Teen Mom

[powellrj]

Ok, by no means are these moms mature. They are after all Teen Moms!

I think Ambers actions are criminal. Need to be intervened upon. But the other moms are trying, doing and learning. Farrah has done things that made me go "NO! " but you cant compare Amber and Farrah.

Also, those of us that are "mature" parents, dont be so fast to throw stones. We have all had "DUH!" moments in parenting. I knocked my then 2 year old over with my hip/belly turning around to pick him up when I was 7 months prego with his baby sister. He just looked at me like how stupid are you lady and then crumpled his face and wailed. I felt about 2 inches tall!

Does that make me a horrid parent????

Im just saying............

The difference is you had a bad parenting moment, we have yet to see any positive parenting moments from Amber. The fact that she is taking Krav Maga scares me to death. That is not something a young mother takes for fun or weight loss.

 

[Nik's Mom]

Ok, by no means are these moms mature. They are after all Teen Moms!

I think Ambers actions are criminal. Need to be intervened upon. But the other moms are trying, doing and learning. Farrah has done things that made me go "NO! " but you cant compare Amber and Farrah.

Also, those of us that are "mature" parents, dont be so fast to throw stones. We have all had "DUH!" moments in parenting. I knocked my then 2 year old over with my hip/belly turning around to pick him up when I was 7 months prego with his baby sister. He just looked at me like how stupid are you lady and then crumpled his face and wailed. I felt about 2 inches tall!

Does that make me a horrid parent????

Im just saying............

I think we've all knocked things over with our pregnant bellies. You get the prize though. That story is funny.

 

[Iott Family]

The difference is you had a bad parenting moment, we have yet to see any positive parenting moments from Amber. The fact that she is taking Krav Maga scares me to death. That is not something a young mother takes for fun or weight loss.

I agree about Amber and if you will RE-read my post you will see I posted as much. Amber is a train wreck waiting to happen to poor baby Leah........

 

[BARBARAAPPLE]

I am not in any way justifying what Amber did, (I gasped out loud when she kicked Gary in the back when he was walking down the stairs) but we really have to look at the whole picture here. Like someone mentioned above, she may have come from a bad household where she learned this awful behavior. Last season we know that amber was put on meds for depression, but maybe it wasn't diagnosed right, the possibility of bipolar disorder is there. And my final point is that Amber is obviously an extremely lonely girl. In the first season she struggled with trying to get her GED, raise Leah, and just trying to be happy. Amber's family is broken and she doesn't see them much and everything fell through with Gary, so I think when he told her he was taking Leah away she panicked. There's a mother-daughter bond there and she was fighting for her child (again- I AM NOT justifying her actions) by natural instinct. Amber became a mother at young age and dropped out of school and Leah was her only friend.

Gary did the right thing by taking Leah, I think everything needs to be figured out with Amber's mental health before she's allowed to take Leah back.

And I completely agree that if it had been Gary punching Amber, the cops would have been involved. Most likely the clip wouldn't have even been shown. What happened was awful and I really hope everything is worked out.

I don't agree with this at all! I was brought up in a abusive home and I would never think of doing any of these things to my husband. We saw things that grown people should not see and we turned out fine.We don't us the past as a crutch to do things.We are breaking the cycle and she could to if she wanted to. Also I had a child at 18 and would never let any of this go on in front of her. Some people are just crazy and she happens to be one of them.I think she likes all the attention no matter how she gets it.I look at Leah and think she will be the next Catlynn in 16 years if Gary doesn't so something.

 

[maymom96]

The simple fact is if the abuser would have been Gary, the situtation would have been handled differently. I doudt MTV would have shown the abuse and the police would have been involved ASAP. People would not be posting that we need to think of Gary's past and if he came from an abusive home. But because a male is the one being abused, everything is treated differently. It makes me sick!!!
Gary shows all of the signs of someone who is abused. Yes he can be a jerk but he doesn't deserve to be abused. Amber is always saying it's Gary's fault that she gets so angery. Gee if that isn't a typical abusers responce, I don't know what is.
I also just read on Radaronline that Gary and Amber are back together.

