Steve Irwin (crocodile hunter) dies..........

[Pooh93]

Thank you for continuing to post articles. I'm sure they are still reeling and will be for a long time. I still believe that Terri is doing the best she can and will protect them when needed. I have been watching the Crocodile Hunter Diaries and it's hard to believe that he is gone. I'm sure they feel the same way. I had ordered and have received the DVD of the memorial service, but haven't brought myself to watch it. I will be on vacation around the Christmas and will probably try to watch it them.

 

[lucas]

I have been watching the Crocodile Hunter Diaries and it's hard to believe that he is gone.

Me too. I watch it every day (when we are eating dinner) and every day I say I cannot believe it. I just don't understand it. He was so beautiful and so strong and full of life.

 

[Nutsy]

STEVE Irwin's son Bob will publicly celebrate his third birthday at Australia Zoo on Friday, despite concerns about how he is coping with his father's tragic death.

John Stainton, who was the Crocodile Hunter's manager, said today he had no second thoughts about the Australia Zoo promotion on Friday, when Bob's birthday will be celebrated with rides, prizes, cake and free children's entry.

Bob is expected to attend a cake cutting ceremony with his mother Terri and sister Bindi.
The Australia Zoo promotion comes after Terri recently raised concerns about how her children were coping with their father's death, saying she had taken them to see a psychologist.
Mr Irwin died in September when a stingray barb pierced his chest.

"He's a little boy and every little child deserves to have their birthday," Mr Stainton said.
"It's something Steve would have wanted him to celebrate. There's no reason why it wouldn't go ahead as planned.
"Every little child loves birthdays, presents and cakes.
"Traditionally since Bindi's birth they celebrate the children's birthdays with a big day at the zoo.
"Bob doesn't understand too much of the adult world and...life has to go on."

Concerns have also been raised over Bindi's workload since her father's death.
The eight-year-old has attended various award ceremonies, released a kids' fitness DVD last weekend and is getting ready to resume work on her own TV show, Bindi The Jungle Girl, for the Discovery Channel.
"Bindi is a strong little girl. Little kids have a fortitude to get over things very quickly," Mr Stainton said.
"She still has moments but she's just a little girl and still likes playing, dancing and laughing."
Mr Stainton said the Irwin family was taking "a day at a time" approach since the September tragedy.
"Everyone is moving forward. There are up days and down days as there are with anyone who has had a shock like that," he said.
"It's very much a day at a time. As we move further away then the healing process gets better, and they are getting stronger.
"It will be something that will take years (to heal).
"I would say it would take a long time for Terri to come to terms with it."

 

[PaulaSB12]

STEVE Irwin's son Bob will publicly celebrate his third birthday at Australia Zoo on Friday, despite concerns about how he is coping with his father's tragic death.

John Stainton, who was the Crocodile Hunter's manager, said today he had no second thoughts about the Australia Zoo promotion on Friday, when Bob's birthday will be celebrated with rides, prizes, cake and free children's entry.

Bob is expected to attend a cake cutting ceremony with his mother Terri and sister Bindi.
The Australia Zoo promotion comes after Terri recently raised concerns about how her children were coping with their father's death, saying she had taken them to see a psychologist.
Mr Irwin died in September when a stingray barb pierced his chest.

"He's a little boy and every little child deserves to have their birthday," Mr Stainton said.
"It's something Steve would have wanted him to celebrate. There's no reason why it wouldn't go ahead as planned.
"Every little child loves birthdays, presents and cakes.
"Traditionally since Bindi's birth they celebrate the children's birthdays with a big day at the zoo.
"Bob doesn't understand too much of the adult world and...life has to go on."

