Speaking of Rachael Ray/HORRIBLE TIPPER

[A Mickeyfan]

Are you kidding? There's an unlimited supply!

How about Paul McCartney. Was it insensitive for him to get married on John Lennon's birthday? Discuss.

can also look at it as a tribute to Lennon... not insensitive.. opps.. we are off topic.. wonder if he tips well

 

[nsmith]

I'm married 35 years and 10% was never the norm in our locale.

agree, my whole life it was 15% and for years now Ihave been tipping @20%

 

[OrangeCountyCommuter]

Google isn't whacky or crazy it is actually a very useful tool for finding a range of things that happen to be posted somewhere out on the internet. Some information may be about dumb crap like aliens but it is also a good resource for a wealth of REAL information.

As for Rachael tipping 10% she never did tip 10%. Not on her $40 a day show. I never saw her tip 10% even one time.

And as for posting this on a budget board it is a post about a show that is all about a DAILY BUDGET for eating. I wasn't aware there were Budget board DIS police patrolling the threads to make sure they were budget board worthy.

This had no budget point... Sorry but this thread was started to "trash" a celebrity Go back and read that post. How did it impact your buget? Your trip to Disney etc?? It didn't Just an excuse to "stir things up"

The show is YEARS old and you just now got around to complaining? A lot of her "finds" are already out of business so if you are using THAT to budget... you have more issues! (Old pricing, out of business resturants.. well I guess if you can't find the place to eat it could be a "money saving tip" )

Really, this has nothing to do with "buget"

(And for those of you REALLY into this tipping thread.. go to the Resturants board... a HUGE tipping thread exits there)

But since others on here are looking for another "celbrity" to "trash" Don't forget dear old Sandra and her money saving meals on Food Network. Always an easy mark!

 

[mkel34]

If service was really bad.. you might have gone lower because you still left 15%. =) I am sure that crappy server appreciates it.

$5 tip on $35 isn't 15%, thats probably around 7%...

 

[Palmtree searcher]

Everyone has good points and bad. She made a huge donation to a facility I work with. No fanfare, no tax deduction. Just a nice deed.

 

[elgerber]

$5 tip on $35 isn't 15%, thats probably around 7%...

$35 x 7% is $2.45. $5 is 14.29% of $35.

 

[Judique]

$5 tip on $35 isn't 15%, thats probably around 7%...

More bad Math <g> 15 % of $35 is $5.25 so yes a little less than 15%, but not 7%.

 

[bgirldeb]

$5 tip on $35 isn't 15%, thats probably around 7%...

I'm coming up with 14% 15% is 5.25, so that's right.


I've always thought that 15 was the norm and tip 20 and above for good service.

 

[Lucille1963]

Just popping in to mention why restaurants use 18% included gratuity. They calculate the 18% tip based on the PRE TAX price, as opposed to majority of people calculating tip based on the total. It works out to be about the same.

As many have said before, every restaurant is different, but where I worked for years a very Disney type touristy place. One fun sharing tip example from where I worked was what I had to "tip out" the bar staff and busboys. They got 12% of the liquor sales (no matter what was actually tipped) combine this with people lingering over those alcoholic drinks. I did my darndest to encourage guests to order milk shakes.

 

[disney1990]

I love the DIS boards. People on here complaining about people not tipping 15% and people on the Cruise board complaining about gratuities being automatically added because why should they have somebody tell them how much they should "have" to tip or if they should tip at all.

I love the DIS boards.

And how the heck did Paul McCartney's wedding get in on this discussion? I consider him getting married on John's birthday an honor. Plus, remember, it is also John's son's (Sean) birthday.

 

[Palmtree searcher]

I love the DIS boards. People on here complaining about people not tipping 15% and people on the Cruise board complaining about gratuities being automatically added because why should they have somebody tell them how much they should "have" to tip or if they should tip at all.

I love the DIS boards.

And how the heck did Paul McCartney's wedding get in on this discussion? I consider him getting married on John's birthday an honor. Plus, remember, it is also John's son's (Sean) birthday.

So people have differing opinions? Imagine that?!

