT stay in the park in your tent. Either stay in West Yellowstone at a motel or go to the Jackson Hole KOA and tent there. Spend at least a week in the Tetons and Yellowstone walking, hiking, and driving. Go to the Jackson Lake Lodge and eat lunch at the "diner" counter and watch the mountains.

After that, go out the Hobak Junction highway South of Jackson and turn onto Highway 191. That will take you to Rock springs. Stay at the KOA and go to Flaming Gorge next day on your way to Colorado. Take I80 East to Laramie and go south on 287 to Loveland and go West on US 34 up the Big Thompson Canyon to Estes Park. Stay at the Estes Park KOA and enjoy Rocky Mountain National Park.

From there you can drive to Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Great Sand Dunes National Park, down to Taos, NM and tent at Bandolier National Park. There is lots to do.

So, how long do you want to be gone? Make reservations at every KOA you want to camp at. Why are you hauling a boat? The West is dry and has very few "lakes". Lots of reservoirs but alot of them don't allow boats. And it is not fun to pull a boat through the mountains. But then this is just one verision of a trip out West. There are hundreds of others.

If you go hiking in Glacier and Yellowstone, don't go without bear spray. Don't take it with you to Canada, but give it to a Ranger when you are done.

Have fun! we have done these trips many, many times in tents. Oh, we went to Glacier last summer and hiked for 10 days and my DH is 64 and I'm 62.



Oh my goodness, I just had to share a laugh with you about this campground. DH and I have been visiting Montana every year for about 20 years. We are building a log house on a mountain between Butte and Whitehall. Anyway, on my first visit to Glacier (about 18 years ago) we stayed at this campground. Well, I saw a wolf!!! In the campground!! I ran to get DH, he looked around and sure enough..he saw what I saw. But it wasn't a wolf, it was a scroungy dog with a collar and tags on it..which came over to DH and let him pet it. He never lets me forget that.

I agree, KOAs are consistently clean and kept up campgrounds. Some have camping cabins in case you get tired of sleeping on the ground. And yes, it can snow in Montana before Labor day..it often does. I have been to just about all the places described in your post that has to do with Montana and Yellowstone.

Holy Moley, Montana Zoo! What happened in Bozeman?
 
Great suggestions here - and I say, "Go for it!!" :yay:

I'm also glad to hear that the state of your 401K is not causing you to give up on having fun entirely now that you have retired..:goodvibes To do anything else would be "throwing out the baby with the bath water" - disqualifying the positives and focusing on the negatives..;)

Please keep us updated on your plans as they unfold.. It sounds like a lot of fun - I would love to be able to go to Wyoming and Montana!!! :woohoo:
 
Boy you all are great travelers, we have only driven from Michigan to Disneyworld and stayed in motels on the way down. We did camp in the UP about 10 years ago in September and it did get cold but it was okay for us. I will have to look into all the KOA campgrounds and some of the others you all have mentioned. Yes, we are not going to let the economy get us down. We went through recesssions before but now we don't have to worry about losing a job this time, lol. We will have to pack alot of aleeve and see how it goes. I love the camping pictures, they are beautiful.
 
Well I don't think you guys are crazy at all...sounds like a great time to me. Can't really help out because our idea of roughing it is staying in a Holiday Inn instead of the Hilton.
 
DH and I have tent camped in most every National Park in the western US. After sleeping on the ground A LOT in my adult life(mostly for work) I have to have my air mattress now to keep my hips from killing me all night.:sick: Another important thing I've found for camping is to be organized. I found something last year that I love and wish I had found sooner-one of those plastic tote things with drawers that pull out. It is great for keeping all your kitchen stuff in order.:thumbsup2

We have really only had two encounters with animals on all our trips. While in Bryce Canyon we were packing up and had the door of the truck open. Within five minutes a squirrel had gotten in the truck, ripped open a bag of granola and had it strewn all over the cab.:rotfl2: The other time was a little scarier and we were at a commercial campground on the Western side of Glacier NP. There was a rogue bear in camp scavenging for food.:scared1:It wasn't a grizzly but at 2 am a little freaky. All the national park campgrounds that I can recall have strict guidelines about food storage and most have a bear safe that you use to store your food. They are also really good at educating you about local wildlife. I love the idea of camping in September out west, but like others have said you do need to watch the weather and check in advance to see if the campgrounds are open. Most will be open still in early September I would imagine. You can also reserve campsites through vendors in most of the parks and a lot of them book up early esp. in places like Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon.:sad2: My personal favorite is Bryce Canyon in Utah. That place is beyond beautiful. It makes the Grand Canyon look like a big drab hole in the ground.:laughing: I know you are getting a lot of info but also I would like to add that you need to pick up a book on hot springs. The one I have is old and may not be in print Great Hot Springs of the West but I imagine there are plenty more out there. Nothing better than a long hot soak on a cold fall evening.:hippie: If you have any questions, feel free to pm me.
 
We have tent camped... and i would second the air mattress or a camp cot for sleeping. Also lots of lanterns for light as the mountians and parks are not lite like a city.. but you do get to see stars.. put Bandileer in NM on your list.. it is worth staying at.. also get a national park pass.. as each park charges admission..


Never had an issue with animals but then I keep a bear bag up high and put food in a locked car.. and no drinking after a certain hour so that you don't have to get up in the middle of the night and visit the outhouse,.
 













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