Spring breakers...Florida beaches

Pretty sure Clearwater was/is open. I think I saw pics of huge crowds there.

And I might have checked to see if hotel prices had plummeted yet. :-X
I know a guy who talked to a friend who knows a person who used to be her cousin who had seen a story on TV about some people who went to the beach with horrific consequences.

Not sure if it was news, or a sitcom, or sci fi -- but there you have it!
 
Most hospitals at any given point in time are operating at about 65% to 70% capacity in terms of non-overhead capacity. Now imagine adding all the additional Covid-19 patients to this when there’s an outbreak cluster.


Yesterday’s comment by the president continues to show how fragmented the healthcare system is in the US. When asked about ventilators, Trump responded saying to all the state governors that they should each try and get it on their own as much as they can. Well, that’s what hospitals have been doing since the Stone Age. This kind of stuff is coordinated and accelerated from the top in places like South Korea.
You do realize that the majority of the people are out of state spring breakers, right? I live here, I had a beach trip planned, and I cancelled. The people who live here want these people to go home and no one visit for at least a couple weeks (or longer). The longer they keep coming, the longer we have to stay home and not work.
You all have no problem standing shoulder to shoulder at Costco to get toilet paper. Chill out.

No I won’t “chill out”. People are dying by the thousands around the world and all you can contribute is “chill out”.
 

You know why places are open? Because they have bills and they realize that it’s going to be really, really rough.

By the end of the year, we will have record unemployment, people who can’t pay their heat, definitely can’t afford Christmas gifts, can’t afford to travel, 401k’s gone, working extra years (some until the day they die)...but hey, this is what some of you wanted.

What we are doing now will directly or indirectly hurt every person on Earth. We’ve definitely made the virus jealous because the damage we’ve done to ourselves is no match.

First of all, nobody wanted this. So stop with the accusatory tone. Secondly, the economy is going to be affected whether we shut down right now or not. And it would probably be affected worse if we hadn't prepared for it. The fact is this disease would hurt every person on earth regardless of what we do.

And I will calmly say...there are severe consequences for wanting the world to shutdown. You don’t get to pick and choose.
And yet that is exactly what you are advocating doing. Picking and choosing. You're just picking and choosing the consequences for not shutting down which are as severe if not more. We can give our unemployed neighbors food, maybe pick up a bill or two for them. We cannot give them a ventilator we don't have available, nor bring them back if they die as a consequence.
 
Too many invincible young people were unwilling to cancel their spring breaks.

I probably would have been one of them if this had happened 35+ years ago.
 
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You all have no problem standing shoulder to shoulder at Costco to get toilet paper. Chill out.
Shopping for necessities isn't exactly the same thing as girls gone wild now is it?
They got on the planes with them or drove them down or paid for them to go. They were busy being their kids FRIEND instead of being a PARENT. Frankly I am seriously worried about the future of this country after seeing these images. Seriously these self absorbed, selfish, trashy MORONS are the future of our country! YIKES! And as for Florida- don't come crying to the rest of us for more health care providers, hospital beds or ventilators. NO VENTILATORS FOR YOU!
The kids are alright. The vast majority of them took it seriously and didn't go do that stuff. I'd say fewer of them did it than the Boomers would have at that age. It's just that girls gone wild gets a bit more attention than Johnny went home and is spending the break with his family.
 
Extremely annoying. And, wrong. Where the hell are the parents of these kids?????!?!
I have asked the same thing and was told college kids are adults; they can do what they want, and it's extremely insulting to tell parents to man up, pull the parent card and cut the purse strings if necessary. Insulting or not, I'm a college parent, and I have/will man up, pull the parent card and cut the purse strings if necessary. On my DD's university parents' FB page, it's pretty much split down the middle between parents who will and parents who won't.
 
I have asked the same thing and was told college kids are adults; they can do what they want, and it's extremely insulting to tell parents to man up, pull the parent card and cut the purse strings if necessary. Insulting or not, I'm a college parent, and I have/will man up, pull the parent card and cut the purse strings if necessary. On my DD's university parents' FB page, it's pretty much split down the middle between parents who will and parents who won't.
Now don't go misrepresenting the conversation that was had on the other thread :)

You know that's not how it went. You're free to disagree with poster's responses to you but don't misrepresent the dialogue
 
Spoke with a coworker today- her friend’s son was on vaca at Panama Beach- kid just returned home where he’s living with parents (college closed)- lo & behold a kid in his traveling group has COVID-19. That whole group likely brought it back to their home state and family members...
My sister-in-law is in Panama City Beach. I've told my husband a day or two ago, to tell her she needs to stay home not going out, when she gets back (which I believe they are due to leave sooner rather than later) and be away from everyone else including her mom and her dad. It's the best advice that I can personally do at this point.
 
If all cities closed the public beaches, and the cities where you can drive on the beach closed the access points ... we'd see a greatly reduced number of these cluster situations. I see no issue with a family or small group out on a quiet beach ................ 50 feet from the next group .......... but these masses having access to and filling the beaches is just poor execution on the cities parts.
 
Now don't go misrepresenting the conversation that was had on the other thread :)

You know that's not how it went. You're free to disagree with poster's responses to you but don't misrepresent the dialogue
That's exactly how it went. ETA: I'm referring to comments made by other posters too.

We will have to agree to disagree both on how it went and on the sentiment itself.
 
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Clearwater just chose to close for 2 weeks; the other Pinellas beaches are not. https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/03/18/clearwater-beach-to-close-to-the-public/
(The argument is that tourists are already there, and if they drive them off the beaches where there is a fair amount of space -- Clearwater being the exception -- that they will just congregate elsewhere. Not sure it's valid, but at least they do state a reason.)

I spend a lot of time on Pinellas beaches. Clearwater is by far the one with the most crowded conditions and nearby "other" things to do; most of them are a lot more primitive and almost never actually get crowded the way that beaches in the Northeast and around Miami do. There have been plenty of occasions in places like Treasure when, even on a summer weekend, I've been there when the distance between umbrellas was at least about 60 feet, and often way more. I'm not saying it's harmless, but in some places/situations, it is perhaps not quite as catastrophically irresponsible as some folks have been envisioning.
 
That's exactly how it went.

We will have to agree to disagree both on how it went and on the sentiment itself.
I said you were misrepresenting the dialogue and you were because we both know that's not how it went down. You're missing so much information in there assumedly because you want to apply the situation to this one.

You're missing the information regarding
~parents and their adult children's relationships
~discussion on mutual respect as in parents weren't going to go demanding to the university or student that they come home while school was in session
~discussion on how the university had zero consideration for anyone those students had at home when they "implored" such as high risk groups which as was pointed out many probably had in their households
~how posters felt it was an overreach to go to off campus landlords to send those students to their parents home because appearantly where they were living wasn't home to them I guess
~discussion over where people's homes were which were not with their parents
~and several other things.

So yes you misrepresented the conversation that played out with multiple posters just because it suited the idea here on this thread of "where are the parents".

You don't need to really reply to me that's ok we really don't need to continue to go back and forth so no worries on that :) but at least I can provide some context to your comment :)
 
Just let it happen. If they wanna be that stupid, natural selection will get them in the end.

Actually no it won't. This age group worldwide is only dying the same rate as seasonal flu. Hide the old people and let the kids party. :)
 


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