Teen Decapitated at Six Flags

[Liberty Belle]

The man walked in front of a train. Call him a "child" all you want, but at 17 he should have known better. You want me to feel sorry for someone who intentionally went into a dangerous situation to retrieve something that the park personnel should have retrieved for him when it was safe?

As I said before, I feel badly for his family and their loss. My heart aches for what they'll be going through in the next few days. But I cannot feel badly for someone doing something that they should have known better not to do. I won't be the only one thinking these thoughts, but I may be the only one expressing them out loud.

Wow. We must just be totally different people. When children make mistakes, especially ones that hurt them, I feel sorry for them. Sometimes the mistakes are necessary for them to learn a lesson and sometimes they're stupid mistakes, but I still feel pain for them.

 

[Tinijocaro]

Maybe if he'd have been taught about boundaries growing up and had been allowed to skin his knees a few times if he stepped outside those boundaries, perhaps he would have developed the innate sense of self-preservation that would have prevented this.

Wrong to assume that he wasn't taught about boundaries. Kids do stupid things all the time- even the really nice responsible ones. Maybe you don't have kids, or maybe they are too young for you to realize this, or maybe, you just had perfect kids.

 

[Liberty Belle]

What IS it with you and your insensitivity (if not outright hostility) towards children and families?

You have no clue -- none whatsoever -- what it means to raise a child or the way a child's mind works. Yes, a 17 year old still has a child's brain that still has a lot of growing to do. Parents have to be just as vigilant with teens as they do with little ones because even the best kids make really stupid, even fatal, decisions.

It reminds me of someone else who used to post here. Hmm.

 

[MushyMushy]

It reminds me of someone else who used to post here. Hmm.

I was thinking the exact same thing!

 

[Tinijocaro]

I am with you. He died an idiot.


Of course, some lawyer will tell us why he was invited to go in there and how it was all 6 Flags fault and how the family of this poor kid who was devilishly lured into such and obviously dangerous trap should get millions of dollars as a result.

No one said it wasn't his fault. He acted foolishly, as 17 year old BOYS often do. He is a man-in-training at this age, not yet a men. I'm guessing you have no kids either.

 

[MushyMushy]

No one said it wasn't his fault. He acted foolishly, as 17 year old BOYS often do. He is a man-in-training at this age, not yet a men. I'm guessing you have no kids either.

Exactly. There's no doubt it was his fault. I just can't believe anyone could be so cold-hearted about it.

But then, I love teens in all their foolishness and irresponsibility. It breaks my heart when they are their own worst enemies.

 

[Carly_Roach]

It must be a slow Sunday morning. Anyone else?

I have to wonder if it isn't what was said, but rather who said it. Others have repeated my sentiments in the other thread but they're not being jumped all over like the posse that's jumping all over me in this one.

I guess Cathryn Rose or disneyfav4ever aren't up yet and I'm the only game in town right now, huh? Well, if it makes you feel better, jump away. My opinions haven't changed and won't no matter how many names you call me.

 

[Liberty Belle]

It must be a slow Sunday morning. Anyone else?

I have to wonder if it isn't what was said, but rather who said it. Others have repeated my sentiments in the other thread but they're not being jumped all over like the posse that's jumping all over me in this one.

I guess Cathryn Rose isn't up yet and I'm the only game in town right now, eh? Well, if it makes you feel better, jump away. My opinions haven't changed and won't no matter how many names you call me.

I don't believe I've ever said anything negative to you before. Perhaps if many people do, you should think about what you're saying and how you're saying it. Oftentimes it's not what we say, but how we say it. You're coming across as very callous and that's not something people usually respond to very warmly.

As for other posters saying the same thing, the only one I see being as callous as you are is SeeVee and I just don't want to go there as it seems her posts are more political.

 

[Mkrop]

It must be a slow Sunday morning. Anyone else?

I have to wonder if it isn't what was said, but rather who said it. Others have repeated my sentiments in the other thread but they're not being jumped all over like the posse that's jumping all over me in this one.

I guess Cathryn Rose isn't up yet and I'm the only game in town right now, eh? Well, if it makes you feel better, jump away. My opinions haven't changed and won't no matter how many names you call me.

boy you think a lot of yourself dont you???

No it is not about who said it but there is definitely a pattern to your posts.

I read the other thread and that thread is totally differnt in its tone then your comment here, people are pointing out the stupid idea that the kid did, that the park is not to blame, that the child is to blame, and yes unfortunately he is.

But you crossed a line blaming his parents and his upbringing, which you have no idea about, as fault for what he did. That is just an illogical statement bc those of us who were teens once or have teens know that no matter what we were taught, teens will still engage in risky behavior, the whole "superman" theory.

I actually agree with one of your statements on the other thread about, how badly I feel for the people riding the ride who now played a part in this child's death due to no cirmcustances of their own.

 

[DisTeach1]

As I said before, I feel badly for his family and their loss. My heart aches for what they'll be going through in the next few days. But I cannot feel badly for someone doing something that they should have known better not to do. I won't be the only one thinking these thoughts, but I may be the only one expressing them out loud.

Acutally, they are going to be "going through" it for more than a few days...Forever really.

And, unfortunately, stupidity doesn't stop at 17. Like someone else said, this is exactly what is so scary about teenagers...no common sense, and some of them end up dead. I did stupid things throughout college. I hope my son has more sense and I worry about it all the time.

 

[Carly_Roach]

I don't believe I've ever said anything negative to you before. Perhaps if many people do, you should think about what you're saying and how you're saying it.

