Susan Boyle Gets a Well Deserved Apology.

In the meantime, she can do the London productions. :thumbsup2 Or simply stay there. :) London's theatres are nothing to sneeze. I just don't know enough about them to speak about them - which is why I mention Broadway. But, American Tony winner, Patti LuPone originated the roles of Fantine & then Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, both in London.

Oh I have no problems with a British accent...even a Cockney one. But I found her really hard to understand.

She strikes me as very committed to her dream, and I'm certain she'll overcome that small hurdle.

She obviously has a great ear, so I think with some coaching she'll be just fine.
 
I think she's become so loved, no so much for her incredible voice, but because she is so unexpected. I think we as a society are so tired of the cookie cutter celebs and their bad behavior -- we need some "real" role models to look up to, people just like ourselves. It gives us hope that we can strive for so much more.
 
For me, it is less about "role models" or even thinking I can "make it" because I'm ordinary--if that is what this does for some people, that is wonderful, it just isn't for me.
It really is getting past that cookie cutter image, getting past that barbie exterior and hearing someone's talent no matter what they look like.

I think there were people who made it years ago who would have never made it today because they did not have "the look". Then music videos came around and that really changed who made it and who wasn't even given the chance to be heard.

We (as a people) have probably missed a whole lotta talent through the years because of someone's look. We've certainly heard a lot of untalented people because of how pretty/handsome they are--or what they can do with a digitally altered voice. It is our loss, really, for being such a shallow bunch.
 
I agree. Sometimes you just hear a voice that takes your breath away; she has that. I was at an event the other day and a young woman behind me sang the Star Spangled Banner, along with the entire huge group of us. Her voice was so stunning that it could be heard above the masses. After the singing was ended, I turned to her and said, "that was the most incredible voice I have heard".(plus, its a difficult song) She thanked me and said that she is a professional musician and singer. Wow!
Years ago I went to church with a woman that I worked with (we were both IT professionals). During the first hymn I just about fell over when I heard this magnificent voice come out of this quiet little person. It turns out she had trained as an opera singer in New York in her younger days.

In the meantime, she can do the London productions. :thumbsup2 Or simply stay there. :) London's theatres are nothing to sneeze at.
London theatre is just the best, best, best. I've lived in New York and London. NY theatre can be great - but the West End is just great, great, great times 10.
 

Were you not shocked when Clay Aiken sang so beautifully? He is a very attractive young man, but the voice was completely unexpected. It isn't an insult unless it is meant, or you choose to take it, that way... :confused3

Nope, doesn't fly. Look at the judges and the audience when she walked out, snickering at her. They admitted as much. It's not the way I take it, it's the way it was. Then they looked shocked when she started to sing.
 
Nope, doesn't fly. Look at the judges and the audience when she walked out, snickering at her. They admitted as much. It's not the way I take it, it's the way it was. Then they looked shocked when she started to sing.
Doesn't fly? Maybe not in your mind, but it is true. Biology has a lot more to do with this than you seem to want to believe, but that doesn't change reality.

If you want proof, go sit and watch children play at your local playground. The attractive kids are the circle of attention already, as toddlers. All of the other children congregate around them. That is just the way we are programmed...
 
For me, it is less about "role models" or even thinking I can "make it" because I'm ordinary--if that is what this does for some people, that is wonderful, it just isn't for me.
It really is getting past that cookie cutter image, getting past that barbie exterior and hearing someone's talent no matter what they look like.

I think there were people who made it years ago who would have never made it today because they did not have "the look". Then music videos came around and that really changed who made it and who wasn't even given the chance to be heard.

We (as a people) have probably missed a whole lotta talent through the years because of someone's look. We've certainly heard a lot of untalented people because of how pretty/handsome they are--or what they can do with a digitally altered voice. It is our loss, really, for being such a shallow bunch.

Meatloaf, Mama Cass... trying to think of more. Could you see them making it today?

I can't remember her name, but the female singer from C&C Music Factory in the early 90s, she was an extremely heavy black woman. In their video, they replaced her with what looked like a model. That's such an outrage to me! Didn't that also happen with a male singer around that time? Can't remember his name either, but he was really overweight and wore these black rimmed glasses, sang sort of blues/rock. Fantastic singer, but I never knew what he looked like until later. Blues Traveler?
 
The more I think of it, the more I think it's because of the venue. On American Idol, I don't think she wouldn't even have made it into the auditions because I think there is a cut off for age. And of course, eventually, a certain "look."

It was refreshing to see the British version is more about talent than a final image, although Image does obviously play a part in it, or people wouldn't have laughed to begin with.

The show she was on is not the British version of American Idol - the show she was on was Britian has Talent (or something similar) - which America also does a show called America has Talent - I don't think there is an age limit on those shows but with American Idol and the British version (Pop Idol - I think its called) there is an age limit. Actually I think I read that America Has Talent will be coming back on soon here in the US.

