Some interesting info on Copper Creek Villas

[thebigman65]

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...club-resort-celebrates-spirit-of-reinvention/

 

[WildernessMickey]

Thanks for sharing that. Now I know why the bartender at Geyser point put an iron spike on my bill to keep it from blowing away. And why the new pool is like a quarry. Makes sense now!

 

[thebigman65]

I guess the point is that the new DVC is not supposed to be like the old resort or DVC. They have different theming that ties into different era's of the Pacific North West. It's interesting to see the thought behind the process and actually to know that there was a lot of thought behind it and not just slapping things together.....

 

[DenLo]

I always enjoy the storyline Disney creates for places. But isn't this story just giving DVC the excuse to not add the imagineered look of a "National Park lodge" that is in Wilderness Lodge and BRV? I have been expecting the rooms to be more modern looking, but not the hallways of CCV. I hope I am wrong and there will still be some touches of lodge look in CCV villas and hallways and not just in the cabins and GVs.

 

[BillPA]

They will do what ever is the least cost. Just like all the other updated DVC resorts

 

[thebigman65]

I always enjoy the storyline Disney creates for places. But isn't this story just giving DVC the excuse to not add the imagineered look of a "National Park lodge" that is in Wilderness Lodge and BRV? I have been expecting the rooms to be more modern looking, but not the hallways of CCV. I hope I am wrong and there will still be some touches of lodge look in CCV villas and hallways and not just in the cabins and GVs.

Agreed....I think the hallways should be in keeping with the rest of the resort. I don't think Disney/DVD would make this up after the planning stages....I am sure that a presentation was involved and the decision makers bought into it....whether or not people like it or are happy with the theming is another story....but it does show some forethought that a lot of people seem to think is not there anymore....I personally will wait to make my decision for when we see the models during our trip in April

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I always enjoy the storyline Disney creates for places. But isn't this story just giving DVC the excuse to not add the imagineered look of a "National Park lodge" that is in Wilderness Lodge and BRV? I have been expecting the rooms to be more modern looking, but not the hallways of CCV. I hope I am wrong and there will still be some touches of lodge look in CCV villas and hallways and not just in the cabins and GVs.

It seems like just a story to explain why it isn't "lodgey" since CCV is literally within the "National Park Lodge".

The other odd part is that the rooms in the lodge - the already rustic area - were done in a very different theme than the GV's and Cabins which are more rustic. It's so strange that is doesn't all follow the same design scheme which would have fit better within the building and would be better for a timeshare IMO. Throwing modern into the "National Park Lodge" is just off and having a story to explain it doesn't make it right - it's still off.

 

[thebigman65]

It seems like just a story to explain why it isn't "lodgey" since CCV is literally within the "National Park Lodge".

The other odd part is that the rooms in the lodge - the already rustic area - were done in a very different theme than the GV's and Cabins which are more rustic. It's so strange that is doesn't all follow the same design scheme which would have fit better within the building and would be better for a timeshare IMO. Throwing modern into the "National Park Lodge" is just off and having a story to explain it doesn't make it right - it's still off.

"That spirit of reinvention and renewal is evident throughout the latest additions to Disney’s Wilderness Lodge, from railroad-depot-turned-waterfront-restaurant Geyser Point Bar & Grill (now open) to abandoned-quarry-turned-pool-area Boulder Ridge Cove (scheduled to open this summer). Copper Creek Villas themselves repurpose everything from salvaged steel to railroad spikes as part of the transformation and refinement of former hotel rooms – reimagined as Deluxe Studios, one-bedroom villas, two-bedroom villas and three-bedroom Grand Villas, while rustically elegant Cascade Cabins re-imagine vacated lakeshore homes said to have once housed the railway company’s supervisors, site managers and VIPs."

I think they explained the difference.....Again, IMO, I don't think they made up the story after the fact....it may not be everyone'c cup of tea....but the point is, it looks like they put thought into it....they didn't just have a meeting and say "oh who cares about the theming....lets just do it as cheap as possible"....

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

"That spirit of reinvention and renewal is evident throughout the latest additions to Disney’s Wilderness Lodge, from railroad-depot-turned-waterfront-restaurant Geyser Point Bar & Grill (now open) to abandoned-quarry-turned-pool-area Boulder Ridge Cove (scheduled to open this summer). Copper Creek Villas themselves repurpose everything from salvaged steel to railroad spikes as part of the transformation and refinement of former hotel rooms – reimagined as Deluxe Studios, one-bedroom villas, two-bedroom villas and three-bedroom Grand Villas, while rustically elegant Cascade Cabins re-imagine vacated lakeshore homes said to have once housed the railway company’s supervisors, site managers and VIPs."

I think they explained the difference.....Again, IMO, I don't think they made up the story after the fact....it may not be everyone'c cup of tea....but the point is, it looks like they put thought into it....they didn't just have a meeting and say "oh who cares about the theming....lets just do it as cheap as possible"....

We'll just disagree about the appropriateness of a shared building being so different in theme from the building to the rooms. IMO that story is just an explanation of why it's different because they have this thought they need to have "modern" rooms and that seems to mean less involved themes.

For all of this I'm not saying that the rooms are awful or anything. I'm sure they're fine on their own and will see them in a month or so. But one thing I like about Disney is their themes and usually the stronger the better for me. That is why WL and AK/AKV have long been favorites. Now they are watering that down just like most other locations.

