All you gals that said you liked the Q Snap frames, well I went and bought a couple from Joann.com. I got them 3 days after I placed the order online and I LOVE THEM! They are awesome, keep things nice and tight. I will never go back to the circle hoop again. I bought the 11x11 and the 8x8 and it came to just under $25 with the sale they had. Anyway, for those of you that don't have them and are wondering, they are great! Thanks to the gals who recommended them.