Something is Wrong with Voting in Ohio

[Island_Lauri]

Say it ain't so, IL.....there you go.....pointing backwards again....now doggone it. We are trying to talk about the present.

I believe the appropriate quote would be "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.":

 

[BuckNaked]

Maybe i worded it poorly.



I think more attention should be paid to the organized widespread issues - like the above post of Ohio voter disenfranchisement.

But certainly I think the individual voter fraud deserves attention. It seems to me that if we made it easy to obtain the necessary documentation and then required everyone to give the same ID, it would nearly solve the problem.

Got it, thanks!

I agree that there are systemic problems with voting in some areas, but I don't believe that it is as dire as some would portray it.

One problem, as mentioned above, is getting poll workers to work in some areas. I'm an election officer in my county this year, and as part of my application, I was asked if I would be willing to a) work outside of my precinct if asked, and/or b) be a representative for either party, if needed (there is no party registration in VA, but each of the two major parties must have an election officer representing their interests at every precinct.) I answered yes to both, so I have no idea where I'll be working on election day, and it really doesn't matter.

I do think that there should be a paper trail for each vote, and I also believe that there should be a strict requirement for ID, which should be free to those that don't drive or otherwise wouldn't have a requirement for a photo ID.

I personally don't see the problem with caging, so long as a provisional ballot is permitted and counted as per state law. If there is reason to believe that a person is not living in the place where they're registered to vote, then they shouldn't be permitted to vote there unless they can provide proof. My one exception to this would be in Presidential and other statewide elections, as the vote is a state-wide one, so precinct (except in Nebraska and Maine) wouldn't matter. Those voters should have the option of voting in the state-wide election on a separate ballot and it should be counted with all the other ballots on election night.

 

[yeartolate]

Got it, thanks!

I agree that there are systemic problems with voting in some areas, but I don't believe that it is as dire as some would portray it.

One problem, as mentioned above, is getting poll workers to work in some areas. I'm an election officer in my county this year, and as part of my application, I was asked if I would be willing to a) work outside of my precinct if asked, and/or b) be a representative for either party, if needed (there is no party registration in VA, but each of the two major parties must have an election officer representing their interests at every precinct.) I answered yes to both, so I have no idea where I'll be working on election day, and it really doesn't matter.

I do think that there should be a paper trail for each vote, and I also believe that there should be a strict requirement for ID, which should be free to those that don't drive or otherwise wouldn't have a requirement for a photo ID.

I personally don't see the problem with caging, so long as a provisional ballot is permitted and counted as per state law. If there is reason to believe that a person is not living in the place where they're registered to vote, then they shouldn't be permitted to vote there unless they can provide proof. My one exception to this would be in Presidential and other statewide elections, as the vote is a state-wide one, so precinct (except in Nebraska and Maine) wouldn't matter. Those voters should have the option of voting in the state-wide election on a separate ballot and it should be counted with all the other ballots on election night.

By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
The use of provisional ballots in the 2006 election by voters whose eligibility was questioned at the polls varied greatly among states, and more than half of them were cast in California and Ohio, a new government report shows.
Whether those backup ballots were ruled valid also varied widely, the report released Tuesday shows. Maine counted all of its provisional ballots, while Kentucky counted fewer than 7%. In 14 states, fewer than half were counted. In 11 other states, more than 80% of them were counted.

I would have no problem with the caging = if it was evenly applied. But it is used to target a certain group. And there is indeed an issue about whether your provisonal ballot will be counted.

 

[gmboy95]

This thread has officially left planet earth!!......What are you people talking about. i am starting to feel like Sarah Palin

 

[BuckNaked]

I would have no problem with the caging = if it was evenly applied. But it is used to target a certain group. And there is indeed an issue about whether your provisonal ballot will be counted.

Election laws are never going to be applied evenly across state lines, because we don't have national elections - we have 51 separate state elections. So long as each state actually follows its own laws, I don't see a problem, so if Kentucky only counts 7% and Maine counts 100%, I'm fine with that, so long as Kentucky and Maine followed their respective election laws.

 

[TLSnell1981]

i am starting to feel like Sarah Palin

Wow! That is very uplifting!

 

[yeartolate]

This thread has officially left planet earth!!......What are you people talking about. i am starting to feel like Sarah Palin

OP starts a thread about how easy it is to get registered to vote in Ohio. She fears (rightfully) that this may lead to voter fraud.

Other posts point to the widespread election fraud and voter disenfranchisement that is already going on in the same state.