Soarin' SB+ test...Fail

[jade1]

I was wondering that as well. Do they leave Gringotts running for 400 minutes after closing? I suppose WDW could move to a QBOT type return for SB, and if the wait is 90 minutes at closing-that could still be your return time.

Universal doesn't really have anything to do with this discussion so not sure why you brought it up

That was asked 300 posts ago on this thread-oddly not answered until now.

 

[mom2rtk]

The thing is WDW is feeling less like a vacation and more like work. We will start using DVC to stay in other places as much or more than we'll use it at Disney World. I can stay home and work.

And at work, they pay YOU to be there!

They're going to need to add more chairs.

I wonder what they did with all those benches they took out.......

No I wouldn't agree to that. All I will say is that SOCIALISM works in theory (level the field, spread the wealth) but in practice...in reality, it doesn't and simply sows the seeds of *******.

Yep.

And eventually you run out of other people's fastpasses.

 

[jade1]

Yep.

And eventually you run out of other people's fastpasses.

Still avoiding the question I asked. Would you agree they should hold back a large % or any FP+-or just reserve all 100% FP+ ahead of time?

 

[Planogirl]

Oh they will, with $10 beers as well.

Drink those beers and then go ride Soarin'? No thanks.

Seriously, I see a disconnect between this idea of getting people out of lines to do other things and actually having other things to do. If you have your FP+ and some SB+ for LATER, I don't see much to do NOW at places like Epcot or DHS.

 

[Tonyz]

Are they selling people water who have to wait for Soarin'?

 

[robpa]

Uh.. the same reason you're talking about Six Flags -- to contrast another park's way of handling excess crowds. Disney traditionally has let you in line if you get to a line 1 second before park close. I've always thought that was kind of cool. This new way of handling the Soarin' standby line obviously precludes that, unless you have the SB+ (modified FP-??) ticket.

uh... I didn't bring up Six Flags the poster I was replying to did. It also had nothing to do with crowd control only expectations relative to ticket price so not really the same thing.

 

[Planogirl]

Guess you can join the DAS users. This is essentially the same thing. Want to ride but can't wait in standby (or they don't want you to)? Here's a card, come back later, go find something to do in the meantime.

If they do start to gravitate to this whole card for standby, I wonder how many cards you can hold at once?

That's a good question. Plus how in the world do you ever coordinate your ADR's and FP+ with potentially several SB+? I couldn't imagine working on more than one at a time but then you end up crisscrossing the park all day which is a chore that many said FP+ would get rid of. Disney could come up with a centralized location but that would probably lead to waiting there. A phone app could alleviate some of that but only if that thing works.

Ugh.

 

[robpa]

That was asked 300 posts ago on this thread-oddly not answered until now.

Hard to remember everything discussed in a thread this long. If poster was answering you this far into thread he/she should have quoted you to make it clear that this was their intention.

 

[jade1]

Drink those beers and then go ride Soarin'? No thanks.

Seriously, I see a disconnect between this idea of getting people out of lines to do other things and actually having other things to do. If you have your FP+ and some SB+ for LATER, I don't see much to do NOW at places like Epcot or DHS.

If the argument comes down to its just better to have to stand in line for 2 hours-then there really never is a point to trying, I will concede that.

However-if you find yourself is a 2 hour Soarin SB and the CM says you can come back in 2 hours, you are actually saying you will choose to stand there for 2 hours? Heck I would back and swim at SAB for that long.

 

[phorsenuf]

That's a good question. Plus how in the world do you ever coordinate your ADR's and FP+ with potentially several SB+? I couldn't imagine working on more than one at a time but then you end up crisscrossing the park all day which is a chore that many said FP+ would get rid of. Disney could come up with a centralized location but that would probably lead to waiting there. A phone app could alleviate some of that but only if that thing works.

Ugh.

And this is what a lot of people have an issue with regarding the DAS. In some cases it makes things harder for the disabled person. I do have to chuckle that now that some things are leaning towards a parallel system that people who were all for the new fairer DAS system are now bemoaning the same system now that in a sense it's being implemented for them.

 

[Planogirl]

If the argument comes down to its just better to have to stand in line for 2 hours-then there really never is a point to trying, I will concede that.

However-if you find yourself is a 2 hour Soarin SB and the CM says you can come back in 2 hours, you are actually saying you will choose to stand there for 2 hours? Heck I would back and swim at SAB for that long.

