Taking children shopping

[hydster]

Why is it that children are expected to behave in all social situations but the jerk in front of me at a department store yesterday, threw an all out temper tantrum, including swearing and throwing insult after insult at the lady checking him out but, was not punshied by anyone because he is an adult? I mean why are children held to a higher standard than say this guy?

If kids need to be removed when having any kind of meltdown the same should be true of adults like the jerk in front of me. Why is it acceptable for an adult to "lose it" but not a child?

This guy was old enough to know better but still chose to let it all out. While he wasn't shrieking a high pitch wail or crying incessantly he was yelling loud enough for everyone on the bottom floor to hear. It went on for a good 5-10 min. It was very annoying for those of us around him and yet no removed him and made him go out to the car, put himself in timeout until he could behave better and then allowed him to return. His tantrum was a result of not getting his way...just like a child in a store.

Children should be taught to behave but then so should adults. I find the adult versions of "whining" to be way more annoying than a child because an adult SHOULD know how to behave in all social situations.

 

[katerkat]

Saying that people that don't use cloth diapers are lazy is ridiculous. In these days and times, how many people do you know that have time for washing, drying and folding cloth diapers? Not to mention the diaper rash problems that accompany the cloth diapers.

Can I just go off-topic and defend cloth diapers? They're pretty different from what most people probably remember, and don't cause near the diaper rashes they (must have) used to. My son has never gotten a rash from his - and I don't change him all that often. And I really don't spend that much time washing - maybe 5 minutes a night taking care of that day's, then 2x a week doing the load while the baby naps, just like how I do any other load of laundry. And folding? Are you kidding me? They sit in a basket and I pick out what I need!

 

[delilah]

Why is it that children are expected to behave in all social situations but the jerk in front of me at a department store yesterday, threw an all out temper tantrum, including swearing and throwing insult after insult at the lady checking him out but, was not punshied by anyone because he is an adult? I mean why are children held to a higher standard than say this guy?

If kids need to be removed when having any kind of meltdown the same should be true of adults like the jerk in front of me. Why is it acceptable for an adult to "lose it" but not a child?

This guy was old enough to know better but still chose to let it all out. While he wasn't shrieking a high pitch wail or crying incessantly he was yelling loud enough for everyone on the bottom floor to hear. It went on for a good 5-10 min. It was very annoying for those of us around him and yet no removed him and made him go out to the car, put himself in timeout until he could behave better and then allowed him to return. His tantrum was a result of not getting his way...just like a child in a store.

Children should be taught to behave but then so should adults. I find the adult versions of "whining" to be way more annoying than a child because an adult SHOULD know how to behave in all social situations.

Excellent points; I have seen many more adults acting out than I have seen children over the years. We have, in fact, called the police to have adults acting out removed from our office when they became a perceived threat to our safety. But, I guess, in those particular instances, they didn't go unpunished. In fact, when my son was young (about three or four or so), he was so frightened by an adult having a tantrum at McDonald's that we needed to leave.

 

[Mskanga]

Katerkat you don't have to defend or justify why you use cloth diapers with your child , I honestly don't have a problem with people who chose to do that , if it floats their boat that's fine with me , but for someone ( not you ) to say that people who do not use cloth diapers is because they are lazy is just plain wrong.
Cloth diapers is just not my cup of tea , but if other people like it I am ok with it as long as they are not disrespectful towards me , especially when it doesn't affect them in any way.

 

[poohbears5]

Why is it that children are expected to behave in all social situations but the jerk in front of me at a department store yesterday, threw an all out temper tantrum, including swearing and throwing insult after insult at the lady checking him out but, was not punshied by anyone because he is an adult? I mean why are children held to a higher standard than say this guy?

If kids need to be removed when having any kind of meltdown the same should be true of adults like the jerk in front of me. Why is it acceptable for an adult to "lose it" but not a child?

This guy was old enough to know better but still chose to let it all out. While he wasn't shrieking a high pitch wail or crying incessantly he was yelling loud enough for everyone on the bottom floor to hear. It went on for a good 5-10 min. It was very annoying for those of us around him and yet no removed him and made him go out to the car, put himself in timeout until he could behave better and then allowed him to return. His tantrum was a result of not getting his way...just like a child in a store.

Children should be taught to behave but then so should adults. I find the adult versions of "whining" to be way more annoying than a child because an adult SHOULD know how to behave in all social situations.

Maybe he was child that was never taught or removed so he never was made aware that other people do not enjoy his melt down. He has the its about me attitude. Just a guess.