Concerns have also been raised over Bindi's workload since her father's death.
The eight-year-old has attended various award ceremonies, released a kids' fitness DVD last weekend and is getting ready to resume work on her own TV show, Bindi The Jungle Girl, for the Discovery Channel.
"Bindi is a strong little girl. Little kids have a fortitude to get over things very quickly," Mr Stainton said.
"She still has moments but she's just a little girl and still likes playing, dancing and laughing."
Mr Stainton said the Irwin family was taking "a day at a time" approach since the September tragedy.
"Everyone is moving forward. There are up days and down days as there are with anyone who has had a shock like that," he said.
"It's very much a day at a time. As we move further away then the healing process gets better, and they are getting stronger.
"It will be something that will take years (to heal).
"I would say it would take a long time for Terri to come to terms with it."

I am sorry but what they are doing with little Bindi is just WRONG she needs time to grieve for her father and to be allowed to be a little girl. IF when she is an adult she wants to follow in her father's footsteps that is ok but this she HAS to be the next Steve Irwin is more likely to make her go completely off the rails. If they make such a paragon of their father they may grow up feeling that nothing they can do will measure up and end up failing.

 

[Nutsy]

I am sorry but what they are doing with little Bindi is just WRONG she needs time to grieve for her father and to be allowed to be a little girl. IF when she is an adult she wants to follow in her father's footsteps that is ok but this she HAS to be the next Steve Irwin is more likely to make her go completely off the rails. If they make such a paragon of their father they may grow up feeling that nothing they can do will measure up and end up failing.

Yup, I agree and so do lots of others. I personally have had enough of hearing about what Bindi Irwin the daughter of the late Croc Hunter Steve Irwin is doing. Give it a rest... the zoo will go on and Terri will make sure of that.. we don't need to know everything little thing they do for pete's sake.

What Bindi does with her life is Bindi's business.. not the business of the whole world.

 

[sha_lyn]

Nutsy... If you are so tired of it, why do you keep looking for every article you can get your hands on and posting it here? I've been biting my tongue once again.

AmyJ posts an article. She gets one thank you. Nutsy rants about wanting the media to drop the stories/leave the family alone in response to AmyJ's post. Then Nutsy posts a bunch of articles. Everyone one jumps in on the Nutsy worship bandwagon

Amyjo thank you for that article
I think this portion or the article speaks well about just how Terri and everyone else in Bindi's life has her best interest at heart.

She is dressed in a fairy costume and is dancing and singing, much as any eight-year-old girl might. She’s also talking excitedly about a new project, a children’s animal column she will write from next month for The Weekly. She’s vivacious and full of enthusiasm. It’s hard to imagine that she is recovering from such a traumatic experience as losing her father. Yet not everybody, says Terri, is as insightful or mature as Bindi Irwin.

“Bindi is a remarkable, strong little girl,” says Terri. “There are times when she astounds me. I understand that if you don’t know Bindi or if you have a child who has stage fright, then it might seem odd that she can walk out in front of a huge crowd and talk so well, but she’s been in front of crowds since she was born. Her birth was filmed. She’s been comfortable with cameras and filming her whole life.

“Bindi has grown up in a zoo. She doesn’t go to the zoo once or twice a year like most kids. She goes every day of her life. That is extraordinary, but for Bindi, that is also normal.

“If I was to suddenly put her in a house in suburbia where she had a little backyard and a goldfish as a pet, that would be hard for her. That would be kind of weird and scary. But this is absolutely the norm for her and she loves it.

“There is nothing abnormal about her life. The Tooth Fairy brings her money for her teeth when they fall out. We have Christmas like everybody else. She goes to school here in the Zoo. We have a teacher, Miss Emma, who goes everywhere with us. Bindi likes Britney Spears and she loves the pop star Pink.”

Terri says that filming her TV series, Bindi the Jungle Girl, for the Discovery Channel is important for Bindi. She believes that by completing the series, which is being produced by long-time family friend, John Stainton, she will be delivering her father’s conservation message.

“Bindi feels that very deeply,” says Terri. “Last night, she came to me with a drink holder from the Zoo’s shop. It was covered in fake fur. She said she didn’t think we should sell it because it gave the message that fur was okay, even if it was fake. And it’s not okay. She didn’t think Steve would like it. Bindi had a meeting with the director of merchandising this morning and now it’s off the shelves.”