I would prefer neither personally. I guess that my biggest concern is that it used to be easy to get fastpasses for one ride and then do other things until time for the next ride. Now it appears that there's an awful lot of planning that has to happen first and inevitably the lesser attractions will become more crowded as people look for other things to do. I might be offbase but I just see lines forming everywhere with few places to escape to.

I know that it's more fair but still....

 

[robpa]

If the argument comes down to its just better to have to stand in line for 2 hours-then there really never is a point to trying, I will concede that.

However-if you find yourself is a 2 hour Soarin SB and the CM says you can come back in 2 hours, you are actually saying you will choose to stand there for 2 hours? Heck I would back and swim at SAB for that long.

If they go the q-bot route I'm sure it will be something you have to pay for. So for those who choose not to or won't be able to justify it financially,they will be unable to ride unless they stand in a long line. Unless capacity gets filled for the ride then they may not even be able to ride at all. Wasn't FP+ supposed to level the playing field? Looks like it may be getting crooked again.

 

[mom2rtk]

Still avoiding the question I asked. Would you agree they should hold back a large % or any FP+-or just reserve all 100% FP+ ahead of time?

I think they should hold all slots until the park opens. People who buy a ticket at the gate that day need to have a decent shot at riding the headliners too.

 

[Planogirl]

And this is what a lot of people have an issue with regarding the DAS. In some cases it makes things harder for the disabled person. I do have to chuckle that now that some things are leaning towards a parallel system that people who were all for the new fairer DAS system are now bemoaning the same system now that in a sense it's being implemented for them.

Isn't the DAS based on current standby wait time though? If they do away with standby as it is now, where does that leave DAS?

 

[Sunday]

Just had to cancel all my FPs for a Saturday and Sunday so I could swap parks those two days. Anyone ever see "The Hurt Locker?" With every keystroke I was afraid I was going to detonate something and all my vacation planning was going to go scattered all about in gooey chunks.

Something tells me this was not what the developers had in mind when designing the user experience.

(That being said it was pretty seamless, although I did lose a ride on SDMT)

Not go go off-topic, but that happened to me too (complete with the feeling that everything was going to go to s&*! the second I made a change.

I also lost a single person's FP+ for SDMT too, despite not touching MK when making changes to my EP and HS FP+. Why? WHY?!

 

[jade1]

I don't see much to do NOW at places like Epcot or DHS.

The other thing is its most likely a worldwide possibility. Some parks/attractions around the world will be better candidates than others, but having the system will be easy to implement.

 

[FlipHipster]

Still avoiding the question I asked. Would you agree they should hold back a large % or any FP+-or just reserve all 100% FP+ ahead of time?

That's like asking "would you like to be punched in the head or gut?"
neither.
Not an option, head or gut?

 

[lovethattink]

Drink those beers and then go ride Soarin'? No thanks.

Seriously, I see a disconnect between this idea of getting people out of lines to do other things and actually having other things to do. If you have your FP+ and some SB+ for LATER, I don't see much to do NOW at places like Epcot or DHS.

NOW, literally, you have the extra Frozen stuff to do at dhs. But except for now and sww there aren't enough fillers.

Most times at epcot there are plenty of fillers with shows at the countries, agent P adventure, games after attractions (my son can spend hours at the racing after TT), etc.

With DAS we have to find these fillers for him.

 

[Luvchefmic]

Right now I just feel sorry for all the people that have to deal with all this as a vacationer. I was debating getting an AP again. Forget it. I'll get my Disney "fix" with MNSSHP and the occasional meal at a resort. I know I am fortunate to live close. What a cluster this whole thing is turning into.

 

[wn01aa]

Not only that but if everyone has a SB+ where will everyone end up? I can get my tickets for Soarin' to return at 2 but then what do I do? If I wait to get the tickets and the time the CM has interferes with my FP+ or ADR, can the CM offer other times or do you have to take whatever is available? And what do I do up to the time that I'm supposed to get in line? I won't shop more than I already do so do we ride Imagination or Ellen? Or just sit down and wait?

Lots of questions.

Yup. While people are waiting for their Soarin or TT SB+ time, they will go and ride The Land, Imagination, Captain Eo (I wish they would switch this back to Honey I Shunk the Audience), and Nemo. Long waits at all tier 2 rides. Heck, maybe even Universe of Energy will start getting a long wait to ride it.