 

[alliecats]

ok..I have a 13 year old...was she an angel in every store we went to? HECKKKKKKKKKKKK NOOOOOOOOOO...would i remove myself and her if she had a fit? HECKKKKKKKKKKKK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I CANNOT fathom how anyone would think it's ok for their child to act up in a store. Perhaps I was a bad mother that never had to run out for diapers because I chose to use CLOTH diapers? So I don't want to hear that you HAD to run to the store for ANY reason.

If your kid is acting up...REMOVE THEM..

I was a single mother, no baby sitters when i needed to 'go to the store', I just simply made sure that if i needed formula, i STOCKED UP..i didn't say 'i need diapers' because I did the cloth diaper thing..sorry..it's lazy not to...

On my way home from work I would buy formula or what I needed for the house to MAKE SURE i did not bring a baby to the store. There are wayyy too many germs to be exposed to, wayyy to many people, and wayyyyyyyyy too much noise. I was a SINGLE MOTHER and accomplished this.

so all you people that say they need to take their screaming heathens to a store to shop..get over it...leave them at home or don't get mad when people sneeze on them. If you don't want the parents that can control their children and can teach them manners (like a two year old having a pacifier..what is THAT???that's bad parenting is what it is)then I would suggest using the same credit card you use to pay the internet to pay for a grocery store that delivers. There are many of them.

I don't want to see your out of control kids and have it blamed on ADD or some other crap...swat the kids butt...pay attention to them, get off the computer, and then maybe they will respect you.

Good God, you're judgemental!

 

[katerkat]

Katerkat you don't have to defend or justify why you use cloth diapers with your child , I honestly don't have a problem with people who chose to do that , if it floats their boat that's fine with me , but for someone ( not you ) to say that people who do not use cloth diapers is because they are lazy is just plain wrong.
Cloth diapers is just not my cup of tea , but if other people like it I am ok with it as long as they are not disrespectful towards me , especially when it doesn't affect them in any way.

I'm not defending my choice - more just that they don't really cause diaper rashes anymore (you should see some of the new cloth - just like disposables!) and they don't take that much more time. I just don't want cloth to get a bad rap because of that disrespectful poster!

 

[delilah]

ok..I have a 13 year old....

If you have a 13yo, then why in your post of 12-28-05 did you state that you were married for only 5 (or 6) years, and you were childless? Which is it?
Childless or have a 13yo? Huh?

 

[kbkids]

If you have a 13yo, then why in your post of 12-28-05 did you state that you were married for only 5 (or 6) years, and you were childless? Which is it?
Childless or have a 13yo? Huh?

She's mentioned earlier that she was a single mom before, so I'm assuming, child from an earlier marriage. If you're talking about the upcoming anniversary trip, I just assumed she wasn't taking the child.

But, still agree that a good portion of her recent posts haven't exactly been kind. But did provide for some good entertainment last night when I couldn't sleep.

 

[hentob]

If you have a 13yo, then why in your post of 12-28-05 did you state that you were married for only 5 (or 6) years, and you were childless? Which is it?
Childless or have a 13yo? Huh?

<Scooby voice on>
RUT-ROH!
<Scooby voice off>

Holy smokes.

 

[Mskanga]

They were childless for the trip....no kids to worry about for that trip.

 

[chobie]

When did being a parent become so competitive? No other subject comes with such angry, dogmatic absolutes then a subject involving children.

Personally, I think its a reflection of a culture that truly does not value its children as human beings and future members of society. It's more like we view them as private property.

 

[RobinMarie]

Ah, but perhaps she will realize that the "pack" agrees she is very, very wrong. And then perhaps she will take a second look at herself and realize what she is posting is outright lies.

Furthermore, if she is insulted by her own words....so be it. It is very scary that she may be put in a position to help others one day

The pack can PM the poster if it is a message intended only for them.

Where's that beat a dead horse smilie when ya need it?

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Where's that beat a dead horse smilie when ya need it?

The poster possibly will not return--could have been a hit and run attack.

 

[ChristmasElf]

If you have a 13yo, then why in your post of 12-28-05 did you state that you were married for only 5 (or 6) years, and you were childless? Which is it?
Childless or have a 13yo? Huh?

Maybe she was scouring over the boards, decided she just HAD to chime in so "cooked up" this imaginary 13 year old to sound experienced. She then goes on to post as if she knows whst she is talking about.
hmmmmm am I right, or am I right????

 

[hentob]

The pack can PM the poster if it is a message intended only for them.

Where's that beat a dead horse smilie when ya need it?

 

[KathyTX]

Okie-dokie... looks like we're done here.