 

[miTnosnhoJ]

The decor of a 1960's Holiday Inn brings back happy memories of my childhood, so I am happy to have it immortalized by Disney.

 

[tjkraz]

Regarding the room design, personally I would argue that the original look of VWL is just as much a 1990s interpretation of "turn of the century national park" as the current design reflects 2010s interpretation of the same. The hunter green shade which previously dominated the VWL rooms was not a 1900s design trend...that's 1990s through-and-through.

It's interesting that researching some of the most historic hotels in the Yellowstone area, like the Lake Yellowstone Hotel and Old Faithful Inn, reveal room decor which ranges from this:

...to this:

Yes, many of the redesigned DVC villas echo what other hoteliers are doing but that alone doesn't make it wrong. Again, the original look of VWL, BCV and BWV reflected what everyone was doing in the 1990s...coupled custom artwork and lamps (which are still present in the newer rooms.)

Tastes change over time; new trends emerge. Not everyone is going to share the same feelings toward the new decor but Disney should gravitate toward designs which reflect current guest expectations.

 

[Dean Marino]

Regarding the room design, personally I would argue that the original look of VWL is just as much a 1990s interpretation of "turn of the century national park" as the current design reflects 2010s interpretation of the same. The hunter green shade which previously dominated the VWL rooms was not a 1900s design trend...that's 1990s through-and-through.

It's interesting that researching some of the most historic hotels in the Yellowstone area, like the Lake Yellowstone Hotel and Old Faithful Inn, reveal room decor which ranges from this:

...to this:

Yes, many of the redesigned DVC villas echo what other hoteliers are doing but that alone doesn't make it wrong. Again, the original look of VWL, BCV and BWV reflected what everyone was doing in the 1990s...coupled custom artwork and lamps (which are still present in the newer rooms.)

Tastes change over time; new trends emerge. Not everyone is going to share the same feelings toward the new decor but Disney should gravitate toward designs which reflect current guest expectations.

We are still not buying into this.... not until the IKEA furniture goes away . Just us.

 

[viper17d]

I really don't see the problem with the villas. Based on what we've seen, they are more restrained in the wilderness theme, but it's really hard to get a solid feel through a couple of pictures. We own at Boulder Ridge and love the rustic theme - if these do, in fact, feel like BLT rooms, we will be a bit disappointed. I just keep going back to the fact that what makes BLT seem so cold isn't the rooms, it's the building, the hallways, and the elevators.

The lodge will still set the theme, and as bright and airy as the pictures of these rooms look, I'm fairly confident in Disney finding subtle, and not so subtle, ways to hit upon the theme. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but, personally, I am not going to hold their feet to the fire on something I haven't experienced yet.

 

[DrPhysics]

Does anybody know if it will be possible to book 5 guests in a 1-bedroom if you bring your own bedding? The website just says "sleeps 4."

 

[thebigman65]

Seems no one really knows for sure.....might have to wait for someone who's actually bought.....look through some of the other threads running about CCV.....maybe someone has confirmed.

 

[Nie0214]

I like the Disney photos of the new rooms, modern and clean lines are for me. But I didn't really like the ones posted by All ears, so I'm not sure what's going on there.

I wish they had incorporated some industrial rustic touches!

 

[DenLo]

I really like the rustic headboards, especially the one in the studio.

I agree with other posts that the forest green was all 1990's decor. I just want the hallways to have a similar design as the rest of WL. Although I could understand it if the carpet was different, just so people would notice they are in the DVC section and not the hotel wing. Cruise ships do that all the time to differentiate between port and starboard sides of the ship. So at CCV you know the pine design belongs to one and the trees to the other part of the resort, or something like that.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Regarding the room design, personally I would argue that the original look of VWL is just as much a 1990s interpretation of "turn of the century national park" as the current design reflects 2010s interpretation of the same. The hunter green shade which previously dominated the VWL rooms was not a 1900s design trend...that's 1990s through-and-through.

It's interesting that researching some of the most historic hotels in the Yellowstone area, like the Lake Yellowstone Hotel and Old Faithful Inn, reveal room decor which ranges from this:



Yes, many of the redesigned DVC villas echo what other hoteliers are doing but that alone doesn't make it wrong. Again, the original look of VWL, BCV and BWV reflected what everyone was doing in the 1990s...coupled custom artwork and lamps (which are still present in the newer rooms.)

Tastes change over time; new trends emerge. Not everyone is going to share the same feelings toward the new decor but Disney should gravitate toward designs which reflect current guest expectations.

I know it's often a conclusion that when a refurb is thought to be less than it could be - or worse than it was - that it follows that it was thought the previous was spot on which isn't necessarily true nor what people are saying.

But I do have to ask why you think that hunter green wasn't a color from the 1900's? Yes, it was used in the 90's but take a look at a paint color brochures from the 1900's for example. It may not be called hunter green but there are colors that are close among the very varied palette.

http://oldhouseblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/historic-paint-colors-for-victorian.html

I was pretty surprised with CCV choices after what they did at PVB which IMO blends together as a traditional Polynesian vision with some Disney touches that wasn't afraid to be dark or bold.

 

[alldiz]

How does the resort feel. If one did not know that CCV was done. Would someone just think they spruced up the WL.
Are there CCV signage....then "entering BRV" area.
I'm thinking as a "WLV" owner....my resort will just look better and I don't care what the "new" rooms look like in the new lodge.
Kerri

 

[Deb & Bill]

Makes me worry about OKW with the upcoming renovation.