Swine Flu News

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For those who are interested in keeping up with what's going on in the world with regard to the swine flu.

this site is very up to date and is where I get most of my info.

www.trancy.net

This is an article from that site.



July 13: Study suggests H1N1 virus more dangerous than suspected
Automatically added to News @ July 13th, 2009

source: A new, highly detailed study of the H1N1 flu virus shows that the pathogen is more virulent than previously thought.

Writing in a fast-tracked report published today (July 13, 2009) in the journal Nature, an international team of researchers led by University of Wisconsin-Madison virologist Yoshihiro Kawaoka provides a detailed portrait of the pandemic virus and its pathogenic qualities.

In contrast with run-of-the-mill seasonal flu viruses, the H1N1virus exhibits an ability to infect cells deep in the lungs, where it can cause pneumonia and, in severe cases, death. Seasonal viruses typically infect only cells in the upper respiratory system.

“There is a misunderstanding about this virus,” says Kawaoka, a professor of pathobiological sciences at the UW-Madison School of Veterinary Medicine and a leading authority on influenza. “People think this pathogen may be similar to seasonal influenza. This study shows that is not the case. There is clear evidence the virus is different than seasonal influenza.”

The ability to infect the lungs, notes Kawaoka, is a quality frighteningly similar to those of other pandemic viruses, notably the 1918 virus, which killed tens of millions of people at the tail end of World War I. There are likely other similarities to the 1918 virus, says Kawaoka, as the study also showed that people born before 1918 harbor antibodies that protect against the new H1N1 virus.

And it is possible, he adds, that the virus could become even more pathogenic as the current pandemic runs its course and the virus evolves to acquire new features. It is now flu season in the world’s southern hemisphere, and the virus is expected to return in force to the northern hemisphere during the fall and winter flu season.

To assess the pathogenic nature of the H1N1 virus, Kawaoka and his colleagues infected different groups of mice, ferrets and non-human primates – all widely accepted models for studies of influenza – with the pandemic virus and a seasonal flu virus. They found that the H1N1 virus replicates much more efficiently in the respiratory system than seasonal flu and causes severe lesions in the lungs similar to those caused by other more virulent types of pandemic flu.

“When we conducted the experiments in ferrets and monkeys, the seasonal virus did not replicate in the lungs,” Kawaoka explains. “The H1N1 virus replicates significantly better in the lungs.”

The new study was conducted with samples of the virus obtained from patients in California, Wisconsin, the Netherlands and Japan.

The new Nature report also assessed the immune response of different groups to the new virus. The most intriguing finding, according to Kawaoka, is that those people exposed to the 1918 virus, all of whom are now in advanced old age, have antibodies that neutralize the H1N1 virus. “The people who have high antibody titers are the people born before 1918,” he notes.

Kawaoka says that while finding the H1N1 virus to be a more serious pathogen than previously reported is worrisome, the new study also indicates that existing and experimental antiviral drugs can form an effective first line of defense against the virus and slow its spread.

There are currently three approved antiviral compounds, according to Kawaoka, whose team tested the efficacy of two of those compounds and the two experimental antiviral drugs in mice. “The existing and experimental drugs work well in animal models, suggesting they will work in humans,” Kawaoka says.

Antiviral drugs are viewed as a first line of defense, as the development and production of mass quantities of vaccines take months at best.

In addition to his appointment at UW-Madison, Kawaoka also is a professor at the University of Tokyo. The new study was funded by grants from the U.S. National Institutes of Health, and the Japanese Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology.
 
Wow, that's scary - and it's why I always roll my eyes when I read a post about swine flu and someone says they aren't panicking because "it's just like the regular flu."

The point is, this flu is new and we don't know WHAT it's like - or whether it's like anything else we have dealt with in the past.

I'm not going to hoard canned food but I will be keeping an eye on things and will restrict some of my around town activities if it becomes really widespread in the fall.
 
I read somewhere that some believe that because it has been so active this Spring and Summer, it may not be able to be extremely active this Fall and Winter. The theory is that many, many more people now have antibodies to it, so it will not be as bad as it could have been if it wasn't active during Spring and Summer.
 
This makes me really nervous. We're travelling across seas to visit my family that I haven't seen in a year. A trip I'm not going to reschedule unless I absolutely have to, but this really makes me nervous about being in the airports and in the stupid airplane.
 

