Stupid Question!

jkc0325

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Hi all,

I'm new to DIS and planning our 2nd family Disney trip for July 2011. I am very interested in getting a new camera before we go and I'm looking at the Nikon D3100. I am trying to decide whether to get the one that comes with the extra 55-200 lens or save my $300 and just go with the regular lens.

I have been using a Canon for years but I think it's been dropped one too many times (dh is never careful with it...grrr!) It just doesn't take clear, crisp pictures anymore. I already have a Canon 75-300 lens. Does anybody know if it will fit the Nikon? I really like this lens and I'd hate to have to replace it but I do not want another Canon for various reasons.

Thanks!!
 
No - unfortunately lenses are generally specific to the mount - Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus, or Sony/Minolta. There are adapters sometimes available to use a different mount lens on your camera, but they are often manual focus only, manual aperture, sometimes compromise the quality a bit, and really only worth it when you have very expensive glass you want to keep but moved to a different mount.
 

Thanks so much for the help. I guess I'll do some research on other lenses and make my decision from there.

Jen :)
 
Since you are switching brands anyway, have you considered others like Pentax our a Sony? I don't know much about Sony, but you can get a really good deal on a Pentax K-x with a 18-55mm and 50-300mm kit.
 
As you've probably guessed, I know very little about photography. I LOVE taking/having pictures and seem to have a really good eye for what will make a really nice picture, but I don't know all the ins and outs of photography. Someday before I die, I will take a photography class, but right now my work schedule just won't allow it. (I am a nurse and my hours are all over the place from week to week)

I am looking into the Nikon simply because my sister has one and she really loves it and I've used it before it find it simple and easy.

If you have any advice on choosing a camera, I'm all ears!!! :)
 
Canon is on par with the other brands. If the lens you have is an EF one you may want to stay with the camera brand.

Canon is now on the t3i model I think, definitely t2i. I have the t1i and it is an outstanding camera and I think it is selling for around $600+ dollars.
 
Someday before I die, I will take a photography class, but right now my work schedule just won't allow it. (I am a nurse and my hours are all over the place from week to week)
If I did it, you can do it! ;)

The more you put into it, the more you'll get out of it.
 
Nikon is great, really can not go wrong with any of the current companies.

The lens you do own will work with Canon, and IMO should be a consideration. Buying similar Nikon lens will require a couple hundred additional dollars.

Canon is on par with the other brands. If the lens you have is an EF one you may want to stay with the camera brand.

Canon is now on the t3i model I think, definitely t2i. I have the t1i and it is an outstanding camera and I think it is selling for around $600+ dollars.

Hey Manning...
Yes Canons Rebel line is upto t3i @ $799.
t2i is selling for $649 while the t1i is at $549
 
Just out of curiousity, what are the other reasons of why you don't want a Canon???

I remember when I was looking into dslr's, I was just as confused as any n00b. One of the main reasons I avoided Nikon is because of a bad experience with a p&s of theirs. Well... I actually started with a nice Nikon p&s, but a couple of years later bought a newer model Nikon p&s that was a total pain. So my limited knowledge was like, "if the newer camera is worse than the old one, should I really trust the rest of their cameras??". But now that I know a little more about cameras, and photography in general, I know that my previous thinking was flawed. But after that bad Nikon, I made the jump to a Canon bridge camera. And since I loved that camera, Canon was the way to go, for me, when finally getting a dslr.

But as others have said, many brands are great. And don't totally disregard Canon; especially since you have already invested in a lens you love.
 
I'm just gonna say that the Canon 75-300 lens that you have is a very entry level, very outdated lens and you're not loosing much by ditching it. It was a good lens for film but IMO it just doesn't cut it for digital. I have it and not long after going digital I replaced it in my bag.

I love Canon and am not trying to sway you from the brand. But I wouldn't stay with it just for a low cost, low end lens.
 
I want to go with Nikon because I currently have a Canon Rebel EOS and it's about 7 years old. I paid almost $1,000 for it and it has NEVER taken good, crisp pictures. I have experimented with the settings a lot and nothing really helped. Now, the pictures are okay, but I'd call them P&S quality. My daughter's Kodak Easyshare takes better pictures. A couple years ago a woman approached me when she saw me with the camera and told me she had the same problem with hers. She had replaced a Nikon P&S and was thinking of just going back to that.
 
