Swim Diapers?

[jodifla]

Nothing compared to the chemicals it takes to make disposables.

Also, can use the same set of diapers for new kids, and I can sell them when I'm done with them, too.

I have no issues with people that choose to use sposies But it is way more friendly for the environment to use cloth, and can be cheaper too

Anyway, thanks everyone!

Takes a lot of water to wash all those cloth diapers. The last Consumer Reports I saw on the subject said the environmental impact of them was about the same....landfill use vs. water use.

 

[princessmom29]

I don't think it has anything to do with following rules. The rule is - non-potty trained kids need to wear a swim diaper. Nowhere does it say this needs to be a disposable swim diaper. If my child poops in a disposable diaper, we are MUCH more likely to have some kind of leak than when she poops in cloth. Looking at the disposable swim diapers versus the cloth swim diapers we have, I can only assume the same thing would happen. Bacteria gets into the pool through a zillion ways (kids that don't wipe well, people that pee in the pool, open wounds, etc). That's what the chlorine is there for.
Back to the OP. We were given a few disposable swim diapers and used one on one occasion at the Y. Other than that, we have just used our cloth swim diapers and have never had a problem. I can not imagine that anyone that matters (ie lifeguards, etc) is going to challenge your choice of swim diapers.

Actually, the non-disposable ones do work better (I used them with my first child, before disposable were invented). However, they're pretty gross to change!

Can you cite a source for your information? Everything I read says that they are equal in containing poo, and that cloth is generally better because the elastic is real and there are no 'microbeads' for absorption. Neither sposie or cloth swim diapers guard against pee.

Everyone else, thanks for responding, I will just bring the swim diapers I already have

PS. Disposable diaper waste amounts to 2% of all US landfills. Styrofoam cups amount to .04%. Neither biodegrades for 500 years. Think about it

Containing the solids and contaning the bacteria are 2 different things. Water flows much more freely through a cloth diaper than through the disposable swimmers, so even if your cloth is conatining the poo it is essenmtally a bacterial sive unless you use a rubber pant over it as well. I believe that particular study was american academy of peds. but I am not sure. I am a biochemist by trade, and the science behind the idea is solid. cloth is not a barrier for bacteria which has been proven over and over agian in wound dressing studies. The old style cloth bandages actually spread bacteria from paritent to patient when they were washed and reused in a high need setting like a war, even when washed in boiling water. It takes high temps and high pressures in a setting like an autoclave or lots and lots of bleach over and extended period to totally kill all the bacteria retained in and transmitted by cloth soiled with bodily fluids of any kind (including poop), so if you are using cloth and have a child with a stomach bug, I sugget throwing the used dipes away, our bleaching the heck out of them and letting them soak in it at least twice.

 

[Erica09M]

The disposable swim pants actually work better at what they are intended for. There is areason they are required, and that is b/c they are a better bacteria barrier than cloth. It is not so much about the solids as the bacteria they contain and disposable swimmers are much better at keeping bacterial transfer to a minimum. Everyone should follow the same rules and use the required swim pants for the health and safety of all. Just because someone doesn't like a rule does not mean they are not subject to it. Disposable diapers are not a bad thing contrary to what everyone who CD's thinks and it will not hurt to buy a couple pairs of swimmers and use them in public pools. Do everyone you are swimming with a favor and buy the swimmers.

Now, is this just your opinion, or do you actually have proof?

And no, I won't do you a favor and put my child in a disposable swim diaper and cause her skin to break out immediately to the point where it is bleeding and causing her pain. For our family, disposable diapers are a very bad thing, and it will do harm to my child.

 

[princessmom29]

Yes, and it's not "ewww". It's not like you're buying a diaper intended to be used once and thrown away. Just like you wash your clothing, cloth diapers get washed too and the end result is nothing less than clean!

We've been using cloth since day 1 with my 13 month old, and I take extra time and care with our diaper laundry, and not a single diaper is stained, torn up, etc. You better bet that the diapers will be sold to another cloth loving family when we're done with them.

Of course we don't except any non-cloth diaper users to understand then though

You are buying other people's bacteria and viruses wether they look clean or not. Definitely not something I want have in my house, much less touching my newborn. EWWW

And the "we don't expect non users to understand" in sort of rude and elitist don't you think?????

 

[adventure_woman]

Swim diapers are only designed to hold solids - not liquid. It only takes one time of child sitting on your lap and peeing in a disposible swim diaper for you to know that they don't hold urine.

THAT'S THE TRUTH! During swim class, I had my DD running around the locker room area and she peed. All on the floor. With a disposible swim diaper on. After that, I always made sure to tell moms that brought their DC w/ their suit and swim diaper on that it does NOT hold pee!!

I would recommend the cloth ones. The elastic is so tight around their little legs and belly, that I think it would hold a #2 accident much better than a disposable! Also, I don't recall it saying anywhere that it has to be a disposible swim diaper. Just a swim diaper...

 

[princessmom29]

Now, is this just your opinion, or do you actually have proof?

