Strollers

[imthatgirl]

It's equaling annoying when people try to jump out infront of you not caring that you are pushinga stroller and can't stop as quickly as they'd like you too.

 

[Scubee]

It's equaling annoying when people try to jump out infront of you not caring that you are pushinga stroller and can't stop as quickly as they'd like you too.

We were stopped looking at the gorillas on one of the AK trails last week. A woman in front of me took a couple of big steps backwards and walked into my stroller. She turned around and gave me the nastiest look. She made a point to cut me off later in the trail after we had passed her at some point.

 

[wmharley]

Even at 2 mph, stroller is sharp and can hurt someone, imagine not even adult but a little kid's feet. Nobody blames strollers for every sitution as I pointed earlier but keeping distance is important. Lets not forget that we are talking about a park where people walk, nobody said they should keep moving no matter what and nobody looks behind before stops, you do not do it while drive( talking about emergency stops, not a pull over), and you do not do it while walk. And I go during very busy times, I never saw a wall of people (except leaving park) when you must keep moving. There is always plenty of space. Even when you exit a park, you should be careful and be able to stop, you move extremely slow and should predict that people stop much more then during regular time. I agree that people without strollers should watch out when they change direction but in other situations you should watch out, lets not forget that you are the one with a sharp stroller.

While I don't disagree the point we all should be careful, and try to give enough space, that's not feasible 100% of the time.

not sure if you have walked with a stroller or not, and have had people cut in front of you, or get in front and abruptly stop.

those folks have the blame as much as the non-paying attention stroller, which you are neglecting to point out.

I have more people hit me and my stroller from stopping abruptly or cutting in front (which causes me to hit them), than me actually hitting them because of my lack of attention.

Let's not neglect those folks, which is what my original post was about. I'll watch out with my stroller for the walkers, if the walkers watch out for me and my space too.

don't blame one more than the other.

 

[wmharley]

Even at 2 mph, stroller is sharp and can hurt someone, imagine not even adult but a little kid's feet. Nobody blames strollers for every sitution as I pointed earlier but keeping distance is important. Lets not forget that we are talking about a park where people walk, nobody said they should keep moving no matter what and nobody looks behind before stops, you do not do it while drive( talking about emergency stops, not a pull over), and you do not do it while walk. And I go during very busy times, I never saw a wall of people (except leaving park) when you must keep moving. There is always plenty of space. Even when you exit a park, you should be careful and be able to stop, you move extremely slow and should predict that people stop much more then during regular time. I agree that people without strollers should watch out when they change direction but in other situations you should watch out, lets not forget that you are the one with a sharp stroller.

Actually I do. I hate for people to stop abruptly in front of me, so I make it a point to not do the same either. If a member of my family stops and I see someone behind them, i'll tell my family member to watch out or move, and have actually pulled them away.

When I come to a stop, especially a higher speed stop on the road, or at a light or interstate (due to traffic), I'm aware of the person behind me, and am ready to veer to the shoulder if the person behind me seems to be not able to stop. I've avoided countless accidents like this within the last few yrs.

 

[afwdwfan]

When I come to a stop, especially a higher speed stop on the road, or at a light or interstate (due to traffic), I'm aware of the person behind me, and am ready to veer to the shoulder if the person behind me seems to be not able to stop. I've avoided countless accidents like this within the last few yrs.

If more people understood the concept of defensive driving, think about all the money we could save on insurance. That Gecko would be out of a job.

 

[KellyNY]

While I don't disagree the point we all should be careful, and try to give enough space, that's not feasible 100% of the time.

not sure if you have walked with a stroller or not, and have had people cut in front of you, or get in front and abruptly stop.

those folks have the blame as much as the non-paying attention stroller, which you are neglecting to point out.

I have more people hit me and my stroller from stopping abruptly or cutting in front (which causes me to hit them), than me actually hitting them because of my lack of attention.

Let's not neglect those folks, which is what my original post was about. I'll watch out with my stroller for the walkers, if the walkers watch out for me and my space too.

don't blame one more than the other.

What are you talking about? In my original and other posts and even the one you just quoted, I clearly said that if someone change direction, he is to blame, not a stroller. I blame strollers only for rear-ending people who stop or slow down, due to being too fast and not keeping distance. Seriously, read my whole post, not just portion.

 

[Aggiegrl]

Well if we're going to have to start following the 2 second spacing at WDW, they're going to have to start limiting the number of daily admissions significantly.

This. This totally.

Driving a car and walking are two entirely different things. A car does not have the ability to stop instantly like a person does. A person does not have brake lights.

I'm sorry, but if you stop suddenly for no good reason in front of me and I hit you with the stroller, its your fault unless I'm not paying attention. My stroller doesn't have brakes. You are at the mercy of the muscles in my skinny little arms. If I can't stop the stroller, I can't stop the stroller.

 

[KellyNY]

Actually I do. I hate for people to stop abruptly in front of me, so I make it a point to not do the same either. If a member of my family stops and I see someone behind them, i'll tell my family member to watch out or move, and have actually pulled them away.

When I come to a stop, especially a higher speed stop on the road, or at a light or interstate (due to traffic), I'm aware of the person behind me, and am ready to veer to the shoulder if the person behind me seems to be not able to stop. I've avoided countless accidents like this within the last few yrs.

Ok, lets investigate. So while I want to stop, I should turn around and look, while I am still walking, and since I am not looking in front of me if someone will stop, I will bump right into this person. Fine if I have no stroller, bad if I do. So please, by any means, if you push a stroller, keep your eyes on a road. About driving, same thing pretty much, actually worse, while you try to avoid someone who "pushes" you on a road, and therefore kepp moving or change lanes suddenly you can get hit by cross traffic, esp. if we are talking about stopping on a red light or another car you jumped infront of(just like people change direction and jump infront of strollers). So whose fault it will be after all, yours. You are not avoiding accidents, you create a dangerous situation on a road. My moto, someone needs to drive or walk faster then me, go around, the road is wide.

