Tell us the ways to beat fast pass+

[Missyrose]

So, I've already received misinformation from Disney? Not a surprise.

Sadly, yes, you were given misinformation. On my last trip, I had an especially tough time with my Crohn's Disease. My DH would get a return time while I was stuck dealing with my symptoms.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Your first sentence is false. Sorry. I know this as a fact.

This was info I provided in my initial posts way back in July.

Sorry, I don't keep up with all of your posts and have them committed to memory.

Do you mean two magic bands linked to your identity in MDE? Those would both work, regardless of which one you used for park entry. Or do you mean one band that is linked to you, and another that is linked to another person? Did you bring a band of someone else into the park and use it for FPs without it being used for park entry?

If so, cool. Should be a nice little side business for someone to start (kidding!)

 

[tcpiii]

interesting read here. Not sure what I will do next visit.

 

[delmar411]

Sorry, I don't keep up with all of your posts and have them committed to memory.

Do you mean two magic bands linked to your identity in MDE? Those would both work, regardless of which one you used for park entry. Or do you mean one band that is linked to you, and another that is linked to another person? Did you bring a band of someone else into the park and use it for FPs without it being used for park entry?

If so, cool. Should be a nice little side business for someone to start (kidding!)

Any active band with tickets linked can be used for FP+ regardless of whether the person has entered the park or not. Unlike FP, park entry is not a requirement for FP+. And I certainly don't expect anyone to memorize my posts! LOL It was just one of the very first discoveries we made about the bands and seems to be an important one IMO.

So for example, my mom and sister were visiting and were using comp passes so no pre-booking FP+ so we used 2 of the kids bands (while the kids were at school) for them to have FP+ so we could all ride together without messing around trying to match up times.

And we bring my oldest's band every time because she rarely goes to the parks so we use hers for YDD to have additional rides on her favorites.

In the very beginning before most people had bands, DH and I would bring all of them and go out in the late evenings and ride a bunch of rides. It was never an issue (even though we stood out using them) and I didn't hide all the bands because I carry them on my purse strap.

If someone wants to start a business, more power to them. Seems like it would be a huge hassle and not much of a money maker unless people are willing to pay big bucks for just a few extra FP each day. Especially since AP holders are limited to 7 days worth of bookings and have to use up a day before another is booked after that.

 

[karamay]

My biggest concern about the new system is the amount of advance research a first time visitor will have to do. I am an over planner (out of excitement) but even so when I went to Disneyland I did play it by ear a bit and collected fast passes when a ride looked like it was necessary. If I have never been on the wdw rides how am I going to know which ones are best to use the fast passes for and which ones am I going to be more likely to enjoy without a lot of research. I enjoy planning but sometimes it is fun to just get on a ride and know nothing about it whereas my next step in planning my first wdw trip is going to have to be researching which rides I want to use fp+ for.

I agree. I am constantly researching for my trip in May and the whole FP+ and Magic Band info is making my head spin. I want to be prepared for my trip but it is making me almost anxious about each day. I know I need a plan for each park, but it is becoming overwhelming...

 

[Robo]

If someone wants to start a business, more power to them. Seems like it would be a huge hassle and not much of a money maker unless people are willing to pay big bucks for just a few extra FP each day.

Maybe someone should have told that to Disney.

Might have saved a lot of hassle.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Any active band with tickets linked can be used for FP+ regardless of whether the person has entered the park or not. Unlike FP, park entry is not a requirement for FP+. And I certainly don't expect anyone to memorize my posts! LOL It was just one of the very first discoveries we made about the bands and seems to be an important one IMO.

So for example, my mom and sister were visiting and were using comp passes so no pre-booking FP+ so we used 2 of the kids bands (while the kids were at school) for them to have FP+ so we could all ride together without messing around trying to match up times.

And we bring my oldest's band every time because she rarely goes to the parks so we use hers for YDD to have additional rides on her favorites.

In the very beginning before most people had bands, DH and I would bring all of them and go out in the late evenings and ride a bunch of rides. It was never an issue (even though we stood out using them) and I didn't hide all the bands because I carry them on my purse strap.