I also wanted to say what an amazing voice Susan Boyle has - she was on the Today show this morning and they asked her to sing and she belted it out - she sang the same song so it would be interesting to hear her do another song.
 
Meatloaf, Mama Cass... trying to think of more. Could you see them making it today?

I can't remember her name, but the female singer from C&C Music Factory in the early 90s, she was an extremely heavy black woman. In their video, they replaced her with what looked like a model. That's such an outrage to me! Didn't that also happen with a male singer around that time? Can't remember his name either, but he was really overweight and wore these black rimmed glasses, sang sort of blues/rock. Fantastic singer, but I never knew what he looked like until later. Blues Traveler?


Exactly. And as a kid I was exposed to a lot of country music and so many of them were not so attractive.

And look at what people and the media does to someone like Kelly Clarkson or even Kirsti Alley when they gain weight!
 
Were you not shocked when Clay Aiken sang so beautifully? He is a very attractive young man, but the voice was completely unexpected. It isn't an insult unless it is meant, or you choose to take it, that way... :confused3

Doesn't fly? Maybe not in your mind, but it is true. Biology has a lot more to do with this than you seem to want to believe, but that doesn't change reality.

If you want proof, go sit and watch children play at your local playground. The attractive kids are the circle of attention already, as toddlers. All of the other children congregate around them. That is just the way we are programmed...

DisneyBamaFan said it isn't an insult unless it is meant, or you choose to take it that way.

I was saying "doesn't fly" because they definitely meant to insult her, look at the way everyone was snickering at her. If they didn't think they did something wrong, why are they apologizing???
 
Anyone who heard her sing could not help but be "wowed", but I thought that this apology of the part of the judges says a lot about their preconceived notions. If viewers judged Pavaroti on his appearance, would he have succeeded? What about Ella Fitzgerald? Susan Boyle is was a hidden gem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/17/earlyshow/leisure/music/main4951767.shtml
BS) Susan Boyle's fame is spreading, and her talent even has two people who sat in judgment of her apologizing to her.

The middle-aged Scottish volunteer church worker. who literally raised eyebrows as she wowed everyone with her rendition of "I Dreamed A Dream" in a prelim round of the TV competition, "Britain's Got Talent," has paparazzi at her door and fan mail piling up, reports CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Palmer -- not to mention millions upon millions of hits on the YouTube clip of her performance.

Her quiet life looking after an aging mother hid both talent and a sense of humor, Palmer observes.

On Thursday, Boyle agreed to sing for The Early Show from her living room, making newspaper and Internet headlines on both sides of "the pond" -- in the U.S. and the U.K.

And while she made millions of fans with her sudden burst on the scene, Boyle says her dream is to sing for Queen Elizabeth -- something she'd get to do if she goes on to win "Britain's Got Talent."

On The Early Show Friday, two of the three judges when Boyle made her bow on "Britain's Got Talent" chatted with co-anchor Julie Chen.

Amanda Holden and Piers Morgan told Chen they were simply amazed when Boyle began to sing -- especially considering how they'd prejudged her by her looks.

"I mean," said Holden, "it's a very shallow thing to say but, obviously, the minute she walked onstage we all, and the audience, completely judged her on her appearance and everything else. And I hate saying that. But, you know, that true cliche, we judged a book by its cover, unfortunately, and we're all very cynical. The audience was jeering and booing and it was just really uncomfortable, wasn't it? And we were, 'Oh, just please be good or just get off. Because it's just -- we just need you to do something here,' because we were so dying for her."

Morgan said, "I would just like to apologize to Susan Boyle, because I think it's long overdue, because, from the clip, you know, (millions of) people could see that Simon Cowell (the third judge that night -- he of "American Idol" fame) and I -- we don't have the best reputations, I think, for courtesy in America. I think we owe her on apology because it was an amazing performance. As I said, we were all laughing at her when she started, and by the end, the last laugh was on her."

Holden said the second the first notes came out of Boyle's mouth that night, they knew they "had found gold."

Raves poured into CBSNews.com after Boyle's Early Show appearance Thursday. Co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez read some of them on the show Friday.

The Early Show will also be conducting its own search -- for America's Susan Boyle -- beginning Monday.

This is a talent show. She HAS talent.

I don't understand what you are getting at.

Are you saying that it's OK to make fun of someone's looks as long as they don't have talent?
 
Wow! Amazing difference. If this is really her, she has more range than I imagined.

Bravo!!!

It's so hard to match the sultriness of this song to the singer - even in her interviews, she just doesn't seem to have that kind of savvy in her to musically interpret the songs the way she does. It's just so bizarre to me.
 












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