 

[delmar411]

I am from SC and here....10% is all your gonna get!! 15% at a really nice place-if you have 6 or more...and that's IF you're any good. The Disney's typical 18% tip is UNHEARD OF around here. That's a meal by itself. My husband has a VERRRRY hard time with this when we are at Dis. I have to say- we never leave 18%. The food is so outrageously expensive, we make it to Disney by the skin of our teeth! There really should be way to help out those families that really want to go, and can't because it's so expensive. The average person these days can't do it without getting a LOAN or just breaking the bank. The food always costs us more than the room or anything. And the food is not the greatest I've ever had and we've never had service that was even worth 15%...just "here's your dinner, would you like more tea and have a good night............" Nothing really outstanding. But...we don't go to Dis for the food we go for the FUN
Up north, people make a whole lot more money and Disney seems to think we all do. I LOVE YOU DISNEY, but the tipping fee is rediculous. I used to wait tables and I know it's alot of work (we did not even get 10%- "$1 per person" was the norm. And alot of folks here still think it! It was tuff... especially on busy nights with rude, hungry, tired people. But 18%... is just too much. When we are treated good, we tip accordingly. But to tell me I HAVE to leave 18%....nope. I would have flipped if anyone EVER gave me 18%!! NOBODY gets it in our town!

I think you don't get out to very many restaurants. And who cares what the so-called norm is at home??? You are traveling away from home, you tip the correct amount for the place you are going. And if you can't afford that TS meal at Disney because of the tip then eat CS. Disney in no way shape or form has a gun to your head telling you to eat at some overpriced buffet.

I really hate when people justify poor behavior towards others with some completely off the wall comparison. That server in Orlando can't tell their landlord that they are only going to pay some random place in SC rental rates?!?!? You pay for where you are. Can't afford the tip , then you can't afford the meal.



And to those 2 posters that claim that the tip isn't mandatory....well that just speaks to your moral character. Those who don't tip (not saying those posters don't tip) are actually stealing from that server. They are required to pay tip out based off sales...someone doesn't tip then that server just paid to serve you. That is unacceptable. And any American understands our restaurant setup perfectly. Working the system to hurt someone you deem beneath you....well I can't say such words on the Dis so I'll refrain...

 

[chimo2u]

OmG! This irks me so much! Who are you to tell others what is expected, or that they only deserve CS if they don't tip some "magical" number? The last time I looked GRATUITY meant gift and was up to the discretion of the giver....be it Disney or Elsewhere, I will choose what I feel is appropriate, not you, not social peer pressure to conform to some "societal norm" , not some piece of paper with suggested amounts.....but ME, I will choose what to leave based on my experience , be it 10, 15, 18, or 20%, or 0%!!! I refuse to be guilted into any pre- conceived amount when a tip is meant as a thank you from the customer for service given....tips are not mandatory, because if they where, the police would be after me for leaving without paying it....however if I chose to not leave a tip for substandard service, then no one will be chasing me down to pay the remainder.....on the other hand, I have no problem tipping nicely for good service, but I will be the one to choose what I wish to leave.

 

[kaytieeldr]

...however if I chose to not leave a tip for substandard service...

And this is a big part of the reason all tipping discussion is generally restricted to a single thread on the Restaurants Board, and why personal tipping habits are off limits

We don't care. Do what you want. If you're willing to sit back and suffer through an entire meal of substandard service so you can justify a below average, minimal, minuscule, or non-existent gratuity - more power to you!

On the other hand, you could be proactive. Seek out your server or a manager. Get any problems resolved when they first appear. It's entirely up to you. It's your time, money, dining experience...

 

[Palmtree searcher]

And this is a big part of the reason all tipping discussion is generally restricted to a single thread on the Restaurants Board, and why personal tipping habits are off limits

We don't care. Do what you want. If you're willing to sit back and suffer through an entire meal of substandard service so you can justify a below average, minimal, minuscule, or non-existent gratuity - more power to you!

On the other hand, you could be proactive. Seek out your server or a manager. Get any problems resolved when they first appear. It's entirely up to you. It's your time, money, dining experience...

I worked as a server in college, and I tip really well for good service. However I seldomly will go to a manager for bad service. frankly it is just too much negative in our dining experience. I will tell the server why the tip has been carved, though.

 

[Palmtree searcher]

OH, and I think it is ridiculous to call bad tipping a moral issue.

 

[disneyofcourse]

If I'm out on a road trip and stop in these small towns all I see is people leaving $1-3 as tips on a family meal. Even around here it seems pretty common to tip only a few dollars.