 

[KellyNY]

This. This totally.

Driving a car and walking are two entirely different things. A car does not have the ability to stop instantly like a person does. A person does not have brake lights.

I'm sorry, but if you stop suddenly for no good reason in front of me and I hit you with the stroller, its your fault unless I'm not paying attention. My stroller doesn't have brakes. You are at the mercy of the muscles in my skinny little arms. If I can't stop the stroller, I can't stop the stroller.

If you can't stop then walk slowly and keep a distance. Park is not a highway or a bridge, people can and will stop for any reason.

 

[brunette8706]

 

[Aggiegrl]

If you can't stop then walk slowly and keep a distance. Park is not a highway or a bridge, people can and will stop for any reason.

How on earth do you keep a distance while walking through Fantasyland? If I wanted to keep, say, 5 ft in front of me, I would never make it through. People push past you, come out from various directions, cut in, etc. especially if you are walking slowly. I'd have to keep stopping/slowing down to adjust my "spacing" which would just bottleneck the area even more.

I don't make a habit of getting close to people, but you shouldn't make a habit of stopping abruptly in the middle of a crowded walkway either. Spacing yourself appropriately isn't a problem in most areas, but there are definite bottlenecks in the parks where its nearly impossible to accomplish. Amazingly, these bottlenecks also contain the highest percentage of "looky loos" who stop abruptly in front of large lines of moving people.

 

[Aggiegrl]

Ok, lets investigate. So while I want to stop, I should turn around and look, while I am still walking, and since I am not looking in front of me if someone will stop, I will bump right into this person. Fine if I have no stroller, bad if I do. So please, by any means, if you push a stroller, keep your eyes on a road. About driving, same thing pretty much, actually worse, while you try to avoid someone who "pushes" you on a road, and therefore kepp moving or change lanes suddenly you can get hit by cross traffic, esp. if we are talking about stopping on a red light or another car you jumped infront of(just like people change direction and jump infront of strollers). So whose fault it will be after all, yours. You are not avoiding accidents, you create a dangerous situation on a road. My moto, someone needs to drive or walk faster then me, go around, the road is wide.

I can quickly glance over my shoulder while walking and I've never run into anyone. Its called peripheral vision. It takes a split second.

PS-the road is not always wide in WDW. There are some definite narrow areas.

 

[KellyNY]

How on earth do you keep a distance while walking through Fantasyland? If I wanted to keep, say, 5 ft in front of me, I would never make it through. People push past you, come out from various directions, cut in, etc. especially if you are walking slowly. I'd have to keep stopping/slowing down to adjust my "spacing" which would just bottleneck the area even more.

I don't make a habit of getting close to people, but you shouldn't make a habit of stopping abruptly in the middle of a crowded walkway either. Spacing yourself appropriately isn't a problem in most areas, but there are definite bottlenecks in the parks where its nearly impossible to accomplish. Amazingly, these bottlenecks also contain the highest percentage of "looky loos" who stop abruptly in front of large lines of moving people.

It does not matter if it will slow you down in Fantasy land or any other place, you push a heavy, sharp object, so be aware of people around and be careful. And what about "looky loos", seriously, parks aren't for running and pushing way to the next attraction, it is about walking, stopping and enjoying.

 

[KellyNY]

I can quickly glance over my shoulder while walking and I've never run into anyone. Its called peripheral vision. It takes a split second.

PS-the road is not always wide in WDW. There are some definite narrow areas.

Long enough to bump into someone who stopped infront of you.

 

[mistysue]

If you were stopping so fast that a person glancing for a split second to see if there is a crowd behind them walks into you, then you are stopping in a stupid spot. That is your own fault.

To the OP: That sucks. I hope it heals well and quickly. I am going to assume you are a normal innocent person who just got rolled into by some jerk or you probably wouldn't have said anything.

 

[CaptMarge]

 

[Cat0727]

I tend to try my darnedest to keep a distance from strollers in the parks. I know if I get too close, the inevitable bump will come

 

[KellyNY]

If you were stopping so fast that a person glancing for a split second to see if there is a crowd behind them walks into you, then you are stopping in a stupid spot. That is your own fault.

To the OP: That sucks. I hope it heals well and quickly. I am going to assume you are a normal innocent person who just got rolled into by some jerk or you probably wouldn't have said anything.

So it is never a non looker fault, right. When people exit parks, for example, they stop all the time because they simply get separated. Is it OK not to expect it and not to pay attention. This is a "stupid spot" when split second will cost someone skin. While everyone should be careful in park, drivers should be more careful then pedestrians and so stroller pushers more careful then walkers.

 

[badblackpug]

It's equaling annoying when people try to jump out infront of you not caring that you are pushinga stroller and can't stop as quickly as they'd like you too.

This I don't understand. It's a stroller, not a freight train. It stops when you stop.

I also don't understand the "stopping for no good reason." What's a good reason? If I have a good reason does it mean that you won't run up my heels? Should I state said reason before stopping?

Seriously...everybody needs to try their best to watch where they are going, but even so, accidents will happen, just be polite. Try not to block the flow of "traffic." Do not use your stroller as a battering ram.

Can we talk about the woman who practically pushed my stroller over (with the baby in it!) instead of going around me?

 

[disneymomma1978]

this is why I put spikes on the front of DD3's stroller. that way no one cuts us off!