Soarin' Line Cutter's

[bstnsprts]

In my opinion it's pretty simple. No form of line cutting should be allowed. If my DD3 needs to go potty, then shame on me and my wife for not making sure she goes before entering a line. If she still needs to go then we leave the line together. Why should our problem inconvenience someone else. If DD3 is impatient waiting in a line, then what are we teaching her if DW let's her wait with her outside the line and join me later. All the other three year olds can wait in line but your too special, I don't think so. Wouldn't it be easier if people just waited for their fast pass runner, or food go getter before getting in line. Oh, that would inconvenience them, the entitled ones. What would happen if every group had someone catching up to them in line. People need to be responsible and do the right thing. Enter the line together with your group, no line cutting at all.

 

[pinchy]

Sorry, but it isn't socially acceptable in Europe.

I don't want to generalise, but it is more socially acceptable in some parts of Europe than others.... us brits are practically famed for our queues in some parts of Europe. Other European countries put much less emphasis on queuing

 

[joshsmom]

I haven't read all the posts but I am SO AFRAID of being accused of line jumping that when DS has to go to the bathroom and we're in line, we get OUT of line, go to the bathroom, and then get back IN line AT THE END. Sure, grandma is with us and she could "hold our place" until DS gets finished. BUT, to me its not worth the hassle to try to get back to where we were.

 

[SteeleTig]

"DH and I were there on our honeymoom back in '96 and there were these groups from Brazil there ALWAYS skipping lines! We went back to our room and realized there was a cartoon on the WDW channel. It was in Spanish and it was obvious it was aimed at these people. I think it had Goofy on it and he was in line and tried to get all of his nephews in line with him when he finally got to the front of the ride. Pretty pathetic it takes a cartoon to try to educate these people "



Um, yeah, newsflash: Brazilians speak Portuguese.

My disney pet peeve is bigots.

How is confusing Spanish with Portuguese bigotted?

 

[JennyW]

I agree with all those others who hate it when people cut in line. One person who ran to get FPs, maybe. A parent with a small child or children, definitely. But groups of adults, or older children, definitely not. It is not fair to those people who followed the rules and waited in line. If you want to not lose too many spots in line, have the "staying" person or group get in line, then when the other person or people show up, you can easily let the people behind you ahead of you, until the other person or people catch up. Your stock will go up in their eyes, they'll be glad no one cut in line, and they'll feel like they got ahead because they went past you.

jenny

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

Well... I must say I can't believe how many BAD MANNERED people there are out there!

the best is when a teenager (15-16 yo) says "I have to catch up with my mom and dad" Well maybe mom and dad should have waited for you... you are old enough to stand in line alone.

I have however let mom and kid right behind us catch up with dad and the 3 kids right in front of us.

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Excuse me, but WHAT makes the 15-16 year old teenager any different? How do YOU know that they weren't in the bathroom before you entered the line? How do u know that they weren't sick somewhere?
WHY would just NOT allow a CHILD (15-16 yes is a child) to join his/her family?

Oh yes. as you say. there are RUDE people out there.

Would you not allow me, a 30something adult, to go back to my place in line with my family, because 'i am old enough to wait in line alone?'

As someone previously mentioned, this issue has a lot of 'grey areas' hence why disney has no signs saying 'no cutting' because there is always the exception to any rule.

but let me say: that the whole issue of 1 person getting in line while the rest of the group makes their way later, i have a problem with that. its completely different than a whole family being in line and 1 person shows up late (can't stand for long periods of time, had to leave the que for a bathroom break whatever) and asks NICELY to please be excused

 

[Gonz Of Lancashire]

How is confusing Spanish with Portuguese bigotted?

Know what you're getting at. My pet peeve is people using their "superior" intelligence to belittle someone elses.