And no, I won't do you a favor and put my child in a disposable swim diaper and cause her skin to break out immediately to the point where it is bleeding and causing her pain. For our family, disposable diapers are a very bad thing, and it will do harm to my child.

See the post above your for the proof, and that is a rare situation that obviously requires something different, like a rubber pant over cloth mabye??? For the majority of people disposables used once in the pool will do no harm.

People are going to think and do what they want to regardless, but I am just trying to provide them with the correct info to make the right choice, and weed through all the propoganda surronding cloth diaper use. It has suddenly become the hip and pc thing to do, and lots of people go into it totally uninformed or with misinformation form people who are oushing their own agenda.

everyone in entitled to their opinion as to what is best, but as a pp said environmental impact studies show that the impact is about the same. It simply effects different sectors of the environment. I am personally not willing to take the bacterial tansmission risk CD's present with an immunologically fragile newborn baby, and I just want to let others know that the risk is out there.

 

[Erica09M]

Takes a lot of water to wash all those cloth diapers. The last Consumer Reports I saw on the subject said the environmental impact of them was about the same....landfill use vs. water use.

The impact is not the same. Disposable diapers have a much bigger (negative) effect on the environment than cloth diapers do.

More water might be used to wash those diapers. But we're not cutting down 250,000 trees or using 82,000 tons of plastic, and then throwing the waste into a landfill where it sits for hundreds of years. Did you know that in a lot of states it's actually illegal to dump human waste in landfills? Did you know that you're actually supposed to dump and flush the solid matter from a disposable diaper before you dispose of it?

 

[Erica09M]

You are buying other people's bacteria and viruses wether they look clean or not. Definitely not something I want have in my house, much less touching my newborn. EWWW

And the "we don't expect non users to understand" in sort of rude and elitist don't you think?????

No, it wasn't meant as a rude comment. But I don't expect anyone who doesn't use cloth diapers to understand the ins and outs of cloth diapering. It's just a simple statement and you're making it more than what it is.

An no, I'M not personally buying used cloth diapers. All of ours are brand new. But there are people who will buy them used.

Please find me a study showing the number of children affected by the bacteria said to be left in the cloth diapers after proper washing.

If this was the case, I'm sure Procter & Gamble would be all over funding the research so they could rake in more money selling their disposable diapers

 

[princessmom29]

The impact is not the same. Disposable diapers have a much bigger (negative) effect on the environment than cloth diapers do.

More water might be used to wash those diapers. But we're not cutting down 250,000 trees or using 82,000 tons of plastic, and then throwing the waste into a landfill where it sits for hundreds of years. Did you know that in a lot of states it's actually illegal to dump human waste in landfills? Did you know that you're actually supposed to dump and flush the solid matter from a disposable diaper before you dispose of it?

You are contaminating hundreds of thousands of gallons of water with fecal matter that, and it takes tons of chemicals to remove it, and those chemicals have a huge negative environmental impact as well. Runnoff from waste treatment plants is a huge environmental problem and every load of CD's you wash adds to it.

Look, we can debate this all day and not get anywhere. Just read the studies yourself, scientific studies from unbiased sources, not propaganda from either side, and see what you find. I think you will be suprised.

 

[AKADrea]

you can just use a cloth cover (for those who aren't familiar - it's not made of CLOTH, it's a waterproof cover) - since you're just looking to hold in the poop. Do you have any that he's outgrown that you wouldn't mind putting in the chlorine water? I'd bring at least 2 in case he does poop in one And, noone checked my children last year, but I suppose they could have


to the OP - I'm sorry some others have jumped on you when you just asked a simple question, it appears they need to rationalize things to make them feel better about their own PERSONAL choices

 

[princessmom29]

No, it wasn't meant as a rude comment. But I don't expect anyone who doesn't use cloth diapers to understand the ins and outs of cloth diapering. It's just a simple statement and you're making it more than what it is.

An no, I'M not personally buying used cloth diapers. All of ours are brand new. But there are people who will buy them used.

Please find me a study showing the number of children affected by the bacteria said to be left in the cloth diapers after proper washing.

If this was the case, I'm sure Procter & Gamble would be all over funding the research so they could rake in more money selling their disposable diapers

this is not a study, but even this propaganda site admits that you need bleach and high temps to kill staph bacteria. If you are not using bleach and drying for an hour on high every time you are not getting rid of the bacteria in the diapers
http://lovinglearning.com/index.php?p=staphdiapers

 

[Erica09M]

this is not a study, but even this propaganda site admits that you need bleach and high temps to kill staph bacteria. If you are not using bleach and drying for an hour on high every time you are not getting rid of the bacteria in the diapers
http://lovinglearning.com/index.php?p=staphdiapers

I'm not arguing the fact that cloth diapering takes a very diligent wash routine. The link provided does absolutely nothing but tell me what I already know. I'm asking you to prove to me that disposable swim diapers &/or disposable diapers in general are safer for the public or more environmentally friendly than cloth.

And to comment on one of your previous posts, cloth swim diapers don't allow water to flow through them freely. They have a waterproof outer layer or lining

 

[missmun52]

Hi, figured this was the place to ask We'll be heading down in Oct with an 8 month old, and I wanted to let him splash around in the pool.