 

[powellrj]

Here is the latest update in the newspaper yesterday.

http://heraldbulletin.com/local/x996175276/MTV-says-it-monitors-programs-for-safety

ANDERSON, Ind. — In response to a police investigation into a fight between Anderson residents Amber Portwood and Gary Shirley that occurred while the couple was filming an episode of “Teen Mom,” MTV reports that the situation was monitored by on-scene staff to ensure the safety of both individuals.

Portwood and Shirley are both featured in the reality show, which follows the lives of young mothers who became pregnant as teenagers.

Portwood is one of four teenage mothers originally documented in the show “16 and Pregnant,” which also aired on MTV.

“Teen Mom” is a spin-off of the show, and is in its second season on the network.

In Tuesday’s episode, Portwood is shown hitting and punching Shirley seven times before kicking him in the back as he walks down a set of stairs.

Anderson police caught wind of the fight when they received two anonymous e-mails on Wednesday urging them to investigate Portwood for domestic violence.

On Wednesday, Lt. Paul Boulware of the Anderson Police Department confirmed that police have opened an investigation into the incident.

On Thursday, Sgt. William Casey of the Anderson Police Department added that Indiana’s Department of Child Services had been notified of the incident and the ensuing police investigation.

Casey said no charges have been filed.

Det. Mitch Carroll of the Anderson Police Department said the police have been called to the Portwood home in the 1800 block of Fletcher Street once before.

On April 10, police were called to the scene when Portwood began arguing with a neighbor. No police report was filed, he said, because the situation was diffused by police at the scene.

Police were not called when Portwood struck and kicked Shirley, as depicted in Tuesday’s episode.

Melissa Baretto of MTV gave a brief statement about the incident. “Our role in ‘Teen Mom’ is to document how incredibly challenging and difficult being a teen parent is. In this particular instance, we monitored the situation to make sure no one was in imminent danger and that the child was not there.”

Although the couple’s child, Leah, was present during a verbal argument, Baretto said Leah was not present when Portwood hit and kicked Shirley.

The Herald Bulletin requested an interview with Portwood and Shirley but MTV denied the request.

Contact Brandi Watters 640-4847, brandi.watters@heraldbulletin.com.

 

[sharbear]

How do you send an anonymous email? I didn't know you could do that but hey you learn something new everyday. Who wants to bet they were from MTV personnel?

I hope Amber is able to go to counseling for this. She is a very disturbed person and I am glad that Gary was smart enough to take his daughter over to his mother.

 

[MrsPete]

I felt bad for Farrah last night. I think her mom never allowed her to grieve for ex-boyfriend.

Nah, Farrah's very good at playing the victim (a talent she probably learned from her mom). Does anyone remember that in 16 and Pregnant she didn't tell the boyfriend that she was pregnant, talked about how she was afraid of him, and changed her phone number to cut off all contact with him? And now suddenly she's so sad that he's gone.

I think what she misses are her youth and her freedom, things she gave up when she became a teen mom. She misses the life she had when she was with him.

Gary did the right thing by taking Leah, I think everything needs to be figured out with Amber's mental health before she's allowed to take Leah back.

It's a sad state of things when GARY looks like the better parent. He looked like he was really and truly DONE with her when he was carrying his things out.

 

[maymom96]

Does anyone remember that in 16 and Pregnant she didn't tell the boyfriend that she was pregnant, talked about how she was afraid of him, and changed her phone number to cut off all contact with him? And now suddenly she's so sad that he's gone.
I think what she misses are her youth and her freedom, things she gave up when she became a teen mom. She misses the life she had when she was with him.

As someone who went through a pregnancy as a teen by herself, I disagree. I said what ever it took to help me go through my pregnancy. I hated the father for leaving me while pregnant. I couldn't talk about what I was feeling because no one understood. To outsiders, I was fine. But in my bedroom, I would cry myself to sleep.
If Farrah's parents didn't want her with the father, I would image that played a role in how she acted on 16 and Pregnant. If I had to guess, I would say that her parents told her that all contact with the father (and his family) had to be cut off or they would not help her through the pregnancy.
For years, I cried for the family my son would never have. I remember thinking who would want to date me if the father of my own child didn't want too. It took me many years and then meeting my husband to realize that biology doesn't play a role in what a family is. Farrah is crying for what Sophia will never know or get to experience. You can't blame her for that.