Since Steve’s memorial service, Terri has concentrated on Bindi and Bob’s welfare, even engaging a psychologist to assess their emotional state. Bindi was devastated by the loss of her father, as was Bob. Yet Bindi managed to deal with that catastrophic event in a way that amazed even her mother.

“I don’t pretend to have all the answers,” says Terri. “I met with a psychologist and that’s been a tremendous help for me. I asked him if everything was okay because Bindi has been so happy. And he said, ‘Why? Are you worried? That’s what you are shooting for. That’s what you want. You want a well-adjusted child who can handle a tragedy and see that life has to go on.’

“With Bindi, when she has her sad moments and misses Steve and gets upset, we put on some of the hours and hours of vision that we have of him. We put on a daddy show. We talk about him. We talk about him in the present tense. I ask, what would Daddy say about that? And then we laugh because that’s what Steve would do.

“And that lets me have the ability and the maturity to let her be happy. Why would I want her to sit on the floor and cry all day? There are things I have to make her do. I have to make her go to school. She would rather film all day, but she has to go to school.

“Then her reward is like today, every little girl’s dream. You show up here with a bunch of fairy princess dresses, someone is taking her picture and telling her she’s pretty. That’s pretty cool for an eight-year-old. She loves it and I think that’s wonderful.”

Terri says that part of the explanation of how Bindi has been able to deal with Steve’s death springs from her life at the Zoo, where she has been exposed to the cycle of life and death.

“I really wrestled with this for a while,” admits Terri, “about whether to allow Bindi to be a part of life’s cycle here at the Zoo. You can imagine that with 1000 animals, things are being born and dying all the time. We have a wildlife hospital right here. Little animals come in and they don’t always make it.

“Bindi saw that and developed a healthy understanding that life is one part of what its’ all about. And then you die and you go on to the next part. She does have an understanding of it and that has helped, as has our faith in God. That’s something every individual varies on, but it’s been nice to have that because it allows us to believe that we will all be together again one day.

“And we believe that Daddy is watching over Bindi and Robert, and that we’re going to make him proud of us, all of us.”

 

[lucas]

Wow...

I didn't officially thank AmyJ but I believe I posted a after she posted the article. So, thank you AmyJ for posting the article.

And thanks to Nutsy for all the posts. Since you live close to the zoo, you see a lot more articles/pics than I ever would get to see if you didn't post them.

Again, thanks to everybody for the posts. Keep em comin!

 

[AmyJ of Ca]

Wow...

I didn't officially thank AmyJ but I believe I posted a after she posted the article. So, thank you AmyJ for posting the article.

And thanks to Nutsy for all the posts. Since you live close to the zoo, you see a lot more articles/pics than I ever would get to see if you didn't post them.

Again, thanks to everybody for the posts. Keep em comin!

No thanks needed. It still breaks my heart for Terri and her children everytime I think about it, maybe because she is around my age and I, also, have young children. I may find articles for my own personal reading but don't usually post things like this here because it is still very close to the surface for some and they don't want to see it. I think it safe to say that all of us are in mourning for Steve and his family and I would never question Terri's reason for doing what she does. She know her kids best and most of this stuff was probably set up while Steve was alive and was probably his wish that Bindi does what she is doing. Amy

 

[Nutsy]

Nutsy... If you are so tired of it, why do you keep looking for every article you can get your hands on and posting it here? I've been biting my tongue once again.

AmyJ posts an article. She gets one thank you. Nutsy rants about wanting the media to drop the stories/leave the family alone in response to AmyJ's post. Then Nutsy posts a bunch of articles. Everyone one jumps in on the Nutsy worship bandwagon

Amyjo thank you for that article
I think this portion or the article speaks well about just how Terri and everyone else in Bindi's life has her best interest at heart.

Excuse me, but I don't look for every article I can get my hands on and post it.

You may notice that I have not updated the thread until this week. I noticed it had been updated, so I popped over to have a read.

I have no intention of getting into any further arguements with you. You've been awfully rude on more than one occasion,.

Maybe you should read what I said I was sick of.

