Suicide jumper pushed...you go, boyeeee.

[SharpMomOfTwo]

Wow!!! First of all I am amazed by peoples comments. Are the boards always like this? I thought this was a Disney board to talk and enjoy about Disney. There is enough anger, sadness, and hatred in the world without all of us contributing. And as far as the religious/Christian thing (not a good joke) - Yes I do love Christ. If I am wrong and he doesn't exist then all I did was be kind and try to love my family, friends and others the best I could but if others who think he doesn't exist are wrong - IT WILL BE A HOT (NOT COLD) DAY IN HELL FOR THEM!! God Bless us all!!

Well first of all, this is the community board, no one really talks about anything Disney in here Second, you can love your Christ, but again, this is a Disney Community board, not a Jesus board.

 

[goofy!]

Sorry about your Mother - she obviously actually commited suicide. This person had no intention of that - only to get attention. There is a difference.

And you know this for certain, how?

Were you the man's psychiatrist, good friend, spouse, or close at all? You knew the state of his mind, the depth of his depression, you are an expert on suicide who has treated this man? You are privy to his financial statement and anything else going on in his life that you can make such a snap diagnosis?

The only selfish person looking for his 15 minutes of fame is the guy who attempted murder.

Again, if the pusher was so concerned that this man was doing this for show and not truly wanting to commit suicide, why did he not just pull him to safety and let him live out the consequences of his actions?

 

[Cindy F]

Sorry about your Mother - she obviously actually commited suicide. This person had no intention of that - only to get attention. There is a difference.

You seriously need to educate yourself regarding suicide, suicidal ideations, and suicidal gestures before you make comments like that.

Here, maybe this will help
Suicidal behavior includes the following:

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Completed suicide: An intentional act of self-harm that results in death.
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Attempted suicide: An act of self-harm that is intended to result in death but does not. Frequently, suicide attempts involve at least some ambivalence about wishing to die and may be a cry for help.
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Suicide gesture: An act of self-harm that is unlikely to result in death. For example, people may scratch their wrists only superficially or take an overdose of vitamins.

 

[Allison]

Sorry about your Mother - she obviously actually commited suicide. This person had no intention of that - only to get attention. There is a difference.

How do you know that?

 

[Planogirl]

I wouldn't presume to know what was in this man's mind. I can't believe that people here have decided that they know just what he was thinking.

This man needs help, that is obvious. I find the lack of compassion here revolting.

 

[Youarehere]

Sorry about your Mother - she obviously actually commited suicide. This person had no intention of that - only to get attention. There is a difference.

You're a real piece of work. I can't believe you even said that. Go seek help- you are FITH.

 

[Allison]

I wouldn't presume to know what was in this man's mind. I can't believe that people here have decided that they know just what he was thinking.

This man needs help, that is obvious. I find the lack of compassion here revolting.

Revolting and disgusting. The fact that someone said they have more compassion for the person delayed getting to the bank because traffic was stopped just turns my stomach.

 

[smartestnumber5]

Does anyone else think it odd that of all of the rules the DIS has (no political discussion, no religious discussion, no trying to get by the curse-word censor, no mentioning banned posters implicitly or explicitly, no mention the topics associated with the banned posters, no mentioning certain other sites, no sarcasm, no personal attacks on other posters, no posting/being members of certain other sites, nothing sexually explicit, no use of the proper names for genitals, etc) there is apparently no rule against advocating cold blooded murder/maiming of potentially mentally ill individuals?

I must have a messed up moral sense, but to me using the proper name for female genitalia, discussing periods, and even nasty sniping over politics is nothing compared to celebrating and encouraging killing and maiming.

 

[Liberty Belle]

The lack of compassion in some of these posts really saddens me.

 

[Alyssa88]

Wow. I am shocked by what I've read here.

Regardless of whether or not they wanted the attention or had the intention to do it is pointless. It may have been a cry for help, hoping somebody could stop them and they may be able to get the help they need.

I had a client who calimed he would kill himself quite often. I knew he probably wouldn't go through with it, but it was his way of sharing his feelings, of asking for help. He attempted a few times, but never pulled it off. I am not sure he meant to, but either way it si obvious he needed help.

I had a freind kill himself in high school. While there was no warning, it has always been a touchy subject for me. How could anyone be so heartless?