I want to go with Nikon because I currently have a Canon Rebel EOS and it's about 7 years old. I paid almost $1,000 for it and it has NEVER taken good, crisp pictures. I have experimented with the settings a lot and nothing really helped. Now, the pictures are okay, but I'd call them P&S quality. My daughter's Kodak Easyshare takes better pictures. A couple years ago a woman approached me when she saw me with the camera and told me she had the same problem with hers. She had replaced a Nikon P&S and was thinking of just going back to that.

I'm sorry but I have to jump in here. That's not really a fair comparison. If you're talking about an EOS anywhere near 7 years, you have to be talking about 2nd gen at best and likely 1st gen considering what you paid for it (Canon set a mark to be the FIRST to release a digital/consumer DSLR for under a thousand dollars). To compare that camera to even today's PnS's would be like comparing a 1990 PC to today's premium consumer desktops. It's just not fair.

Canon v. Nikon is mostly the age-old Chevy v. Ford analogy. IT all depends on who you talk to and one will serve you as well as the other if everybody would just leave their opinions and predujices out of it. ;)

I have a T2i now and have had virtually every consumer Rebel released (REALLY!) and I'll put my T2i up against any of the competition. Head's up, in a blind test, I'd dare anyone to tell me from a 8x10 off the same printer which shot came from which camera. Sure, there are some pros that probably could, but most of us could not. Period.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to good quality glass and the experience behind the viewfinder. I'll take a pro photographer and hand him a 12meg PnS and his shots will consistently beat any amatuer's best attempts with the best equipment regardless the brand.

Having said all that, it really doesn't matter which brand you choose. The good news is that you'll win with any of the above (Pentax and Sony included).

Remember, the original Rebel was what, 6 megs? I had one but I can't remember now. Anyway, even the low-midlevel cameras in the PnS line have been 8+ megs for a few years now. Even that's not a fair analogy. The improvement in sensors and everything else including dark values has improved magnitudes. The technical merits of today's cameras v. even those of 5 years ago just simply makes any sensible comparison not even possible.

Do yourself one favor though. At least give the new Canons a fair look and look at value v. price and make the best decision for you. But please, please... don't do yourself the injustice of basing your decision not to buy a Canon based on the first consumer digital on the market. To do so is doing yourself a tremendous injustice and would be unfair to any brand, regardless the manufacturer. The original Rebel was the cat's a$$ and revolutionary for it's time. I know. As I said, I had one.
 
I want to go with Nikon because I currently have a Canon Rebel EOS and it's about 7 years old. I paid almost $1,000 for it and it has NEVER taken good, crisp pictures. I have experimented with the settings a lot and nothing really helped. Now, the pictures are okay, but I'd call them P&S quality. My daughter's Kodak Easyshare takes better pictures. A couple years ago a woman approached me when she saw me with the camera and told me she had the same problem with hers. She had replaced a Nikon P&S and was thinking of just going back to that.

Are you sure a new camera will solve your problems and you won't keep having the same issues with a new DSLR? As much as people don't like to hear it, often soft images are a user issue and not a camera issue.
 
I want to go with Nikon because I currently have a Canon Rebel EOS and it's about 7 years old. I paid almost $1,000 for it and it has NEVER taken good, crisp pictures. I have experimented with the settings a lot and nothing really helped. Now, the pictures are okay, but I'd call them P&S quality. My daughter's Kodak Easyshare takes better pictures. A couple years ago a woman approached me when she saw me with the camera and told me she had the same problem with hers. She had replaced a Nikon P&S and was thinking of just going back to that.


While I won't try to dissuade you from moving to the Nikon camp (I'm a big Nikon fan), your lack of sharp pictures is probably due to the cheap glass on the front of your body.