 

[traviesojmt]

I have to say that in my experience, even cast members have encouraged line cutting for children who have to go to the bathroom. When my son was 3, we were waiting in line for Test Track. When it was almost our turn to ride, my son announced that he really had to go to the bathroom. The cast member overheard and kindly told us we could leave the side entrance and he gave us a pass to come back in the side entrance and get directly on the ride. A very young child may not have to go the bathroom when you get in line, but he might after waiting 30-45 min for a ride. I'm sorry, but I believe that it is ok to make allowances for people. Rude line cutters who are pushing, shoving and cursing are not the same as a poor child who has waited 45 minutes to ride but now has to go to the bathroom.

 

[INDISMOM]

To AllyCatTapia,

If I made a mistake, I apologize, but that certainly does not make me a bigot. That is a very strong statement to make and unless you personally know me, you have no idea what you are talking about.

I would be just as upset if it were American tour groups cutting in line and there needed to be a cartoon in English -- IT IS WRONG!

 

[bstnsprts]

Would you not allow me, a 30something adult, to go back to my place in line with my family, because 'i am old enough to wait in line alone?'


NO! Because I don't understand why your family could not wait for you before getting in line. If I have to go to the bathroom, then my wife and daughter would wait for me before entering a line. You'd rather inconvience the 50 people that you have to push your way through, rather than have your family wait for you. Again, why couldn't your family wait for you?

 

[Markstudy]

How do YOU know that they weren't in the bathroom before you entered the line?

How many of you, run Red Lights when your family member has to go to the bathroom? (Rules work best when we all behave the same way)

So it comes down to this.....The bathroom is a magic reason to cut in line?

The problem with the bathroom loop-hole is that for the few that need it...it give the scammers, con artist, rude people, and cheats a loop hole big enough to drive the rest of us nuts.

If someone in my party has to go to the bathroom, we wait and then get in line after. Or we get out of line and then start again at the end of the line. Its not like its going to happen over and over to the same family. So your family has to wait twice. That's better then cutting in front of 50 people that did manage to get their bathroom breaks right


Just like a long car trip... you should check with everyone before going


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[theflowerladee]

I live in NJ and don't often go to Great Adventure(six flags) but the last time
I was there they had 2 lifeguard type chairs w/ workers in them mid-way thru the line and they had signs to wait for your party and anyone caught cutting
would be ejected from the park. I go to wdw w/ 3 children and have on occasion had to get off line to take one to the bathroom, and we just wait to go on the ride when my dh and other ds's get off the line. I think it is inconsiderate for people to cut now matter what the circumstance.

 

[Gonz Of Lancashire]

I don't want to generalise, but it is more socially acceptable in some parts of Europe than others.... us brits are practically famed for our queues in some parts of Europe. Other European countries put much less emphasis on queuing

The poster I was replying to made out that pushing in is acceptable in Europe. We know it isn't but people try it on everywhere, even the UK. The reason people do it at home is the wishy-washy way we handle problems nowadays. If more us stood up to the wrong do-ers, things would be better. There are no real grey areas on this. A poster above states that what if a 16yr old was sick? Well, why would he go on a ride then?. Some people now are just self-absorbed with what's best for them, rather than whats good for everyone else.

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

very young child may not have to go the bathroom when you get in line, but he might after waiting 30-45 min for a ride. I'm sorry, but I believe that it is ok to make allowances for people.

EXACTLY

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

Would you not allow me, a 30something adult, to go back to my place in line with my family, because 'i am old enough to wait in line alone?'


NO! Because I don't understand why your family could not wait for you before getting in line. If I have to go to the bathroom, then my wife and daughter would wait for me before entering a line. You'd rather inconvience the 50 people that you have to push your way through, rather than have your family wait for you. Again, why couldn't your family wait for you?

well quite frankly, if we all got in line together, and after 40 min of waiting my IBS starts up and i have to go, and i have to go NOW, I excuse myself out of the line, and then i excuse myself back in.

i AGREE that you should ALL go into the line TOGETHER. i would never go into line with out any members of my family, period.

 

[ihearttink]

My family must be crazy the way we act at Disney World.

When we go to Disney if one of us needs the bathroom the others wait outside the bathroom, not in line at an attraction. If the urge hits while we are in line, well that's to bad for us, we all leave the line. Also, we all get our FP as a group BEFORE heading off to another attraction.

