Steve McNair

[Terry36]

Yeah, the man had an affair. It was wrong. But he still did NOT deserve to die. Of course I feel sorry for his wife and children. And for the Kazemi family. But I also feel sorry for Steve. I don't care how badly you screw up in life...no one deserves to be brutally murdered.

I agree with this also.

 

[The Iron Giant]

Yeah, the man had an affair. It was wrong. But he still did NOT deserve to die. Of course I feel sorry for his wife and children. And for the Kazemi family. But I also feel sorry for Steve. I don't care how badly you screw up in life...no one deserves to be brutally murdered.

I still love Steve. And I'll always remember him for the GOOD in him, NOT as "that scumbag that cheated on his wife"

I agree... he suffered a tragic death. He did not deserve that and I feel bad for his family.

But its a shame that we set the bar so low in society. I have read articles about all the charity work McNair did and it seems like he really helped a lot of people. But when you make millions of dollars playing a sport and spend some of it to help the less fortunate it is not a free pass to act like a jerk in your personal life.

I'm sure that McNair was a pretty decent guy with some flaws like the rest of us, but I just don't see the need to ignore the circumstances of his death. Mostly because there are a lot of decent people in the world that help people and do charitable works and do it without cheating on their spouses. Those are the people that are deserving of our praise. But unfortunately we don't hear about those people because they didn't play a professional sport.

 

[asta]

Apparently, the only person who thought they were divorcing was the girlfriend.

Ummm, he hasn't played pro football for over a year.

The family lived in Nashville, but he also kept a condo in Nashville. He was seen at the condo with the girlfriend so many times that some of the neighbors assumed that they both lived there. He took his girlfriend of six months on at least three out of town vacations. Pictures of McNair and his girlfriend on vacation were published.

He may never have told his wife that he was cheating and she may never have confronted him about it, but she had to have known.

In my mind, this entire situation can be summed up and explained with a simple saying that was told to me and my teamates by a coach when we were maybe ten or eleven, "Cheaters never prosper".

I'm sorry for McNair's kids. I'm sorry for Sahel Kazemi's family. Heck, I'm sorry for Sahel Kazemi.

Still clarifying some statements here. I want to make it clear that I think McNair's personal behavior was beyond despicable. I was just addressing why it might be easy for the wife to ignore her husband's behavior. Many of these athletes have multiple living arrangements long after they are finished playing. My neighbor was a big time pro player several (many?) years ago and he still travels between two to three homes. They get involved with charities in their home towns, college towns and places where they played pro ball. They travel for these obligations and it would be easy to get used to not having a husband around. And I think these guys are followed around by women like groupies follow rock stars. For all the money these athletes make, I wouldn't want their life style at all.

As far as McNair being at the condo all of the time, people are confusing the condo with her apartment. Those statements were made by people at her apartment complex and I doubt that he was there as much as these people said. McNair's closest friends have made statements that they were not that aware of this girl. I think they were aware that he was out and around with many different people but didn't see it as being with anyone special. I really think that this girl was making more of the relationship than was actually there. She was so young and just couldn't handle the truth.

I still think that it is terrible that he preyed upon someone so young. I also think that it is very sad that there was no one in this young woman's life who would step in and advise her to stop her behavior. Hanging around older, married men, taking trips with them and dressing in borderline obscene clothing. This could only end up bad for her.

 

[diznygirl]

A lot of professional sports franchises require their athletes to do charity work. It's marketing for the franchise. And a lot of business managers encourage their wealthy clients to donate money to charity to offset their taxes. I don't see those things as an indication of what a good man he was. I think we found out what kind of "man" he was.

 

[lemondog]

A lot of professional sports franchises require their athletes to do charity work. It's marketing for the franchise. And a lot of business managers encourage their wealthy clients to donate money to charity to offset their taxes. I don't see those things as an indication of what a good man he was. I think we found out what kind of "man" he was.

I am talking about all the stuff he did in Nashville after he was no longer part of any team. It was nothing he was required to do. And I know plenty of wealthy people who don't sink their money, and personal time, which he did, into the community like he did. There are much easier ways to get a tax write-off.

 

[blissventure]

I agree... he suffered a tragic death. He did not deserve that and I feel bad for his family.

But its a shame that we set the bar so low in society. I have read articles about all the charity work McNair did and it seems like he really helped a lot of people. But when you make millions of dollars playing a sport and spend some of it to help the less fortunate it is not a free pass to act like a jerk in your personal life.

I'm sure that McNair was a pretty decent guy with some flaws like the rest of us, but I just don't see the need to ignore the circumstances of his death. Mostly because there are a lot of decent people in the world that help people and do charitable works and do it without cheating on their spouses. Those are the people that are deserving of our praise. But unfortunately we don't hear about those people because they didn't play a professional sport.

Agreed. He (and the killer) both were living lives of doing exactly whatever they wanted, regardless of the cost. Sadly, I'm sure he never dreamed the fun would end this way. Her final choice was more extreme, with permanent consequences for both of them.
McNair will be remembered somewhat for what he did in the NFL, locals will recall his charity work, but most people will first and foremost remember the circumstances of his death. Just the way it is.

You know who I hope will be the heroes in this tragedy? First, I hope his wife finds the strength to gently help her children through this horrible situation. The Dad they loved made selfish choices, without regard to their young lives. It hurts, and I hope their Mom can help them in the coming months with compassion and love. The kids have a very long road ahead of them.
Second, I hope that former teammates/coaches will step up over the coming years and be there for those kids now and then. Their gift of time could make a huge difference.
It's truly one of the saddest stories I've heard in awhile. All we can do is keep the family in our prayers.