If someone wants to start a business, more power to them. Seems like it would be a huge hassle and not much of a money maker unless people are willing to pay big bucks for just a few extra FP each day. Especially since AP holders are limited to 7 days worth of bookings and have to use up a day before another is booked after that.

Thanks for explaining...I was just joking about the committed to memory part, should have put a smiley there

Wow, I have to say Im kind of shocked at your discovery. Very interesting for sure.

 

[crostorfer]

Hmmmm.......so let's say that I link my military tickets to my magic bands. I have 3 FP+ per person. Now, hypothetically speaking, say mid day we return, sans magic bands, with a different set of tickets, not linked to anything. Could we then pull a second set of 3 from a kiosk, using those new tickets?

 

[ArwenMarie]

If you have active MBs from a resort stay and then you link regular tickets to them, not APs or non-exp tix, does anyone know if you can prebook FPs? (Without another resort stay)

 

[Pooksie]

If you have active MBs from a resort stay and then you link regular tickets to them, not APs or non-exp tix, does anyone know if you can prebook FPs? (Without another resort stay)

I highly doubt it based on what I've read.

Magic bands are just a link to your MDX account. As you probably know the bands themselves contain no information. From what I've read, if some one buys a ticket and links it to their MDX account, they cannot make any FP+ reservations without booking an on site reservation. Conversely, if some one books a night at an onsite resort but doesn't buy and link a ticket, they cannot make any FP+ reservations. It takes both to allow you to make FP+ reservations. Again, from what I've read.

So apparently you have to have both a resort reservation and a park ticket linked in order to make FP+ reservations for the length of the ticket. That's how people are able to make a one night resort reservation and buy a multi day ticket and make FP+ reservations, but only for the length of the ticket period. AP holders can continue to make FP+ reservations into the future until their AP expiration date as technically their ticket doesn't expire until then. But someone who buys a six day ticket and books at least one night at an on site resort, from what I've read, can only make six days of FP+ reservations, and not more than that. So something resets at that point.

So once you used your tickets and FP+ reservations, you would (most likely) need both a new on site resort reservation and a new valid ticket in order to make any more FP+ reservations or you'd run into the same situation that I mentioned in my first paragraph. So far i haven't read anything to the contrary, but it would be interesting to hear from some body who has tried it.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I highly doubt it based on what I've read.

Magic bands are just a link to your MDX account. As you probably know the bands themselves contain no information. From what I've read, if some one buys a ticket and links it to their MDX account, they cannot make any FP+ reservations without booking an on site reservation. Conversely, if some one books a night at an onsite resort but doesn't buy and link a ticket, they cannot make any FP+ reservations. It takes both to allow you to make FP+ reservations. Again, from what I've read.

So apparently you have to have both a resort reservation and a park ticket linked in order to make FP+ reservations for the length of the ticket. That's how people are able to make a one night resort reservation and buy a multi day ticket and make FP+ reservations, but only for the length of the ticket period. AP holders can continue to make FP+ reservations into the future until their AP expiration date as technically their ticket doesn't expire until then. But someone who buys a six day ticket and books at least one night at an on site resort, from what I've read, can only make six days of FP+ reservations, and not more than that. So something resets at that point.

So once you used your tickets and FP+ reservations, you would (most likely) need both a new on site resort reservation and a new valid ticket in order to make any more FP+ reservations or you'd run into the same situation that I mentioned in my first paragraph. So far i haven't read anything to the contrary, but it would be interesting to hear from some body who has tried it.

Makes sense. The re-setting is interesting.

 

[vicki_c]

Makes sense. The re-setting is interesting.

This is still up in the air and has bee being discussed at length on another thread (sorry can't remember which one! Think it's the "Josh is the voice of reason" thread). I think at least one person said they did it with left over days on a ticket and I believe someone prior to that made it sound like they did it with a new ticket. More research is being compiled. . For AP holders, so far, you definitely don't need a new resort reservation to make FPs once you have a MB. That is definite as it stands now.

