And the last 2 natural gas power plants in CA cost around $1.2 billion to construct. A lot of money to decommission the two plants so soon after it was completed only a few short years ago.
An article from Toronto news in January had the following quote: "Many Canadians use gas stoves for cooking" so it's probably a lot like here in the U.S. where some places have them more than others. Although I think it might be odd for someone here to say they've never seen a gas stove
I don't live anywhere near Toronto.
I didn't say you did. If it was only applicable to Toronto I assume they would have just said "Many Torontonians" but they said "Canadians". I only mentioned Toronto to let you know it was a source from Canada not a source from the U.S. talking about Canadians. The context of the article was discussing what ramifications it would have for Canadians if the U.S.'s governmental agency actually banned gas stoves as a whole.
Not to mention the reason those power plants were built. Does "ENRON" ring any bells? Back then we had power plants at Moss Landing, Morro Bay, Diablo Canyon and San Onofre in CA. Of those only Diablo Canyon is still online, and only because they finally realized how badly it was needed. The only thing that surprises me during the summer rolling blackouts is how short everyone's memory seems to be. But hey, it must be global warming, it couldn't possibly be anything else, right?
Yeah my husband and I talked about the blackouts and the natural gas stuff with CA in prior conversation. He worked in 2019 on the twin power plants located in southern CA that to his knowledge were the last two natural gas power plants CA gave permits to and in an oddly sentimental way got to go back to his ole stomping ground last year for a project for his new company so I got another picture of the main power plant he was on lol.
We (the company I work for) build 300+ houses a year. 2/3 of them have gas stoves/cooktops. It's considered far more upscale than electric, especially for anybody that considers themselves a serious cook. And to the larger topic, 100% of the furnaces and hot water tanks in single-family homes here are powered by natural gas. It costs exponentially less than electricity, which is actually mostly generated by natural-gas powered plants as well.
I'm really not trying to pile on TVGUY, but when you really look at what those in power in CA are trying to get us to do, it really doesn't make any sense. I drive a PIH and I have to charge the thing, on a 220v line, for 4-5 hours for my daily commute RT. That's like running an electric clothes dryer for 4-5 hours, every day - all of us, all of our cars. Speaking of, no natural gas is no natural gas - we will all need to covert to electric clothes dryers too - in addition to all electric cooking ranges. That's a massive addition to our electricity demand and we are already experiencing rolling blackouts in the summer. How many solar farms will we need to add to make that happen? No idea, but it doesn't take a genius to see that we are nowhere close and won't be for a very long time.
I’ve never cooked with gas.
It's lovely. Instant on, instant off and easier to moderate the temperature than electric. I don't have one (no gas hook-up in my home) but I have in the past and I learned to cook on one. The ceramic top stove I have now takes a long time to get up to heat and what seems like forever to cool down. You've got to completely remove the pot to stop cooking.
Here in Europe I have only seen one gas stove ever in a home ( and I have been in many in my lifetime) so I can see in some markets somebody never seeing a gas stovetop in a home.. Here is all about glass ceramic either electric or induction. I had a gas stove in Chicago and I hated cleaning the stove stop.. Glass ceramic is so much easier. Here if you go look at appliances you wont see gas as these are special order.. I think Ikea has some for some odd reason.
This is where the US is WAAAAAY far behind and it should be a priority. If I lived in TX ( grid issues) or FL ( storm issues) I would want solar so I am not dependent on any outside energy. All new homes in Germany have some form of solar. The simplist is a panel that heats the boiler. In summer you dont have to turn gas/oil on for hot water. Most brand new homes have PV storage systems. It's an investment.. about 20-30 grand.. but it also stores your energy. So with the right systems you are no longer paying for electricity etc... and can charge your cars for "free" Just my opinion but if you build a home and are looking at the future it might be worth investing in one of these. I know many who produce so much energy they cant use themselves between home and cars ( some PV systems put energy in the grid and you get paid) .. but the storage systems have gotten better. We have an older home and even bought smaller panels that are on our balcony railings to reduce our KW use we pay from the grid.
Solar is still quite expensive, it's gone down in costs over the years but that cost is a major barrier for people. Weather can still be an issue. I think there is also an issue with transfer in cases of selling the home in terms of utilities or at least that's what someone recently mentioned in our social networking site for our neighborhood. Storage can still be a concern.
I find it easier to clean our gas than when I've had electric.