I would never cut in front of people at an attraction, so when someone tries to do it to us, I do get mad .

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

With anything, there are degrees.

It's virtually impossible for a little kid to go when they don't have to. But they can suddenly have to This is especially true within about a year or two of being potty trained. So I have no problem with those that are in line, take their kids out of line, and then go back to where they were. They aren't inconveniencing me in the least other than I have to step aside twice. And they have put in their time in line like everyone else.
At the other end of the spectrum are those that send one person in line, and then have 30 others in their group join them. They don't get past me.
Now in the middle are those that at the beginning of the day, send family into the standby, Then rush to get fastpasses and push to get back to their family. Or there are those that will put a family member in line while someone else takes someone to the bathroom. That is rude, but these, I tend to let by unless I know they weren't in line previously.

But I don't run into these situations all that much because we don't wait that often in lines over 15 minutes. Sometimes, we'll chose to up to 30 minutes if the fastpass returns are for an inconvenient time. But most of the time, we don't stand in lines over 15.

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

How do YOU know that they weren't in the bathroom before you entered the line?

So it comes down to this.....

The bathroom is a magic reason to cut in line?

Just like a long car trip... you should check with everyone before going.

The problem with the bathroom loop-hole is that for the few that need it...it give the scammers, con artist, rude people, and cheats a loop hole big enough to drive the rest of us nuts.

If someone in my party has to go to the bathroom, we wait and then get in line after. Or we get out of line and then start again at the end of the line. Its not like its going to happen over and over to the same family. So your family has to wait twice. That's better then cutting in front of 50 people that did manage to get their bathroom breaks right


How many of you, run Red Lights when your family member has to go to the bathroom? (Rules work best when we all behave the same way)

well personally, if i have waited a long time, ie 40 minutes in line, and there is a long time left to wait, those who see me exit the line and then reenter will remember. if they have a problem with it, well i guess that their lack of compassion. not mine.

i like to give the benefit of the doubt to people. there is too much negatvie in human nature, however, that sometimes u give the benefit of doubt to those that take advantage.

there will be someone who takes advantage regardless of the situation. I am just trying to convey to some of you that there can be reasons, legitimate. it happens. one person who leaves the line to come back to the line, is COMPLETELY different than a group of people who decide to go up because they see someone they know, or because they wanted to go for lunch while so and so waited in line, or because one person ran ahead of the entire group to get in line....

 

[Gonz Of Lancashire]

How do YOU know that they weren't in the bathroom before you entered the line?

How many of you, run Red Lights when your family member has to go to the bathroom? (Rules work best when we all behave the same way)

So it comes down to this.....The bathroom is a magic reason to cut in line?

The problem with the bathroom loop-hole is that for the few that need it...it give the scammers, con artist, rude people, and cheats a loop hole big enough to drive the rest of us nuts.

If someone in my party has to go to the bathroom, we wait and then get in line after. Or we get out of line and then start again at the end of the line. Its not like its going to happen over and over to the same family. So your family has to wait twice. That's better then cutting in front of 50 people that did manage to get their bathroom breaks right


Just like a long car trip... you should check with everyone before going


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I was at the football in Liverpool saturday and waiting in line outside the pub where I was meeting my Dad. While I was waiting there were four people who came up with children using the "child wants the toilet" routine. All were rebuffed. Except one. He, his son and his wife were there when he asked, and the man on the door said his wife could take the child in, as she set off the doorman stopped the husband and told him to wait outside for them. He then went on his mobile phone and told his wife to come out as he wasn't going to get in. We all had to wait in the cold outside, but he felt above that.

 

[Markstudy]

there will be someone who takes advantage regardless of the situation. I am just trying to convey to some of you that there can be reasons, legitimate. ..[/QUOTE]

I understand and enjoy the debate.

But I still feel that the the scammers, con artist, rude people, and cheats all use the bathroom loop-hole to make a joke out of waiting your turn.


What would you do if Disney did what Six Flags did and made line cutting for any reason against the rules, and added enforcement?