 

[999DoomBuggies]

some have been claiming that a fast pass + can be used multiple times within the reservation window, meaning if you have a fast + for BTMR from 1:05 - 2:05 then you can ride more than once in this time frame. Has anyone had experience testing this out?

 

[vicki_c]

some have been claiming that a fast pass + can be used multiple times within the reservation window, meaning if you have a fast + for BTMR from 1:05 - 2:05 then you can ride more than once in this time frame. Has anyone had experience testing this out?

It was suggested in that thread that it was most likely just a temporary glitch, with data not being sent back to the server that tracks that.

 

[LoKiHB]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I'm reading quickly at work and don't have time to go through each post...

FastPass + and Child Swap

2 adults
1 seven year old
1 toddler with a MB but no ticket

How is it possible to get more than 3 FP+? Wouldn't the child need to have FP+ for all the rides?

For example:

let's say 4 rides (the actual rides and where they are located, and whether or not we really need FP is irrelevant )

Space Mountain
BMTRR
Splash Mountain
Dumbo


Adult 1 has FP for SM, BMTRR, Splash

Adult 2 has FP Dumbo

Child has FP for SM, BMTRR, Splash but NOT Dumbo

How does the child get on Dumbo with rider swap? Wouldn't you need 2 at least 2 ticketed children to do this?

 

[delmar411]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I'm reading quickly at work and don't have time to go through each post...

FastPass + and Child Swap

2 adults
1 seven year old
1 toddler with a MB but no ticket

How is it possible to get more than 3 FP+? Wouldn't the child need to have FP+ for all the rides?

For example:

let's say 4 rides (the actual rides and where they are located, and whether or not we really need FP is irrelevant )

Space Mountain
BMTRR
Splash Mountain
Dumbo

Adult 1 has FP for SM, BMTRR, Splash

Adult 2 has FP Dumbo

Child has FP for SM, BMTRR, Splash but NOT Dumbo

How does the child get on Dumbo with rider swap? Wouldn't you need 2 at least 2 ticketed children to do this?

You aren't understanding child swap. It is for height restricted rides. Not Dumbo.

Child has no FP for the height restricted rides. Where only 1 adult has a FP. They collect child swap pass. 2nd adult and child uses swap pass to ride. Everyone has FP for Dumbo since there is no child swap there. And actually no one has FP for dumbo because you plan to take a bit of a break playing inside on the playground while you wait for your ride pager to go off and make better use of your FP allotments.

 

[LoKiHB]

You aren't understanding child swap. It is for height restricted rides. Not Dumbo.

Child has no FP for the height restricted rides. Where only 1 adult has a FP. They collect child swap pass. 2nd adult and child uses swap pass to ride. Everyone has FP for Dumbo since there is no child swap there. And actually no one has FP for dumbo because you plan to take a bit of a break playing inside on the playground while you wait for your ride pager to go off and make better use of your FP allotments.

Yeah, I didn't realize I wasn't using a height restricted ride in my example. They were just the first ones that popped into my head .

Thanks for your reply!

So, then, it would be something more like....

Adult 1 - BTMRR, Splash, JC

Adult 2- SM, TLS, JC

Child - JC, POTC, HM


Adult 1 and Child go on BTMRR and Splash, then swap with Adult 2
Adult 2 and Child go on SM, TLS, then swap with Adult 1
All go on Jugle Cruise


Don't the other two FP's for POTC and HM go to waste?

So you are effectively turning 3 FP+ into 5?

Am I following this right?

Please keep in mind, the actual rides and logistics of getting from Tomorrowland to Liberty Square to Frontierland are irrelevant. I'm just trying to understand how it will work with FP+

 

[Trinityloo]

Yeah, I didn't realize I wasn't using a height restricted ride in my example. They were just the first ones that popped into my head .

Thanks for your reply!

So, then, it would be something more like....

Adult 1 - BTMRR, Splash, JC

Adult 2- SM, TLS, JC

Child - JC, POTC, HM


Adult 1 and Child go on BTMRR and Splash, then swap with Adult 2
Adult 2 and Child go on SM, TLS, then swap with Adult 1
All go on Jugle Cruise


Don't the other two FP's for POTC and HM go to waste?