It was nothing about Steve or Terri. It was how there is so much about Bindi and all the stuff that she has been doing since they lost Steve. It's like Bindi is the new Steve Irwin.

But, you go right ahead and hate me all you like.. I dont' know you from a bar of soap and nor do you know me. So, you go right ahead and continue to throw mud at me.. hope you get a big kick out it. Cos it sure doesn't bother me what you do.

Also, when I do post anything on here, it is for the benefit of those who genuinely appreciate it. Not for those who are so quick to slam someone.

I do not do it for some worship bandwagon as you so nicely put it. I live 40 mins from Australia Zoo and we do get a lot of stuff here that you would not get over there. There are people who appreciate any little bit of news about the Iriwns. Yes, we here are tired of the Bindi stories. She is afterall an 8yr old girl. There is quite a lot of concern that all the things she has taken on in the last couple of months is going to burn her out, but I guess you wouldn't want to know about any of that.

 

[hornedfrog]

Websites can track the number of hits that they get. Newspapers know how many copies are sold. Same with magazines or any other news source. So each time anyone clicks on an article online or purchases a periodical about Bindi or the Irwins or anything else they profess to find bothersome/irritating/tragic etc, they are feeding the beast. These articles are created and distributed because they are what people want to read. News sources are a business and they must draw in readership.

So if you (universal you, I am not addressing any particular individual) are tired of seeing articles about any topic, do something about it and be part of the solution...ignore links to articles. Don't buy magazines, newspapers or books that contain articles that you disapprove of. Don't raise peoples' interest on the subject by posting about the topic on public forums (which could lead to people searching for these articles and creating more hits).

That's all I'm saying...

 

[holycow]

Holysmokes people. We all get the emails if you don't want to read the articles then don't but don't be so rude to Nutsy who takes the time to post what is going on in her neck of the woods.


I appreciate the info.


Holycow

 

[lucas]

I also appreciate the info.

 

[Nutsy]

Those who wish to throw mud.. I did not bit.. about Bindi ok.. What I was saying was that I fell the media coverage on her and all she has done since she lost her Dad has gotten too much.


Thank God my daughter finally has a role model who isn't a princess or a prostitute!" This was the sentiment expressed to me this week in a playground conversation about Bindi Irwin.
I keep changing my mind about Bindi. Is she being exploited? Is she under too much pressure? Should she be out in public so soon? Could she be an extraordinary talent? Is she coping with the attention? Wise beyond her years or precocious? Has she had too much media training? Is she a performing seal? Why can't she just live the life of a normal eight-year-old?

And I'm not the only one. Barbecues are stopping around the country as we all move predictably through the Steve Irwin news cycle from shock to sadness to *****ing. *****ing about Bindi.

"A bit too much Bindi at the moment for me," says one critic. "Why does she look so happy all the time? Is she on Zoloft or something? There's plenty of time to get all her messages across, shouldn't she be mourning the loss of her father instead of being on TV? And who's that manager with the scary hair? Careful Bindi, it could all backfire."

"I think she seems like a lovely girl," concedes a father of three "but as a role model, I think Australians are merely trying to make up for the fact that we practically ignored her father. Now that Steve's gone, we're trying to make ourselves feel better by worshipping his daughter as a tween pin-up. She'll be spat out by the media machine in the usual 15 minutes."

But as the experts, the critics and the naysayers line up to express their outrage, can we take a moment to acknowledge some of the positives that are coming with Bindi's sudden propulsion into our lounge rooms?

At one friend's house, Bindi has opened up conversations about grief. "Why does she look so happy if her dad died?" came the question from my friend's seven-year-old son. We had a similar conversation at our place a few years ago when a child at my son's school lost a parent and many of the other kids didn't understand how their classmate could play and laugh and not be constantly crying.

My friend explained to her son that, even when a devastating thing happens, you can't be sad every minute of the day. And just because Bindi looks happy when we see her on TV, it doesn't mean she's not crying her little heart out in private.