The man should spend a LONG time in jail. The person obviously needed help.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Does anyone else think it odd that of all of the rules the DIS has (no political discussion, no religious discussion, no trying to get by the curse-word censor, no mentioning banned posters implicitly or explicitly, no mention the topics associated with the banned posters, no mentioning certain other sites, no sarcasm, no personal attacks on other posters, no posting/being members of certain other sites, nothing sexually explicit, no use of the proper names for genitals, etc) there is apparently no rule against advocating cold blooded murder/maiming of potentially mentally ill individuals?

I must have a messed up moral sense, but to me using the proper name for female genitalia, discussing periods, and even nasty sniping over politics is nothing compared to celebrating and encouraging killing and maiming.

 

[Mickey Fliers]

Sorry about your Mother - she obviously actually commited suicide. This person had no intention of that - only to get attention. There is a difference.

The problem is that you really have no way of knowing that...other than the opinion of the "pusher". And really, does it matter? What if the guy had stood there for 6 hours and then jumped? You still missed your appointment, but now there is a body count. Isn't the best outcome one that includes everyone being alive at the end of the day? So what if there was traffic?

The potential jumper deserves our compassion rather than someone trying to help him "get on with it" so that the rest of us can get on with our mundane lives. If my mom had stood on a bridge for 5 hours rather than getting in her car and sitting in the garage, maybe someone could have stopped her.

I am just saying that your perspective can change in an instant.

 

[VallCopen]

I will second that!!! I am done here and will go back to the Disneyland posts, much happier place then here.

 

[bumcat]

You're a real piece of work. I can't believe you even said that. Go seek help- you are FITH.

 

[okeydokey]

What an awful thread, advocating the killing or injuring of a distressed person. I hope all your families encounter kinder and more compassionate people in their own lives.

 

[Liberty Belle]

I have wished to God every single day for the last 9 months that my Mother, at age 52, would have tied up traffic with her "attention seeking" rather than her alternate action.

I hope none of you ever have to be in my shoes and read such heartless, unsympathetic garbage!

 

[lil mermaid]

You're a real piece of work. I can't believe you even said that. Go seek help- you are FITH.

And she is someone's mother. I hope that neither of your two children ever suffers from mental illness.

 

[Maggi May]

http://news.aol.com/article/suicide-jumper-pushed/496337

I've said it before...I cannot stand it when people decide to tie up traffic by standing on a bridge and announcing they want to kill themselves.

There are many ways to do yourself in if that is truly your goal. You don't have to tie up and inconvenience thousands of people to do it. You don't have to prevent people from getting to the hospital...or to work or wherever. The hospital aspect always pisses me off the most, though.

These people want attention. And their need for attention doesn't trump the rest of the city's need to do what they need to do.

I'm glad someone finally said, "Enough of this crap. You want to jump, I'll help."

Guanzhou is a big city. It's bigger than New York and Los Angeles put together. I can't even imagine the tie-up this caused.

Good for the pusher.

I'll pray for the person who was pushed, just like I prayed for your mother when you posted about her terminal illness a few weeks ago. Everyone deserves prayers, even the most inconsiderate people.

 

[Stitchfans]

As much as I love my daughter, and I would gladly die for her, I would not put her life above that of another individual.

In your scenario, yes, it would be very hard not knowing. My being there would not change the outcome of her surgery. I would never wish the death of anyone no matter what the situation. That is one of the reasons I will never own a gun. I know that I could not use it on another person no matter what the situation. That may be hard for some to understand, but that is just me.

I have a lot admiration for Peg, but I think differently on this subject. As far as I am concern for me personally both of my DDs come first before any other person. I could pull the trigger or whatever. But this is getting off topic.

IMO yes the man was wrong for pushing the other man. It should of been left to the authorities to take care of the situation. It is a shame that the bridge wasn't blocked off for the other people and a different route was offered for them to move on in their travels. Also a shame the authorities couldn't of taken care of the problem quicker on their own.

Yes the jumper was no doubt in terrible distress and trying a find a way out for his problems, but that wasn't a wise choice, and it is a shame if he doesn't get help.

 

[wall*e2008]

I can not imagine pushing the man off the bridge. He did not die but has a spinal injury.