Sugar beverages affecting

[luvmyfam444]

pottying? My dd is still having accidents - she's almost 5 we took her to the ped last year & to a urologist. The urologist says everything looks fine -put her on some med to help her with the urge - we took it daily for months. We couldn't tell a difference at all - so we stopped.

Here's what I've noticed - it seems to me the days she has the most sugar - Sprite - or even the Caprisun Roaring Waters - are the days she has an accident. It may be just a coincidence, becuse those are the days she also drinks the most. When I don't have any flavored water packets or the Caprisun's she doesn't drink but a little o.j. in the a.m. & then maybe some milk with the other meals - but not much else - unless she's really hot then she'll drink some plain ole water.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with anything like this?

 

[SpecialK]

My friend's son had issues with bedwetting, and she was told to limit sugary drinks and dairy close to bedtime. She did that in conjunction with an alarm and it worked.

 

[LadyZolt]

My DD would wet the bed when she was 5, too -- and even restricting liquids after dinner and ensuring she went before she got into bed didn't help. She didn't wet the bed every night, but often enough to concern us. We also took her to the doc and they finally did an ultrasound and discovered that her bladder is a tad larger than the norm. So she wouldn't feel the urge to go like most children and was in such a deep sleep when she did finally have to go, she wouldn't always awaken. Once we knew the cause, we just dealt with it as we knew she'd grow out of this as her body matured, and she was completely over the bedwetting by the time she was 7. I don't think this is the usual cause for most bedwetting, but I'm letting you know just in case. We used the pull-ups and I always thought of them as a godsend. I have no idea how parents dealt with this sort of thing before those were invented. LOL!

-Dorothy (LadyZolt)

 

[luvmyfam444]

actually I'm not even worried about the bedwetting - I've kept her in pullups - which I don't mind at all

its the daytime accidents that I'm worried about

 

[j's m]

My DS had mutilple kidney/bladder problems. One tip our urologist gave was making sure he was voiding at least every 2 hours. We even had doctors notes for the teachers through middle school so there was no problem.

Does your daughter go on any regular basis, or is she ignoring the bathroom because she's too busy?

 

[abdmom]

DD did the same thing with juice when she was little. For her, it was sufficient not to have juice or chocolate milk after dinner and that solved the issue. She didn't drink soda.

If I were you, I'd cut out any drinks with sugar and just have her on milk and water.

 

[golfgal]

Totally unscientific but I rarely drink pop (soda, whatever you want to call it). When I do, it runs through me pretty fast. I could see where a 5 year old doesn't get to the bathroom on time after drinking a sugared drink. I would just stop them all together for a couple weeks and see how it goes.

 

[luvmyfam444]

My DS had mutilple kidney/bladder problems. One tip our urologist gave was making sure he was voiding at least every 2 hours. We even had doctors notes for the teachers through middle school so there was no problem.

Does your daughter go on any regular basis, or is she ignoring the bathroom because she's too busy?

Well , I don't time her or anything (I know I should) but she goes everytime I go at the very least (and I go all the time - LOL)

She knows she has to go & she will sit on the floor (even if she's been previously walking) & squirm & try to hold her bottom. We have to pull her up by her hand & drag her - often while she's still saying she doesn't have to go

I'm not sure she's emptying her bladder & then that makes her need to go more - but its night like I can know that for sure. She says she's done & I hear her go & even if I make her sit longer she doesn't go anymore. :confused

I think tomorrow I guess I should start a log - it just seems to come & go so random - until this week when she has had an accident once a day - for 4 days

 

[LuvOrlando]

According to my physiology class it takes 1 hour for fluids consumed to reach the bladder. Sweetened drinks prompt people to drink more & faster so after an hour the bladder may fill & refill again in about 20 -30 min.

When my kids were little I never asked because asking always gets a 'No', I have never seen a parent who asks hear "Yes" or have a kid who doesn't either scream last minute "I have to go now!" or have accidents. Instead I took my knowledge about how our bodies work and every hour or so I would just announce, "Potty time" and put them on the potty very matter of fact with zero stress. I'd encourage some pushing and if they went they went, if not so what. If they just had a big drink I would start at 45 minutes of so then try it 1/2 hour later, then another 1/2 later then go back to the hour thing when the flow slowed.

Now with #2 peristalsis comes in 15 minute increments until the person can't hold it, which is why kids often think & say "Oh it went away" only to scream later on. When my kids would do any dancing ect I would just give it about 10 minutes before I put them on the potty with a book and wait for the urge to return.... which it always does because where else is it going to go

Oh, and for maybe the first year after they stopped wearing diapers I would also wake my kids up about an hour into sleeping to void their bladders. I would keep a nightlight on in the bathroom, carry them in, gently place them on the potty encouraging them to push it out and once they'd tinkle (they almost always did) I'd carry them back into bed for a dry night.

Anyway, a little understanding about the human body can go a long way towards a peaceful potty training experience. I wish I didn't have to take an anatomy & physiology class to learn this but I never heard it anywhere else

 

[badblackpug]

Actually, I think what your daughter is doing is fairly common for that age, both my older kids did it. They are busy playing, or whatever, and they don't want to take time out to go. they put it off for so long that they physically can't make it to the bathroom when they do finally get up to go.

We did 2 things to curb this.

1) send her to the bathroom on a regular schedule. Every hour or two. Don't ask, just say go. Stop all activities (such as turning off the TV or games) until they go. Set a timer and make them sit for a specified amount of minutes.