 

[happygirl]

Here is the latest update in the newspaper yesterday.

http://heraldbulletin.com/local/x996175276/MTV-says-it-monitors-programs-for-safety

ANDERSON, Ind. — In response to a police investigation into a fight between Anderson residents Amber Portwood and Gary Shirley that occurred while the couple was filming an episode of “Teen Mom,” MTV reports that the situation was monitored by on-scene staff to ensure the safety of both individuals.

Portwood and Shirley are both featured in the reality show, which follows the lives of young mothers who became pregnant as teenagers.

Portwood is one of four teenage mothers originally documented in the show “16 and Pregnant,” which also aired on MTV.

“Teen Mom” is a spin-off of the show, and is in its second season on the network.

In Tuesday’s episode, Portwood is shown hitting and punching Shirley seven times before kicking him in the back as he walks down a set of stairs.

Anderson police caught wind of the fight when they received two anonymous e-mails on Wednesday urging them to investigate Portwood for domestic violence.

On Wednesday, Lt. Paul Boulware of the Anderson Police Department confirmed that police have opened an investigation into the incident.

On Thursday, Sgt. William Casey of the Anderson Police Department added that Indiana’s Department of Child Services had been notified of the incident and the ensuing police investigation.

Casey said no charges have been filed.

Det. Mitch Carroll of the Anderson Police Department said the police have been called to the Portwood home in the 1800 block of Fletcher Street once before.

On April 10, police were called to the scene when Portwood began arguing with a neighbor. No police report was filed, he said, because the situation was diffused by police at the scene.

Police were not called when Portwood struck and kicked Shirley, as depicted in Tuesday’s episode.

Melissa Baretto of MTV gave a brief statement about the incident. “Our role in ‘Teen Mom’ is to document how incredibly challenging and difficult being a teen parent is. In this particular instance, we monitored the situation to make sure no one was in imminent danger and that the child was not there.”

Although the couple’s child, Leah, was present during a verbal argument, Baretto said Leah was not present when Portwood hit and kicked Shirley.

The Herald Bulletin requested an interview with Portwood and Shirley but MTV denied the request.

Contact Brandi Watters 640-4847, brandi.watters@heraldbulletin.com.

I'm glad that the police and child protective services are looking into the situation

 

[happygirl]

How do you send an anonymous email? I didn't know you could do that but hey you learn something new everyday. Who wants to bet they were from MTV personnel?

I hope Amber is able to go to counseling for this. She is a very disturbed person and I am glad that Gary was smart enough to take his daughter over to his mother.

Sending an anonymous email would be easy, anyone can make up a hotmail account and use any name they want

 

[Starbrite]

Wait did Maci & Kyle just break up I left the room for a minute & I must have missed something???? I could swear she was just saying how she would marry him, now it's over Wow, and she just moved there to be near him.

 

[AKL_Megs]

All I have to say is, is Walmart the ONLY place to mingle and hang out to meet people where Gary and Amber live? Now the BOTH have found dates there.

Catelynn's mom is extremely selfish.

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

I thought tonight's episode was so good...

Here's my take on Farrah, honestly, I don't think her behavior is from being spoiled, it all stems from her mom, that woman is so CONTROLLING! She is even telling her she cannot mourn over Derek! I also remember her telling her on 16 and Pregnant "Farrah it is over, remember WE talked about this." I mean what is the harm in Farrah seeing Derek's sis? Honestly, I think it would be good for her and Sophia. Maybe she can get connected with his family and Sophia will have her dad's side of the family too, maybe Farrah will grow close to Derek's sister, I think it would be good if she had another young mom to talk to, and Sophia would have a cousin to play with. Her mom got me so mad when she said she had to compassion for Derek, wow, your cold! What could he have done that was so bad that you can't feel compassion for him, his parents, Farrah, and Sophia? I think everything Farrah does is to rebel, she can't really handle her mom.