Some adults might like to remember this when they're criticising Bindi's public appearances. Can we really look at her beaming face at the Kids' Choice awards and begrudge Bindi those few hours of fun in the context of the punishing grief she's living every day?

You can't be prescriptive about grief. Whatever gets you through. Let's leave Terri and Bindi and little Bob to muddle through the wreckage of their lives with our love and hope. As tempting as it is to look at our own children and make comparisons in that backseat parenting way we all do, it's irrelevant here. Bindi's life has always been calibrated on a whole different scale to any other child in the world. From birth. Who are we to say what is "normal life" for the Irwin family?

Personally, I'm stoked that the extent of Bindi's new fame means little girls now have a role model who doesn't dress like a trollop. As one mother of a six-year-old points out: "The only nod to fashion you ever see Bindi make is crimping, which is what girls her age should be doing with their hair. Appropriate."

Another mother of a 10-year-old daughter agrees: "Bindi has a positive message, she's fully clothed and she has a mother. Present and standing there with her. Not hiding in the wings spending her money."

And this from a friend with two little girls: "There's no one else between Barbie and Britney except for Dora the Explorer and she's a cartoon. I am personally clutching on to Bindi. She is full of life and good values just like her father. She has a passion and a cause and goodness and she's not a prissy princess. She's prepared to get dirty. I want my girls to grow up believing they can do anything and Bindi is the only junior celebrity role model I can think of who walks that talk."

I totally agree. So Bindi? If filling your beloved father's Blundstones isn't taking up enough of your time, can I please make one more request? Please can you save all the little girls in the world who want to be Paris and Britney and Nicole Ritchie and the Olsen twins? All of them. Show these misguided little girls how it can be cool to chase animals instead of boys and how it's important to take care of the environment. And that khaki is the new midriff.

 

[PaulaSB12]

Little Bindi has a tv show, a weekly section in a paper, excercise dvd and attends award shows, she is EIGHT years old if this carrys on if WE expect her to be the next Steve Irwin she could feel that nothing she can do as an adult is good enough and go right off the rails. I really do think that she needs to be pulled out of the limelight allowed to grow and mellow and decide for herself what her lifes ambitions are.

 

[karenbaco]

Thanks Nutsy......
I really do appreciate the info. Keep it coming....

My only comment is that although I do respect how some of you feel, we do not know what goes on behind closed doors with that family. This is not child abuse like some of you may think. I'm sure that they are doing what ever Bindi wants, as said in an interview. John said "Bindi's in charge", what she wants is what we do. We don't know them personally so why judge and make opinions on something we know nothing about. Please don't be so judgemental. I'm siked that we will have someone (Bindi) to carry on Steve's work, cuz frankly I find all the other "wannabe's" boring. Oh and another thing...... although its sooooo public, its really none of our business.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks

 

[PaulaSB12]

Thanks Nutsy......
I really do appreciate the info. Keep it coming....

My only comment is that although I do respect how some of you feel, we do not know what goes on behind closed doors with that family. This is not child abuse like some of you may think. I'm sure that they are doing what ever Bindi wants, as said in an interview. John said "Bindi's in charge", what she wants is what we do. We don't know them personally so why judge and make opinions on something we know nothing about. Please don't be so judgemental. I'm siked that we will have someone (Bindi) to carry on Steve's work, cuz frankly I find all the other "wannabe's" boring. Oh and another thing...... although its sooooo public, its really none of our business.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks

If you are siked about someone doing his job why can't his widow do this, and let their daughter grow up and decide when she is an adult what to do?

 

[laurie31]

Bindi has been doing TV shows and performances since birth. Making her stop now would be akin to me pulling my kids out of school and making them quit music and sports, if something (heaven forbid) were to happen to my DH. It's important for children to maintain their normal activities as they work through grief. I was actually worried that they WOULD make her stop everything, and imagine how lost and confused that would make her feel.

She's already lost her dad, imagine how disorienting it would be for her to suddenly stop doing what she's been doing all her lilfe.