I don't take advice OR orders from the 100+ who've made it their business to stalk every post that's made by me and others here in order to drive us from this board. As I've said before, others have repeated my sentiments about this situation and I don't see you guys jumping all over them. Ergo, this is yet another case of "let's beat up the person we don't like".

Now if you'll excuse me, I have conversations going on elsewhere. Enjoy your Sunday.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

boy you think a lot of yourself dont you???

No it is not about who said it but there is definitely a pattern to your posts.

I read the other thread and that thread is totally differnt in its tone then your comment here, people are pointing out the stupid idea that the kid did, that the park is not to blame, that the child is to blame, and yes unfortunately he is.

But you crossed a line blaming his parents and his upbringing, which you have no idea about, as fault for what he did. That is just an illogical statement bc those of us who were teens once or have teens know that no matter what we were taught, teens will still engage in risky behavior, the whole "superman" theory.

I actually agree with one of your statements on the other thread about, how badly I feel for the people riding the ride who now played a part in this child's death due to no cirmcustances of their own.

 

[Liberty Belle]

I don't take advice OR orders from the 100+ who've made it their business to stalk every post that's made by me and others here in order to drive us from this board. As I've said before, others have repeated my sentiments about this situation and I don't see you guys jumping all over them. Ergo, this is yet another case of "let's beat up the person we don't like".

Now if you'll excuse me, I have conversations going on elsewhere. Enjoy your Sunday.

You do seem rather concerned about what people think of you. Again, if your goal is for others to not react negatively to what you post, perhaps you should change your posting style. You might want to re-read why people said they responded to you and not the others. You don't seem to understand.

I don't know you, so I can't say if I like you or not, but I'm certainly leaning in one direction and just from this thread, alone. I, in no way, stalk you or search out your posts.

 

[agnes!]

It must be a slow Sunday morning. Anyone else?

I have to wonder if it isn't what was said, but rather who said it. Others have repeated my sentiments in the other thread but they're not being jumped all over like the posse that's jumping all over me in this one.

I guess Cathryn Rose isn't up yet and I'm the only game in town right now, eh? Well, if it makes you feel better, jump away. My opinions haven't changed and won't no matter how many names you call me.

Wonder away. Frankly my dear, I couldn't care less WHO said it, what matters to me is WHAT was said. I haven't seen the other thread you're speaking of and I am not the member of any so-called "posse". I haven't called you names, I doubt your opinions will change and I am not posting on this thread in a vain effort to somehow change them.

So here are MY opinions.
Someone is dead, they were stupid and foolish and they DIED.
Someone's son, brother, nephew, friend, grandchild, student, classmate died a horrible death. And even though this teenager made a series of impulsive willful choices that resulted in his death, he did not set out to die that day in an amusement park.

It is a horrible, avoidable tragedy.

agnes!

 

[Darth Cupcake]

He had to scale two six-foot fences to get into a place that was closed off for a very good reason. While I feel sorry for his family's loss, I also feel that this was a case of someone paying a high stupidity tax. Maybe if he'd have been taught about boundaries growing up and had been allowed to skin his knees a few times if he stepped outside those boundaries, perhaps he would have developed the innate sense of self-preservation that would have prevented this.

Well then I am lucky to be alive as I've done several really stupid things in my life.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

Trying to get back on topic,

The child made a terrible mistake, and paid for it with his life. I feel sad for his family, friends, and everyone who had to witness this tragedy, and my thoughts and prayers go out to them.

 

[agnes!]

Trying to get back on topic,

The child made a terrible mistake, and paid for it with his life. I feel sad for his family, friends, and everyone who had to witness this tragedy, and my thoughts and prayers go out to them.

Exactly.
agnes!

 

[LakeAriel]

I think the comment by someone else.."He died an idiot" is even more offensive..if that is possible! He made a very bad decision..we often do..Not only is he dead, he was decapitated..possibly the most gruesome death possible for his loved ones and those who witnessed it, to live with..

Funny. Carly aren't you the same person who repeatedly commends the Dis for banning the "mean" "nasty" people?

 

[Allison]

It must be a slow Sunday morning. Anyone else?

I have to wonder if it isn't what was said, but rather who said it. Others have repeated my sentiments in the other thread but they're not being jumped all over like the posse that's jumping all over me in this one.

I guess Cathryn Rose or disneyfav4ever aren't up yet and I'm the only game in town right now, huh? Well, if it makes you feel better, jump away. My opinions haven't changed and won't no matter how many names you call me.

I guess I missed anyone else making assumptions about how he was raised and I have read the other thread.

 

[minkydog]

My family raised me very well, I was not sheltered, but as a teenager I didnt always use the best judgement when it came to safety. When I look back now at 38 what I did as a teen and the decisions I made I cringe

Me, too. I am a pretty smart cookie most of the time, but at 17...sheesh. I don't even want to think about it.

I have a DS21 and a DD15, who have been raised as well as I possibly could, but I never forget that they are capable of making their own decisions. Each of them has made some foolish choices--fortunately, none of them has been life-threatening or permanent. But I can totally see a 17yo thinking he could just jump that fence and run in there real quick to retrieve something and get out before anyone could catch him. They have no sense of mortality at that age. Yeah, he probably knew that he *could* get hurt, but I'm sure he just thought this would be kind of an adventure to brag about. Not that he could be killed in a most grisly way.

It was an unfortunate accident and I feel very sorry for his parents. I can't imagine the wrenching sadness they must feel.