I haven't read that, but I do know that these pandemics always come in two or more waves, the second usually being the most severe. Only a very small percentage of people have gotten swine flu so far. Not enough to say that most people are immune to it now. If that were the case, the virus would have to stay the same in order for there to be immunity-if it changes a lot, there will most likely not be immunity.
 
Chances are I've had it. They've stopped testing for it around here unless you are hospitalized because the state lab was so backed up. According to my dr. 83% of the flu strains out there right now fall into H1N1. I tested positive for flu about 6 weeks ago but since I didn't end up in the hospital, they didn't test further. I definitely was sicker than I have been in a LONG time. Temp of 103, chills, aches, upset stomach, the works. I also know a few neighbors who were told the same thing.

They do expect the fall/winter flu to be pretty bad, but actual cases of swine flu are most likely grossly under reported right now. I know of 4 people, myself included, that were "unofficially" told they most likely had it but none of us were reported to the state as none of us were hospitalized.
 
I am not overly worried about the swine flu. Yes, there have been deaths but I am not all that scared. Many people who have good immune systems get this flu and survive. In the United States the death rate is still below .75% of confirmed and probable cases. I know then are working on a vaccine but I won't vaccinate myself.

I hope that people will take the necessary precautions and make sure to wash their hands and cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze. If a vaccine is available and you want it I think it is great that it will be an option.
 
Are they getting the swine flu in the southern hemisphere now, since it's their flu season, or will it not take hold there until *next* year?

I wonder how many people they tested who were born before 1918? There can't be too many around and available for testing!
 
I've run a fever for 6 days and have a terrible cough. I'm a bit worried about my lungs and I'm seeing the doctor today at 3:15. I'm wondering if they'll test for H1N1 or not. I'm worried. I guess I'll update when I return.
 
Are they getting the swine flu in the southern hemisphere now, since it's their flu season, or will it not take hold there until *next* year?
It's doing it's thing in teh Southern Hemisphere right now.
 
I have asthma, so I am taking this seriously. I plan to be vaccinated as soon as I am allowed to be. I have been getting a little frustrated with news reports about the deaths because they always tack on how the person had "underlying health issues". I know they are trying to avoid panic, but the people who have been dying are young. I don't really think too many people in their 20s and 30s are okay with dying this year simply because they have asthma (or even conditions like pregnancy). I am praying that this pandemic will weaken and run its course quickly rather than stregthen!
 
Looks like the vaccine could take longer than originally thought.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090713/ap_on_he_me/eu_med_swine_flu_vaccine_1


WHO: No licensed swine flu vaccine til end of year
AP


By MARIA CHENG, AP Medical Writer Maria Cheng, Ap Medical Writer – Mon Jul 13, 12:13 pm ET

LONDON – A fully licensed swine flu vaccine might not be available until the end of the year, a top official at the World Health Organization said Monday, in a report that could affect many countries' vaccination plans.

But countries could use emergency provisions to get the vaccines out quicker if they decide their populations need them, Marie-Paule Kieny, director of WHO's Initiative for Vaccine Research, said during a news conference.

The swine flu viruses currently being used to develop a vaccine aren't producing enough of the ingredient needed for the vaccine, and WHO has asked its laboratory network to produce a new set of viruses as soon as possible.

So far, the swine flu viruses being used are only producing about half as much "yield" to make vaccines as regular flu viruses.

Last week, WHO reported nearly 95,000 cases of swine flu worldwide including 429 deaths. Most people who get the virus only experience mild symptoms and don't need treatment to get better.

In a presentation to WHO's vaccines advisory group last week, Kieny said a lower-producing vaccine would significantly delay the timeline for vaccines. That could complicate many Western countries' plans to roll out vaccines in the fall.

British Health Minister Andy Burnham promised that vaccines would start arriving in the U.K. in August — and predicted the country could see up to 100,000 cases a day by the end of that month.

Before countries can start any mass swine flu vaccination campaigns, the vaccines need to be vetted by regulatory authorities for safety issues. That means testing the vaccines in a small number of humans first, which can take weeks or months.

"I think it will be a very significant challenge to have vaccines going into peoples' arms in any meaningful number by September," said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "At this point, it is still is an issue of when will it be available, who will get it, and what will be the dose?"