 

[sbell111]

... McNair will be remembered somewhat for what he did in the NFL, locals will recall his charity work, but most people will first and foremost remember the circumstances of his death. Just the way it is. ...

Hopefully, locals will start holding Titans players accountable for their actions. For too long, these men have been treated as heroes, even though they have acted like thugs. I am not merely talking about how McNair weasled his way out of the two DUI arrests or the arrest for illegal gun possession, but those are certainly examples of the problem.

 

[Seahunt]

The DUI arrest is on youtube if you haven't seen it yet. There are some interesting comments from the cop in both of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB3e3OZche4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_IscnNI-BA

 

[hereyago]

So he left her after they got pulled over. The officer said he told McNair he could go talk to her, but he choose not to.
Yes, they were both intoxicated, but I believe when you are drunk, it kind of shows your true self, because you have no inhibitions.
Then after he bailed her out, she went to buy the gun. Perhaps, while she was in the squad car or at Police station, she had her Um huh moment and realized their "relationship" was not as she thought and couldn't handle it.
I believe his wife knew, women have a sixth sense and it is up to us to choose to listen to it.
I truly feel sorry for his sons. He didn't deserve to die that way. But he should have been home with his kids instead of playing like he was single.

 

[meloneyb21]

So he left her after they got pulled over. The officer said he told McNair he could go talk to her, but he choose not to.
Yes, they were both intoxicated, but I believe when you are drunk, it kind of shows your true self, because you have no inhibitions.
Then after he bailed her out, she went to buy the gun. Perhaps, while she was in the squad car or at Police station, she had her Um huh moment and realized their "relationship" was not as she thought and couldn't handle it.
I believe his wife knew, women have a sixth sense and it is up to us to choose to listen to it.
I truly feel sorry for his sons. He didn't deserve to die that way. But he should have been home with his kids instead of playing like he was single.

ITA.

What's so sick is the fact that if he really felt that way, like he didn't want to deal with her (I mean, for him not to want to talk to her and all), why the heck would he just keep on using her just for a "piece"? Just gross. Reports are saying that she killed him as he was falling asleep from being "intimate". Dang. I mean, I think it's clear that that girl was already thisclose to the deep end and everything that he was doing to her just set that girl off. NOBODY deserves to die like that but that was terrible to use that young girl. She was already troubled and needed help.

 

[Terry36]

The DUI arrest is on youtube if you haven't seen it yet. There are some interesting comments from the cop in both of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB3e3OZche4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_IscnNI-BA

O my goodness...look at your two puppies. they are too tiny and cute. what are they chiauhaus (sp)?

 

[Kurby]

wow - i dont know who that is but what a horrible situation for the wife to be in. well horrible for him too.

it kind of remind me of that actor/comedien phil hartman who's wife killed him then herself leaving their kids to deal with it

 

[horseshowmom]

Wow - I am sorry, but I have to disagree with this. Being unfaithful to the mother of your children while still married to her is not putting your children's interests above your own, which is the definition of good parenting. If your marriage is a wreck, than get a divorce before you sleep around. Is it about you or the kids? That is the definition of a good parent.

Agree.

Setting an example of how to be a liar and a cheat to his sons is about as bad a job parenting as one can do.

Do you think he told his sons he was taking the 20 year old waitress, who was so nice to them at Dave & Buster's, on a nice little vacation for two? Do you think he told them why they couldn't go along? Do you think they understand why their father had to have an apartment away from them instead of coming home at night?

Agree again. He actually met her at a restaurant that was popular with his family. How disgusting is that? To me, very.

Actually, they were in the process of divorcing, from what I understand. I don't know if that was due to him cheating, or other reasons.

As as already been mentioned, there has been no evidence of a divorce. However, he has succeeded in humiliating his wife and family. As another poster said, his wife must be dealing with the grief and anger at the same time.

I'm a father. And I expect my kids to be honest and trustworthy. Sneaking around with a girlfriend, whether I love their mother or not, is not setting the proper example for my kids. Its teaching them to be deceptive and its distorting their view of a healthy marriage.

Thanks for speaking up. You are, of course, 100% accurate in your response.

Agreed. He (and the killer) both were living lives of doing exactly whatever they wanted, regardless of the cost. Sadly, I'm sure he never dreamed the fun would end this way. Her final choice was more extreme, with permanent consequences for both of them.
McNair will be remembered somewhat for what he did in the NFL, locals will recall his charity work, but most people will first and foremost remember the circumstances of his death. Just the way it is.

Right, neither of them were too concerned about those boys. Their actions proved it.

So he left her after they got pulled over. The officer said he told McNair he could go talk to her, but he choose not to.
Yes, they were both intoxicated, but I believe when you are drunk, it kind of shows your true self, because you have no inhibitions.
Then after he bailed her out, she went to buy the gun. Perhaps, while she was in the squad car or at Police station, she had her Um huh moment and realized their "relationship" was not as she thought and couldn't handle it.

I mean, I think it's clear that that girl was already thisclose to the deep end and everything that he was doing to her just set that girl off. NOBODY deserves to die like that but that was terrible to use that young girl. She was already troubled and needed help.

I'm sorry that she had a tragic background, but I do think she thought she had hit the jackpot and was willing to take advantage of it (at the expense of his wife and children). Unfortunately for her, it didn't wind up the way she thought it would (and, yes, I think he also took advantage of her naivete).

The paper said that she tried to set the scene up so that she would wind up in his lap after she killed herself. Instead, she slipped from there to the floor. Very, very sad all the way around.

As a previous poster said, this is what people will remember.