You can have a brand new top of the line $7000 flagship body, if you put a cheap piece of glass on it, it's going to make it look like a cheap camera. Conversely, you can get an entry level D3100, slap a good piece of pro optics on it (12-24 2.8, 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 in Nikkor zooms) and take spectacular pictures. This is why I've generally stuck with prosumer/enthusiast bodies instead of flagship pro bodies, I put the cash I saved towards better glass. Most of us don't need 9fps and the massive buffers you get with pro bodies. Hell, I've shot an old D100 for a long, long time (a circa 2002 body mind you), only recently upgrading. And honestly, the only reason I'm upgrading is for a new, better sensitivity sensor, not much else. The other thing my D100 has really restricted me on is shooting high ISO in low light. Don't get me wrong, I've spent a lot of time behind the newer bodies over the years and had the lust to upgrade, but I just ended up spending the coin on new glass, carbon fiber tripods, better accessories, etc.

Honestly, bodies are pretty much almost disposable these days, unlike film bodies. I paid $2000 for my D100 8.5 years ago, I'll be lucky to get $200 back out of it. I'll get over twice that for my 13 year old Nikon F5.. I'm getting way off topic here.

You can't go wrong with Nikon or Canon, both make great equipment. There are popular focal lengths in each system, similar pricing and similar quality. Canon does some lenses better than Nikon and Nikon does some better than Canon. In "pro" glass, they're both top notch.

Do yourself a big favor, don't factor that piece of glass you currently have into what system you're going to shoot. Get rid of it, it's on the low end of bad. Then go out to your local camera stores and see what they seem to stock more of and see what FEELS more comfortable to you. The Canon 60D and 7D are both great bodies that rank right up there (again, pros and cons to both systems) with the Nikon D7000 that I picked up, but I just can't get used to the Canon ergonomics, it's just not comfortable for my hands, I'm simply a Nikon guy, I'm used to their ergonomics.

See what ones feel the most comfortable, then pick from there. Does your local shop not carry Canon very heavily or not at all? Ritz Camera has stopped carrying Canon almost entirely at this point, for example. And if your area is like mine, Ritz is the only "decent" camera store around. We have exactly one "real", non chain camera shop in Pittsburgh and they are TERRIBLE. So for me, it's Ritz or mail\web order. Maybe factor that into your decision. Do they favor Canon over Nikon, then again, factor that in.

But regardless, put some decent glass on the end of it. I see many new SLR users that just can't stand the idea of putting a piece of glass on their camera that costs more than the camera itself does, but I assure you, this is the right way to go!

Oh, and don't necessarily get caught up in the megapixel wars. Anything over 10 and you're fine as long as you compose the shot decently and don't have to crop the hell out of it. My 6mp D100 has produced many 8x10's that look fantastic.

HTH
 
Hi all,

I'm new to DIS and planning our 2nd family Disney trip for July 2011. I am very interested in getting a new camera before we go and I'm looking at the Nikon D3100. I am trying to decide whether to get the one that comes with the extra 55-200 lens or save my $300 and just go with the regular lens.

I have been using a Canon for years but I think it's been dropped one too many times (dh is never careful with it...grrr!) It just doesn't take clear, crisp pictures anymore. I already have a Canon 75-300 lens. Does anybody know if it will fit the Nikon? I really like this lens and I'd hate to have to replace it but I do not want another Canon for various reasons.

Thanks!!

Check on Beach camera.com. THey have a bundle I was looking at for my son and included the 55 - 200 for about $150 more.
$749 AFTER a $200 instant rebate, free shipping and no tax.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=NKD3100KT2
 
Wow, you guys have given me lots to think about, I love it!!!!

I went out last night just to look at what is out there and found...NOTHING. Like you mentioned above, I think I'll have to go to a Ritz Camera shop in order to really get my hands on what I want to look at. I didn't have enough time to drive to the closest one last night though.

I think I do prefer the feel of the Nikon over the Canon. Seems silly, but it just seems to fit better in my hands. I think I'm leaning towards the D3100 and saving up for a good lens. I completely believe what you're all saying about a better lens making all the difference. My 75-300 lens does take better pictures than the 18-55 that came with the camera. Unfortunately, it's not always practical to use the long lens. After reading lots of reviews, it sounds like the D3100 is a great starter camera and God knows, I'm a beginner!

I want to thank you all SO much for your help. I will definitely stick around to learn all I can from you guys. I'm always amazed at how helpful total strangers can be online. I hope you don't mind if I lurk around! I think I have a lot to learn before I can help others ;)
 
How it feels in your hands is actually a really important thing. The better it feels the more you'll use it.
 


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