STILL NOT RUNNING ?!?!?!

[TheRustyScupper]

1) Skyliner went down Saturday.
2) This is Tuesday, early AM, and not running yet.
3) HOW IS THIS WORKING FOR YOU, OGRE (aka: Iger)?

NOTE:
. . . Ogre should have worried more about guest satisfaction, instead of the cost savings & eliminating bus drivers.
. . . Park attendance is going downhill, and all Ogre wants is to reduce labor costs.
. . . Maybe, increasing guests experiences will bring back the attendance level(s) ?

HINT TO DIS/ABC
. . . Just "because you build it", they will not always come
. . . No wonder Universal-Orlando just got voted BEST AMUSEMENT PARK IN-THE-WORLD!

 

[sam_gordon]

1) Skyliner went down Saturday.
2) This is Tuesday, early AM, and not running yet.
3) HOW IS THIS WORKING FOR YOU, OGRE (aka: Iger)?

NOTE:
. . . Ogre should have worried more about guest satisfaction, instead of the cost savings & eliminating bus drivers.
. . . Park attendance is going downhill, and all Ogre wants is to reduce labor costs.
. . . Maybe, increasing guests experiences will bring back the attendance level(s) ?

HINT TO DIS/ABC
. . . Just "because you build it", they will not always come
. . . No wonder Universal-Orlando just got voted BEST AMUSEMENT PARK IN-THE-WORLD!

OK, I don't get the complaint. Would you rather they just say "ok, not a problem, start using it again"? Or is it better that they investigate and at least attempt to fix the problem?

Don't you work for Disney?

 

[FCDub]

You’ve GOT to be kidding me.

 

[Alesia]

I will be very surprised if it's down for less than a week. They are going to have to do a full investigation and that takes time

 

[Allison]

Your Ogre reference is tired and overdone. We get it. You don't like the guy and spend a lot of time thinking about him.

Would you prefer they rush to open it again before thoroughly investigating the cause of the incident?

 

[MeridaAnn]

I would be very alarmed if they were already running again already. A bare minimum downtime should be AT LEAST a week. On top of identifying the physical cause of the pile-up at the Riviera station, fixing it, and putting in new preventative methods to ensure it can't happen again, they also need to add identification numbers to the bottom of the cars, replace all the emergency packs, run new evacuation drills with emergency services, write and train personnel in different communication procedures, and many other items before they should be in operation again.

 

[ScubaCat]

Can't really set a time frame because none of us (I'm assuming?) are gondola engineers. I'm guessing it's more complicated than a broken tie rod though. They ran weighted tests for months with no issue, so identifying what caused this might be tricky. And then, the rest of the system will have to be inspected for the same issue beyond fixing the initial diagnosis.

Once the issue is identified and fixed, there's almost certainly a test protocol that has to run before passengers can ride again. Similar to when a ride (roller coaster especially) trips a sensor and a certain number of cars have to be run through before the ride can officially open again.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

Don’t you work for Disney?

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

1) Skyliner went down Saturday.
2) This is Tuesday, early AM, and not running yet.
3) HOW IS THIS WORKING FOR YOU, OGRE (aka: Iger)?

NOTE:
. . . Ogre should have worried more about guest satisfaction, instead of the cost savings & eliminating bus drivers.
. . . Park attendance is going downhill, and all Ogre wants is to reduce labor costs.
. . . Maybe, increasing guests experiences will bring back the attendance level(s) ?

HINT TO DIS/ABC
. . . Just "because you build it", they will not always come
. . . No wonder Universal-Orlando just got voted BEST AMUSEMENT PARK IN-THE-WORLD!

DH (civil engineering) says they will be investigating a lot of different things, and it takes time. They have to look at the physical (the gondolas, the brake system, etc) as well as the electrical and technical. They will be looking for anomolies, bad specs, bad materials, etc. If anyone had been injured, then they will need to look at that too (why the injury, does it need seatbelts, etc).

personally, I'm glad they are taking the time to investigate what happened and why. Better to do so now, with a minor accident, then in 3 years with a major one.

 

[smiths02]

I don't care how long they take, I am not planning a trip to Disney and am not a Disney stockholder, but if Wikipedia is correct re-openings don't necessarily take until the investigation is complete. This is what happened when someone died in a monorail accident...notice that the monorails were running the next day! The investigation took 2 years.

"On July 5, 2009, during a failed track switchover from the Epcot line onto the Magic Kingdom express line, Monorail Pink backed into Monorail Purple at the Transportation & Ticket Center station, killing the 21-year-old Monorail Purple pilot.[21] One employee and six guests who were also on the trains were treated at the scene and released.[22] OSHA and park officials inspected the monorail line and the monorail reopened on July 6, 2009, after new sensors and operating procedures were put in place.[23][24] An investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) showed no mechanical problems with the trains or track but did find that the track used in the switchover was not in its proper place for the track transition. The NTSB also noted that Purple's pilot attempted to reverse his train when he saw that there was going to be a collision. Disney placed three monorail employees on paid administrative leave as a result of the incident.[25] On October 31, 2011, the NTSB issued its findings on this incident, citing the probable cause as the shop panel operator's failure to properly align the switch beam before the monorail train was directed to reverse through it. As a result of this incident, guests are no longer allowed to ride in the cab of the monorail.[26]"

 

[ImDMous]

In February of this year, Sea World San Diego's skyride came to an emergency stop when a high gust of wind tangled one of the communication cables around a gondola car's attachment point. They had to get everyone down in the dark, during a storm, over water. There were 16 people trapped and it took them 3 1/2 hours. They know the exact cause, OSHA has agreed and found no fault with Sea World for the stoppage or the rescue procedure. The ride is still closed, 8 months later. Granted Disney has a lot more money to throw at problems and resolve them quickly, but I'm not expecting any kind of reopening for at least the rest of the year. Maybe I'm being pessimistic, I guess we'll see.