So you are effectively turning 3 FP+ into 5?

Am I following this right?

Please keep in mind, the actual rides and logistics of getting from Tomorrowland to Liberty Square to Frontierland are irrelevant. I'm just trying to understand how it will work with FP+

I think you are getting FP and Child Swap mixed up. This scenario doesn't work because everyone who is riding has to have a FP. From your examples, I am assuming that you are of the understanding that the child doesn't need one of his/her own to ride with an adult who has a FP.

Child swap is used in situations where an adult can't ride due to having a child who is too small (according to the height restrictions) to ride. In this case, a CM will give the adult who is going to stay with the child who can't ride, a pass that will allow him/her to go after the other adult has rided. The bonus here is that this pass allows you to take another rider with you so if you have another person in your party who would like to ride again, they can. This works out great for an older child because then they can ride twice, once with mom, then with dad.

Does this help? I hope that clarifies things a bit!

 

[LoKiHB]

I think you are getting FP and Child Swap mixed up. This scenario doesn't work because everyone who is riding has to have a FP. From your examples, I am assuming that you are of the understanding that the child doesn't need one of his/her own to ride with an adult who has a FP.

Child swap is used in situations where an adult can't ride due to having a child who is too small (according to the height restrictions) to ride. In this case, a CM will give the adult who is going to stay with the child who can't ride, a pass that will allow him/her to go after the other adult has rided. The bonus here is that this pass allows you to take another rider with you so if you have another person in your party who would like to ride again, they can. This works out great for an older child because then they can ride twice, once with mom, then with dad.

Does this help? I hope that clarifies things a bit!

I forgot to add in my second scenario that the toddler is still with the family


So, yes, Adult 2 will wait with the toddler while Adult 1 and Child ride. Then Adult 1 will wait with the toddler while presumably Adult 2 and Child ride. (I'm guessing it is mostly frowned upon to leave a seven year old alone with two year old LOL).

What I'm trying to figure out is if Adult 1 has a FP+ for BTMRR does anyone else in the party need to have a FP+ for BTMRR?

I think I just answered my own question. To me it seems that in order for the child to ride at all, he/she would need a FP+ for that attraction. Just like with FP-. So, unless I'm mistaken, this is not a way to increase the number of FP+, just a way for a child to ride BTMRR twice in one day.

Good Lord, I am confusing myself now.

 

[delmar411]

I forgot to add in my second scenario that the toddler is still with the family

So, yes, Adult 2 will wait with the toddler while Adult 1 and Child ride. Then Adult 1 will wait with the toddler while presumably Adult 2 and Child ride. (I'm guessing it is mostly frowned upon to leave a seven year old alone with two year old LOL).

What I'm trying to figure out is if Adult 1 has a FP+ for BTMRR does anyone else in the party need to have a FP+ for BTMRR?

I think I just answered my own question. To me it seems that in order for the child to ride at all, he/she would need a FP+ for that attraction. Just like with FP-. So, unless I'm mistaken, this is not a way to increase the number of FP+, just a way for a child to ride BTMRR twice in one day.

Good Lord, I am confusing myself now.

Ok, you are confusing yourself. It goes like this.

Adult 1: has FP for SM, adult 2 and toddler get rider swap (seriously you kind of have to keep the other child outta sight for this to work correctly).... Adult 1 rides SM and then adult 2 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 1: has FP for speedway, adult 2 and toddler get rider swap...adult 1 rides speedway and then adult 2 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 2: has big thunder FP, adult 1 and toddler get rider swap....adult 2 rides big thunder and then adult 1 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 2: has splash FP, adult and toddler get rider swap....adult 2 rides splash and then adult 1 and child ride using rider swap

All 3 have Pirates FP ride all together including toddler.

If child is aged 7 or older then have child use their other 2 FPs on other rides that you are willing to sit out on. Or try to sweet talk one of the adults onto the ride with him if the child isn't over 7.