Amber....I can't post what I would like to post b/c I'd get in trouble, but that guy was a SLIME BALL! Ew, we all know what he really wanted. He was just hanging all over her at the table, ilk. She really needs to think about bringing all these new men into Leah's life. I really can't picture her raising Leah alone, the thought scares me. She is acts as though she is grossed out by Gary ("Don't Touch me") she's so mean to him!

Maci, I knew it was going to end this way, Kyle turned out to be a big time jerk. So what do you think is going to happen in the next episode with Ryan (thats his name right, I seem to forget about him and his excellent parenting skills) asking her do you want to be together? I really don't see her going back with him.

And poor Catelynn, I wish she could just get a job, save up money and get out of that toxic environment. Her mom is so awful to her, she really needs help and poor Catelynn just takes every blow, she never fights back. Just because April gave birth to Catelynn doesn't mean that she is a mom. Catelynn made a good choice in giving Carly up and i am sure it hurts her b/c she misses her, but she also knows WHY she did it and I am sure that that gives her strength and it also makes HER a good mom. I feel bad that she didn't graduate HS, but looking at it, the girl had so much more on her plate aside form being pregnant, there was probably so much going on in her home life in addition to her pregnancy, no wonder she missed so many days in school.

Can't wait til next week...and the new moms coming up on 16 and Pregnant.

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

Wait did Maci & Kyle just break up I left the room for a minute & I must have missed something???? I could swear she was just saying how she would marry him, now it's over Wow, and she just moved there to be near him.

Yes, she said that she moved there to be close to him and they never see each other so she asked him what he wanted. And he said he feels like he went from 4 hours away to having her in his pocket. And she said she needed stability for Bentley, she couldn't have him in and out of her life b/c thats not good for him. And he said something like "I guess we gave it a good try?" and left...that was it.

 

[brittsmum1998]

Yes, she said that she moved there to be close to him and they never see each other so she asked him what he wanted. And he said he feels like he went from 4 hours away to having her in his pocket. And she said she needed stability for Bentley, she couldn't have him in and out of her life b/c thats not good for him. And he said something like "I guess we gave it a good try?" and left...that was it.

How could you understand that? I kept waiting for the sub titles like in the previous episodes

I think Ambers new "love" is a con who is out on work visa during the day?

I can't comment on Catlyn because I ff her each time. My feeling is they should've left the show a long time ago.

Farrah? Icky. I can't tell what is fake and what is real when it comes to her.

Does anyone know if they are renewing this crew for next year?

 

[Sweetpancake]

Farrah, my heart aches for that girl and yes i don't agree with the way she speaks to her parents or acts out but I think she's just full of hurt, anger and is still very much grieving.

Amber, omg, her date was SO creepy What a train wreck, that poor little girl.

As for Maci, I could see that coming a mile away. I think where she's at in life and where Kyle is at are two different things. I think it was WAY too much pressure on that guy for this to have worked. Plus with her moving out there. I don't think they were ready for all that and should have taken things a lot slower. But live and learn, it's so hard to see these things in the moment.


Catelynn, that girl is a thousand times more mature than her own mother.

 

[simba20]

I can't comment on Catlyn because I ff her each time. My feeling is they should've left the show a long time ago.

What I love about Tyler and Cailyn being ont he show, is that it shows teens that even though you have given a child up for adoption, you have not taken "the easy way out" and how hard it may be to adjust afterwards. Even though Tyler and Caitlyn don't have a baby to raise, they are still parents and they take their role very seriously. They want to be involved in Carly's life as much as they can, and want to share with her in the future. They also serve as a role model to Carly, as what not to do when she gets older and how even though giving a child up for adoption seems easy, it is a difficult choice to make and live with. Even though Carly is in a good home, who knows what her life will be like 14/15 years down the road.

And I love Tyler to pieces. He has his moments of immaturity (due to age) but since they appeared on 16 and Pregnant, he has been a stand-up guy. Do I consider the anger he went through over Caitlyn talking to her ex to be bad, no. If you have watched him evolve, he had difficulty at first identifying and speakign what he was feeling. This season, I have seen growth in Tyler expressing his emotions.