Terri has taken the children to a psychologist; I'm sure if a professional who has personally evaluated Bindi recommended that her activities be curtailed, that it would happen. Otherwise, let her have the life she's always known, what is normal for her.

 

[karenbaco]

If you are siked about someone doing his job why can't his widow do this, and let their daughter grow up and decide when she is an adult what to do?

Terri will be taking on the reigns just as much I'm sure but we also have to remember she is still taking care of little Bob too. It would be too traumatic for her to put herself in full force as the Crocodile Huntress, the kids have already lost their Dad. Besides, all these things that Bindi is doing were in the works before Steve even died, why wouldn't she continue to do them? Its not like there are new things sprung on to her. Steve would want it no other way!!! Thats the bottom line. Plus.....the only reason we even hear about all this stuff is because of Steve's death. Seriously how many of you even heard of the show "Bindi the Jungle girl" in the works before Steve's death?? There wasn't much news of her at all until now. Whats the big deal?? Hell, there wasn't even a thread about the Crocodile Hunter until now so there you go.
Poor Terri.....they had to deal with all the discrimination with the whole Bob and Steve ordeal with him holding Little Bob over the Crocodile. Then she dealt with Steve's death and now this.......I wish the media would stop criticizing, its noone's business what they choose to do as a family. This is such a judgemental world, sad!

 

[Nutsy]

Ok, I did post that bit of info to start an all out argurment.


But.. from what little I know and have heard.. Terri is not going to be taking over from where Steve left off. That it seems is Bindi's job. Regardless of her age only being 8 she is the next Croc Hunter. Terri will keep the business side of things going.. but everything else to do with animals and filming will fall mainly on Bindi's shoulders.

The concern amongst a lot of people is the pressure on that little girl.. Regardless of whether she says she "wants" to do this or not and regardless of the fact that she has been in front of the cameras since she was born. The fact still is the same.. she is only 8.. a mature 8 yes... but 8 just the same. Concerns are that all this that she is doing (yes some of it was in the wings before they lost Steve).. but think about it.. how uncanny is it, all these things are coming out within a few months of losing Steve. Not over a period of say 12 or more months.

In some ways, it's like.. they are pushing these things through so the public have a new figurehead so to speak. What bothers me in a way is that this little girl is known as The daughter of the late Croc Hunter" that tag is quite often applied to her and that worries me as she is entitled to her own identity.

That is a little personal as I've been there.. being known as someones daughter.. not for yourself.

I hope she doesn't get swallowed up in all this that's all.

 

[PaulaSB12]

Ok, I did post that bit of info to start an all out argurment.


But.. from what little I know and have heard.. Terri is not going to be taking over from where Steve left off. That it seems is Bindi's job. Regardless of her age only being 8 she is the next Croc Hunter. Terri will keep the business side of things going.. but everything else to do with animals and filming will fall mainly on Bindi's shoulders.

The concern amongst a lot of people is the pressure on that little girl.. Regardless of whether she says she "wants" to do this or not and regardless of the fact that she has been in front of the cameras since she was born. The fact still is the same.. she is only 8.. a mature 8 yes... but 8 just the same. Concerns are that all this that she is doing (yes some of it was in the wings before they lost Steve).. but think about it.. how uncanny is it, all these things are coming out within a few months of losing Steve. Not over a period of say 12 or more months.

In some ways, it's like.. they are pushing these things through so the public have a new figurehead so to speak. What bothers me in a way is that this little girl is known as The daughter of the late Croc Hunter" that tag is quite often applied to her and that worries me as she is entitled to her own identity.

That is a little personal as I've been there.. being known as someones daughter.. not for yourself.

I hope she doesn't get swallowed up in all this that's all.

I totally agree, the last poster said that it would be too truamatic for Terri to become the next crocodille hunter, but an 8 year old child can? Don't make her the next anything let her develop into the first Bindi in what ever field she wants to, if she feels that she has to be what her father was then she could feel that nothing she does has any merit, how many children who seem to do well in the public eye have gone of the rails, how about Drew Barrymore she was a heroin addict by the age of 12, you only have one childhood let her enjoy it.