2) when they do have an accident make them responsible for it. Stop all activities. Make them wash and change and wash out or put the soiled clothing in the washer and then wait for the clothing to be done and then put it in the dryer. They quickly learn that they can get back to fun a lot faster if they just go rather than wait until they wet themselves.

 

[LoriABil]

Do the Capri Suns have Splenda in them? The only reason I ask is because a good friend had a similar problem with her 4 year old DD. When she cut out the drinks and snacks with Splenda, she stopped having accidents!

 

[bumbershoot]

Do the Capri Suns have Splenda in them? The only reason I ask is because a good friend had a similar problem with her 4 year old DD. When she cut out the drinks and snacks with Splenda, she stopped having accidents!

Normal CapriSuns don't (they have normal sugar) but flavored water packets certainly could!


OP, this is just me thinking, not anything official. But when DH was having blood sugar problems, we knew it because he was peeing ALL the time. I meean, serious, embarrassing problems. And when he went to urgent care, his blood sugar was frighteningly high. He'd been drinking LOTS of sugary drinks, mainly because he'd been avoiding things with HFCS (after we realized that corn syrup based stuff makes our son violent and awful) but then I found some good sodas with cane sugar, and he was drinking those like crazy. So he messed up his blood sugar, and it caused him to pee ALL the time.

So...yeah, it makes sense that sugary drinks are going to have an effect.

Note...milk is rather high in sugar! It's actually something that messes with hubby's system nearly as much as cane sugar (not as much as HFCS though, NOTHING spikes his blood sugar like that junk!), but then he knows he shouldn't be drinking cow's milk at all (he's Asian, and Asians often have problems with dairy).

I would try just water for awhile, honestly. There are WAY better sources of things like calcium than dairy (it's been long known that a serving of cow milk takes more calcium to digest than it has IN that serving...any wonder we're all becoming osteoporitic the longer the dairy council spreads the word to drink the stuff?), so I'd find those and avoid all the sugary beverages for awhile.


Best of luck!

 

[quasar4legs]

You might be interested in a website called Food Intolerance Network run by Sue Dengate in Australia.
The details on the website are based on the research of an allergy clinic at a large teaching hospital in Sydney.

 

[bellebud]

Well , I don't time her or anything (I know I should) but she goes everytime I go at the very least (and I go all the time - LOL)

She knows she has to go & she will sit on the floor (even if she's been previously walking) & squirm & try to hold her bottom. We have to pull her up by her hand & drag her - often while she's still saying she doesn't have to go

I'm not sure she's emptying her bladder & then that makes her need to go more - but its night like I can know that for sure. She says she's done & I hear her go & even if I make her sit longer she doesn't go anymore. :confused

I think tomorrow I guess I should start a log - it just seems to come & go so random - until this week when she has had an accident once a day - for 4 days

2 things popped into my mind...

regarding you not being sure she is emptying her bladder - I once had a sonogram because of a pain we thought might be a hernia... I had to have a full bladder for the first sono - then the tech told me to go empty my bladder, so I did, he did another sono and said "I told you to empty your bladder", which I replied that I did, and he told me I didn't. I said "hmmm, I do always feel like I have to pee", and he said "that's why. you don't have good keegle muscles and aren't pushing it all out. practice keegle exercises".

Remember when we were all in K, there were always extra pants in the nurses office for the K kids who wet their pants during the day. A few years ago, when I was a recess volunteer, a K girl was sitting on the playset at recess, and we were talking, and she just started peeing as she was sitting there, oblivious to it. It was dripping under the playset and all around. Of course I took her inside and took care of it, poor thing. But she was really like "what???"

So I don't think it's 'abnormal', but I'd try just water, the every hour thing, etc, too, so she becomes more aware of her body.

good luck!!

 

[golfgal]

I wonder if she has a bladder infection and it hurts to go. That could be why she is resisting.

 

[KiKi Mouse]

One of my daughters just turned 4 and we are going through a kidney infection issue. She is in pullups at night and is still waking up with wet ones.

How did the doctor determine that everything "looks fine"? Did they do an ultrasound or any other tests?

 

[luvmyfam444]

ooo more interesting things to check out! THANKS!

 

[luvmyfam444]

One of my daughters just turned 4 and we are going through a kidney infection issue. She is in pullups at night and is still waking up with wet ones.

How did the doctor determine that everything "looks fine"? Did they do an ultrasound or any other tests?

No - no ultrasound - just looked & felt her belly & of course a urine speciman. That's why I'm here asking - cause if it was an emptying the bladder thing I would assume that can't be seen without an ultrasound

 

[luvmyfam444]

Ya knw - come to think of it when we asked the ped about emptying the bladder all the way if that could be the issue she said it could - but there wasn't anything that could be done about it if that was the problem. It's not something that we can tell & its not something that can be really taught

 

[MistressMerryweather]

It's so common, I really think it is a bladder maturity thing. My 5yo dd will turn 6 in May and only just stopped having an occasional daytime accident about 6 months or so ago. She still has nighttime accidents on and of.
Chiropractic helps lots. One of the #1 reason parents start taking children to chiropractors is potty learning/bed-wetting.

Dairy can also be a big trigger. I would try to limit her to water for a trial and see what happens. Stay away from tea and any drinks with sugar. Tea is a major diuretic. Maybe even start a log to see what was happening at the time and what she had ate and drank before the accident. That way you might be able to pinpoint an allergy/sensitivity or maybe she is just super busy and distracted with other things?