Kieny said many of those questions remain unanswered at the moment. But she said WHO's vaccine advisory group recommended that health care workers receive the first swine flu shots since they are on the front lines of the global outbreak.

On Monday, British health authorities said a family doctor died over the weekend after contracting swine flu.

WHO's vaccine experts recommend that countries decided that certain groups should get the vaccine first — like pregnant women, people with chronic respiratory problems or obesity, children, and possibly young to middle-aged adults, who have been disproportionately affected by the virus.

The decision to start vaccinating people against swine flu — which so far remains a mild virus in most people — will ultimately be a gamble, since there will be limited data on any vaccine. Until millions of people start receiving the shots, experts will not know about rare and potentially dangerous side effects.

The public health community may still be scarred by the U.S.' disastrous 1976 swine flu vaccination campaign, which was abruptly stopped after hundreds of people reported developing Guillain-Barre syndrome, a paralyzing disorder, after getting the flu vaccine.

Several drugmakers are currently considering using adjuvants, ingredients used to stretch a vaccine's active ingredient, which could allow for many more vaccine doses. But little or no data exists on the safety of vaccines with adjuvants in populations including children and pregnant women. And in the U.S., there are no licensed flu vaccines that use adjuvants.
 
Thanks for posting this... none of this news is good but I'd rather know it up front than be surprised later.
 
I'm terrified of getting swine flu, I keep reading that in obese people it can be very, very serious and I'm obese, I'm on a diet but its gonna take time! :scared1:
 
Interesting. I wonder if the part about it affecting the deep lung cells is really true. I've read a LOT of stuff on the earlier flu pandemic (Spanish flu) and that was never stated that this was the reason for the deaths. The reason for the deaths was because it was a type of virus never seen and the immune system of healthy young people went into overdrive, releasing WBCs in enormous numbers, thereby, drowning the victims.

So, I'm a little skeptical.
 
So, I'm back from the doctor. Swine flu was not mentioned but he did do a chest xray which told him I do have pneumonia. How worried should I be at this moment? (no need to answer, I guess.)
 
So, I'm back from the doctor. Swine flu was not mentioned but he did do a chest xray which told him I do have pneumonia. How worried should I be at this moment? (no need to answer, I guess.)

I think the symptoms you mentioned earlier are consistent with flu symptoms, and I would call back and ask about it. Antivirals are most effective when taken early. I am surprised they didn't do a flu test. I know it wouldn't have been swine flu specific, but if you have the flu in July, it's probably swine flu. The only thing I don't know is if the test would have read differently because you have already been sick for a while, but I am surprised it wasn't mentioned. Of course, since I have asthma, swine flu would have been among the first words out of my mouth after entering the office!

I hope you are feeling much better very soon!
 
So, I'm back from the doctor. Swine flu was not mentioned but he did do a chest xray which told him I do have pneumonia. How worried should I be at this moment? (no need to answer, I guess.)

I'd feel much better in your shoes if I had been to the doctor (which you have), had a medical diagnosis (which you do) and had a treatment plan (which I assume you do!)

I hope you feel better soon!
 
Are they getting the swine flu in the southern hemisphere now, since it's their flu season, or will it not take hold there until *next* year?

I wonder how many people they tested who were born before 1918? There can't be too many around and available for testing!

I've been watching Australia, New Zealand and South America-Argentina in particular. They are experiencing more than a mild flu. Some healthy people dying, some kidney failures. Keep an eye out for what we may be in for.
 
So how far have you planned? My DH is driving me absolutely INSANE with planning. I could cheerfully choke him. Truly, this whole stupid flu thing is damaging OUR relationship!

And, believe me, I'm not saying no planning is necessary. I'm asking how far out have you thought? DH is talking about withdrawing our 2 DD's from school! The older one will be a senior in high school!

I'm good with stockpiling food, limiting contact with groups AS MUCH AS IS REASONABLE (and it would take a LOT for me to think that withdrawing the girls from school is reasonable), washing hands/hand sanitizers, etc. But his constant watching the internet for new news, constantly trying to "educate" me, belittling people who aren't planning like he is is truly making me crazy.

He is very well-read on the 1918 pandemic, and is sure that is where we're headed. Our medical knowledge nearly a hundred years later alone puts us in better shape than the people of 1918.

So, pardon my rant, but how far out have you planned?
 















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