I know Swim Diapers are required, but I'm curious how they check? We use cloth diapers and I've never bought sposies. I currently have a pair of swim trunks with the diaper sewn in from when we went to the beach, and I'd like to use them in WDW, too, but some places force you to buy sposies, even though they are inferior to using real elastic to hold the poo in (and they won't explode the little beads all over the place, either )

Anyone with any insight to this? Am I going to be forced to buy disposables?

I dont think you will. I have never seen them check, but I always use the disposables so maybe they just saw it from far??

I would think the cloth diaper with the reusable swim diaper cover would be ok. I thought about buying this for my son when he was in the diaper stage (they had them at target) but I am the type of person who will throw it out if he pooped in it. The disposable ones are not that expensive and they are easy to use on vacation.

 

[princessmom29]

I'm not arguing the fact that cloth diapering takes a very diligent wash routine. The link provided does absolutely nothing but tell me what I already know. I'm asking you to prove to me that disposable swim diapers &/or disposable diapers in general are safer for the public or more environmentally friendly than cloth.

And to comment on one of your previous posts, cloth swim diapers don't allow water to flow through them freely. They have a waterproof outer layer or lining

some of them do, but not all. i have seen just regular cd's with no covers in pools and the DO let water through.
As to the proof, i really don't think you can prove anything to someone who has already made up their mind. No matter what proof i offer it with be contradicted just like you just did. I am only trying to encourage people to actually read the amterial out there and think for themselves. i will never prove it to you b/c you know what you choos to believ and nothing will change that. if you are interested in truly doing some reading on the subject and forming an educated opinion I suggest the american academy of peds web site as a strating point. there are links there to lots of scientific info on the subject.

 

[Erica09M]

some of them do, but not all. i have seen just regular cd's with no covers in pools and the DO let water through.
As to the proof, i really don't think you can prove anything to someone who has already made up their mind. No matter what proof i offer it with be contradicted just like you just did. I am only trying to encourage people to actually read the amterial out there and think for themselves. i will never prove it to you b/c you know what you choos to believ and nothing will change that. if you are interested in truly doing some reading on the subject and forming an educated opinion I suggest the american academy of peds web site as a strating point. there are links there to lots of scientific info on the subject.

Right, because I often ask for things I'm not interested in.

 

[princessmom29]

Right, because I often ask for things I'm not interested in.

Whatever, That's what I get for trying to spread correct information. I'm done trying b/c no one seems to want to listen.

 

[Disney1976]

THAT'S THE TRUTH! During swim class, I had my DD running around the locker room area and she peed. All on the floor. With a disposible swim diaper on. After that, I always made sure to tell moms that brought their DC w/ their suit and swim diaper on that it does NOT hold pee!!

Well, they WILL hold some pee -just like disposables used to before they added all that gel stuff that makes them swell up so much (though old time disposables had a lot more "fluff" in them to absorb). In a real pinch, you could absolutely use a swim diaper on a child as a regular diaper for a very, very short period of time. But of course, if a child wets a lot all at one time, they'll leak through, because their main purpose is what everyone has said -to contain solids, same as a cloth swim diaper. Either one of which is acceptable at the pools (I believe at the water parks, the sign says "diapered children must wear a swim diaper or plastic pants").

I know it's silly, but I just hate when people say that disposable swim diapers (or cloth ones, for that matter) don't absorb liquids, because of course they do -they get wet from the water!

 

[Cinderellabride]

Really they aren't designed to hold pee? That certainly explains a lot! LOL So why is not bad for the pee to go in the pool? (sorry if I sound dumb here)

 

[taitai]

The environmental impacts are not the same. If you find a study not funded by Pampers or Huggies you will understand that. The majority of cloth diaper users only do one extra wash every three days. Probably the same or less than a family using disposables does to deal with blow outs. Most diapers are air dried so there is no energy consumption in terms of driers. Disposable diapers use MUCH more water. First there is the tremendous amount of water used in the production of the diapers and the bleaching of the fibers. Then, of course, as it is illegal to place fecal matter into a landfill, there is the water used to flush any solid water away before disposing of the diaper. Finally, cloth diapers do not contain all the horrible nasty chemicals that disposables do. Disposables are not super absorbant due to sweet little fairies waving their wands. They are absorbent due to all sorts of nasty chemicals (including some that are banned for use in adults) that we are putting right next to a child's skin where they can be absorbed. Ever see little blue crystals next to your child's skin if you waited too long to change the diaper? Yikes. I shudder to think of all the health (and reproductive health) issues we may see in the next 20-30 years due to the use of these diapers. Finally, a cloth diapered kid potty trains significantly earlier than a disposable diapered child which even further lessens the environmental impact.

Have a great trip!

 

[princessmom29]

Really they aren't designed to hold pee? That certainly explains a lot! LOL So why is not bad for the pee to go in the pool? (sorry if I sound dumb here)

urine is sterile unless you have a uti. The test that they do in the doctor's office for a uti is for presence of bacteria in urine. no bacteria= no uti