 

[Lewisc]

In February of this year, Sea World San Diego's skyride came to an emergency stop when a high gust of wind tangled one of the communication cables around a gondola car's attachment point. They had to get everyone down in the dark, during a storm, over water. There were 16 people trapped and it took them 3 1/2 hours. They know the exact cause, OSHA has agreed and found no fault with Sea World for the stoppage or the rescue procedure. The ride is still closed, 8 months later. Granted Disney has a lot more money to throw at problems and resolve them quickly, but I'm not expecting any kind of reopening for at least the rest of the year. Maybe I'm being pessimistic, I guess we'll see.

but the ride isn't closed.
https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/09/18/seaworld-skyride-reopens-after-7-month-closure/
That's the problem. Too many posters are posting half truths, and even total BS, as facts.

Disney got rid of the skyride in MK years ago. I suspect Sea World was debating closing the ride permanently.

The "doom and gloom" crowd need to differentiate between what can go wrong during regular operations and what can happen during extraordinary circumstances. A plane crashing into the skyliner would obviously be an issue, but that same plane could just as easily crash elsewhere and cause even more damage. . A saboteur who cut the line could just as easily pick a different target.

 

[ImDMous]

but the ride isn't closed.
https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/09/18/seaworld-skyride-reopens-after-7-month-closure/
That's the problem. Too many posters are posting half truths, and even total BS, as facts.

Disney got rid of the skyride in MK years ago. I suspect Sea World was debating closing the ride permanently.

The "doom and gloom" crowd need to differentiate between what can go wrong during regular operations and what can happen during extraordinary circumstances. A plane crashing into the skyliner would obviously be an issue, but that same plane could just as easily crash elsewhere and cause even more damage. . A saboteur who cut the line could just as easily pick a different target.

I was just there a couple weekends ago, we have passes and I haven't seen it open since February. I love that ride and always check on it. The station still had boards up around it last time we went by. Maybe they opened it right after that? My point still stands, it was closed for 7 1/2 months instead of 8. Disney's is still not going to open in 3 days. If it did, I would be very suspicious unless they can prove they know what caused it and can show what steps they've taken to avoid it.

 

[Dis703]

Really? Given what happened I wouldn't be surprised if it was closed for a few months.

 

[Lewisc]

I was just there a couple weekends ago, we have passes and I haven't seen it open since February. I love that ride and always check on it. The station still had boards up around it last time we went by. Maybe they opened it right after that? My point still stands, it was closed for 7 1/2 months instead of 8. Disney's is still not going to open in 3 days. If it did, I would be very suspicious unless they can prove they know what caused it and can show what steps they've taken to avoid it.

I gave you a link to the article showing the reopening. It opened 9/18, more then 2 weekends ago. There is a big difference between still closed after 8 months and re-opening after 7 months. I wouldn't have bothered posting if you said it re-opened after 8 months instead of 7. My issue was with your claim it was still closed.

I'll speculate, Sea World was debating closing it forever.

 

[Lewisc]

I think Skyliner will be running in a relatively short period of time BUT there seem to be issues at the Riviera station with strollers and ECVs. Could Disney re-open the Skyliner but not the Riviera station? That will give Disney a couple of months, prior to Riviera resort opening, to perfect procedures.

I was one of the posters who thought Disney would eliminate, or substantially reduce, bus service to EPCOT and DHS. I no longer think that.

 

[DebbieB]

I don't care how long they take, I am not planning a trip to Disney and am not a Disney stockholder, but if Wikipedia is correct re-openings don't necessarily take until the investigation is complete. This is what happened when someone died in a monorail accident...notice that the monorails were running the next day! The investigation took 2 years.

They have not allowed guests to ride in the front since the accident, even after the investigation. The accident happened during a track switch so they put procedures in place during track switches. I don't know if they pinned down the problem for the gondolas.

They were lucky no one was injured in the gondola accident. I work in insurance and if you have a second accident as a result of the same thing that was not corrected, you will get slammed on lawsuits. You can't claim it was unexpected.

 

[erc]

Maybe don't feed the trolls?

 

[smiths02]

They have not allowed guests to ride in the front since the accident, even after the investigation. The accident happened during a track switch so they put procedures in place during track switches. I don't know if they pinned down the problem for the gondolas.

They were lucky no one was injured in the gondola accident. I work in insurance and if you have a second accident as a result of the same thing that was not corrected, you will get slammed on lawsuits. You can't claim it was unexpected.

Oh, I agree they should be careful. I don't expect it to be open so soon. I just googled because I was curious. I highly doubt it would be MONTHS, though, as some are speculating.

 

[JaxDad]

Maybe don't feed the trolls?

But they used all caps and multiple exclamation and question marks. It must be very important.