Also Caitlyn and Tyler could have easily gone through the pregnancy and once they gave Carly up for adoption, they could have broken up or else Tyler could have felt "Yay! I'm off the hook." but instead he and Caitlyn seem in it for the long haul, and he tries to stay involved in his daughter's life. Tyler is a role model for teen guys everywhere as to how to act and be. I think it is important for the show to display a responsible teen dad's perspective (even though Tyler doesn't have a child to raise).

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

How could you understand that? I kept waiting for the sub titles like in the previous episodes

I think Ambers new "love" is a con who is out on work visa during the day?

I can't comment on Catlyn because I ff her each time. My feeling is they should've left the show a long time ago.

Farrah? Icky. I can't tell what is face and what is real when it comes to her.

Does anyone know if they are renewing this crew for next year?

lol me too, when she gave him the option I figured out what he said after he walked out the door lol.

does anyone think Gary will get custody of Leah? Well after everything that happened last week and the police getting involved, it may just happen.

 

[barkley]

I thought tonight's episode was so good...

Here's my take on Farrah, honestly, I don't think her behavior is from being spoiled, it all stems from her mom, that woman is so CONTROLLING! She is even telling her she cannot mourn over Derek! I also remember her telling her on 16 and Pregnant "Farrah it is over, remember WE talked about this." I mean what is the harm in Farrah seeing Derek's sis? Honestly, I think it would be good for her and Sophia. Maybe she can get connected with his family and Sophia will have her dad's side of the family too, maybe Farrah will grow close to Derek's sister, I think it would be good if she had another young mom to talk to, and Sophia would have a cousin to play with. Her mom got me so mad when she said she had to compassion for Derek, wow, your cold! What could he have done that was so bad that you can't feel compassion for him, his parents, Farrah, and Sophia? I think everything Farrah does is to rebel, she can't really handle her mom.

Amber....I can't post what I would like to post b/c I'd get in trouble, but that guy was a SLIME BALL! Ew, we all know what he really wanted. He was just hanging all over her at the table, ilk. She really needs to think about bringing all these new men into Leah's life. I really can't picture her raising Leah alone, the thought scares me. She is acts as though she is grossed out by Gary ("Don't Touch me") she's so mean to him!

Maci, I knew it was going to end this way, Kyle turned out to be a big time jerk. So what do you think is going to happen in the next episode with Ryan (thats his name right, I seem to forget about him and his excellent parenting skills) asking her do you want to be together? I really don't see her going back with him.

And poor Catelynn, I wish she could just get a job, save up money and get out of that toxic environment. Her mom is so awful to her, she really needs help and poor Catelynn just takes every blow, she never fights back. Just because April gave birth to Catelynn doesn't mean that she is a mom. Catelynn made a good choice in giving Carly up and i am sure it hurts her b/c she misses her, but she also knows WHY she did it and I am sure that that gives her strength and it also makes HER a good mom. I feel bad that she didn't graduate HS, but looking at it, the girl had so much more on her plate aside form being pregnant, there was probably so much going on in her home life in addition to her pregnancy, no wonder she missed so many days in school.

Can't wait til next week...and the new moms coming up on 16 and Pregnant.

i'm no fan of farrah's mom, but i have to wonder if there's not a fear factor on her part about sophia interacting with baby daddy's (derek's) family. although the official cause of the car accident that killed derek and a friend was not determined to be alcohol related, derek's mom was later arrested and charged with purchasing alcohol for her son and his passengers when surveliance tapes from a liquor store showed her, the night of the accident, buying vodka for the 3 boys (all were under 21). the video tape showed her shopping and purchasing the vodka with the boys in the store, the vodka was found at the accident scence, and the autopsy on derek (who was the driver) showed alcohol in his blood system.

given the dynamics of farrah's relationship with her mom, if i were mom i would not be entirely supportive of encouraging a relationship with the other grandmother for fear if farrah went off on one of her hissie fits she might go using the other grandma as her new free childcare provider (her track record of responsible parenting is not one i would feel comfortable with).