Then when I've tipped say 15-20% and the waitress asked me if I'm sure that its all just for a tip. And then comes back to ask if I wanted change back ... It kinda tells me difference places are used to different amounts of tipping. I tip what I feel the service is worth and I think most people do just that. If someone gives me terrible service they will get a terrible tip and a review and possibly I'll speak to a manager. If its fantastic service I've easily given 50% as a tip. Just do what you want and feel is fair and I don't think any percentage is wrong.

 

[mrodgers]

Then when I've tipped say 15-20% and the waitress asked me if I'm sure that its all just for a tip. And then comes back to ask if I wanted change back ...

I am never around for the waitress to ask me about change or a tip. Do you not pay for the meal and either write the tip on the receipt at the table and leave or when cash just leave the tip in cash on the table and leave?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

And to those 2 posters that claim that the tip isn't mandatory....well that just speaks to your moral character. Those who don't tip (not saying those posters don't tip) are actually stealing from that server. They are required to pay tip out based off sales...someone doesn't tip then that server just paid to serve you. That is unacceptable. And any American understands our restaurant setup perfectly. Working the system to hurt someone you deem beneath you....well I can't say such words on the Dis so I'll refrain...

They didn't say they didn't tip. They correctly stated that it isn't mandatory. In other words, no law or anything that obligates it. The only mandatory payment is for the food/beverage you have consumed.

It is STANDARD, of course. But it isn't "mandatory" by definition which is why the amount can vary per the customer's wishes. Any customer is free to tip for the service they have received at the amount of their choice.

The reason we have these discussions is that it is a variable non-mandated issue.

I have significantly reduced tips twice. My integrity is fully in tact, thank you! These were completely the issue of the server for their conduct and lack of proper service. If they question my integrity, they must first look to their own integrity and realize that it was they who caused themselves to have a reduced pay that day.

I don't go into any dining situation expecting to tip punitively. I fully expect a standard level of service for a baseline tip and will reward service that goes beyond that. We aim for between 15-20%. The percentage will be higher if the bill is much lower as the standard tip seems so little. When we use coupons or take advantage of discounts, we tip on what the amount would have been. We have been generous on special holidays (Mother's Day, Christmas Day--days we have eaten out) just because we feel like being generous and the server did an outstanding job.

But I don't have any issues that if a server did poorly--especially if they treated anyone in my party poorly...as has happened...I don't have any issues for not rewarding that behavior. I really don't care if they are having a bad day. And my morals are just fine, thank you!

I had one time where the server never came to my table. We did flag down the closest server. We were not in our section, but she apologized anyway and immediately began helping us. She notified the manager and they tried to figure out who our server was while still helping us. We ended up getting meals comped and it turned out our server was flustered with a larger group and she was new. My husband wanted to tip her and I was against it. He tipped her a little. And the bulk of the tip went to the server who went out of her way to help us. I just didn't feel it was appropriate to tip someone who didn't come to us until after we were almost done with our meal. And I didn't feel it was right to not tip the server who took us on with her already busy section.

Sometimes with children--we just want to eat and packing up and switching restaurants is more of a burden to us. So we will "suffer" through substandard service and they'll see a lower tip. But it won't come across as being jilted out of a tip. 10% of $70 is still above minimum wage without their $2+/hr. (Our standard time in a restaurant is about an hour.)

 

[wishesuponastar]

OmG! This irks me so much! Who are you to tell others what is expected, or that they only deserve CS if they don't tip some "magical" number? The last time I looked GRATUITY meant gift and was up to the discretion of the giver....be it Disney or Elsewhere, I will choose what I feel is appropriate, not you, not social peer pressure to conform to some "societal norm" , not some piece of paper with suggested amounts.....but ME, I will choose what to leave based on my experience , be it 10, 15, 18, or 20%, or 0%!!! I refuse to be guilted into any pre- conceived amount when a tip is meant as a thank you from the customer for service given....tips are not mandatory, because if they where, the police would be after me for leaving without paying it....however if I chose to not leave a tip for substandard service, then no one will be chasing me down to pay the remainder.....on the other hand, I have no problem tipping nicely for good service, but I will be the one to choose what I wish to leave.

Couldn't agree with you more