Soarin' Line Cutter's

[Shagley]

So, do you let the polite 'cutters' through?

Yes, I do.

You can usually tell what people were on an "errand" (fastpasses, restroom, etc) and what people are trying to cut just to get closer to the front of the line.

 

[DisneyDotty]

As someone who can't wait in line under broiling sun and the designated FP runner, it's a tricky situation. I feel guilty moving past those in line to catch up with my DH, but in the case of waiting in the sun, I don't have many options.
I guess I'm okay with one member of the party being allowed through, but more than one--well, one OP said it well--you ARE a party then.
I guess I always feel bad for those in a standby line of more than a 30 minute wait--don't those people read the Disboards?

 

[Markstudy]

, I'm the designated 'runner' for the fastpasses. My husband will get in line with our daughters and I will run over to the next ride and get fast passes.

Disneyrsh, You asked this question in a very nice way.
Lets make this more generic and pretend it is not about any one person from the Dis Boards

In General- If someone finds a way to save time? ..aren't they taking time away from everyone else?

If every family did their little chores while someone acted as a place-holder...the lines would be a total mess.

This system only works, if a few agressive people act like this, while the rest of the people stand in line after their group is together and actually ready to ride (got fast passes, went to the bathroom, finished their food and are actually ready to ride)

So if we all did this, no one family would save time.
This system depends on One Agressive person having the guts to push their way back through the line and inconvience all the people you pass...so that they can save a few minutes.

My question to our board is- How do you think all the people and small childern feel that get passed ? Do you think it makes them feel good as someone walks by, while they stand their wondering why the rules don't apply to that person?

Is saving time... worth tarnishing the magic for many others?


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[WillCAD]

Ouch, I have a single grain of sand in my shoe.

Quit complaining, it's only one grain of sand!

Ouch, now I have 10 graind of sand in my shoe.

Oh, shut up and enjoy the view! They're only grains of sand, they're so small you can barely even see them!

Ouch, my whole shoe is full of sand and I can't even lift it because it's so heavy.

You are such a whiner, to complain about a few measly grains of sand!

Line cutting is wrong. It is rude and inconsiderate - it shows that you think you are more deserving or more entitled to that space up front than any of the people you pass. Why? What majkes you a better, more deserving, or more entitled person than all of those other people who have been waiting patiently?

I don't consider it line cutting for parent to take a kid to the bathroom and come back. I do consider it line cutting for part of a party to get in line and then expect everybody else to part like the red sea for the remainder of the party.

I am never rude or confrontational about this, but I do tend to keep both hands on the rails when in line, so that if somebody wants to push past me they have to actually push past, or look me in teh eye and ask me to move, which gives them a chance to justify why they are more deserving of the front place than me.

 

[ameraumi]

I only had this happen one time last week and that was waiting in line at Dumbo. There was a dad/daughter ahead of me and nothing was said until we get around to the last lane before boarding. All of the sudden mom and 2 more daughters show up with Mickey bars for them and hop in line. My DD, who is only 4, figured out what was going on and yelled, "hey, not fair! we have been waiting forever!" The look on that families face was priceless. Everyone around us laughed at what DD said but you could tell they were thinking the same thing. Sure we had to wait an extra few minutes, and I took that time to explain very loudly to DD that there will always be people she meets in life that was not taught how to wait.

There would be no way in HE!! that I would have let the "senior" women in fron tof me either. I probably would have said "you must be having a senior moment if you think I'm letting you by me".

 

[Sweedee]

Hey, maybe they should market a BUMPER-STICKER:

"The family that RIDES together, STAYS together."

I'd buy it...and bumper sticker my backpack!

 

[Kewz1]

hey teachinmykids, Leave the senoirs alone! if anyone belongs at the front of the line it is the people who have worked hard all their life and have been productive members of society TEACHING THEIR KIDS, and yes I think they belong at the front of every line and should get the dicounts to go with it. Amen

Someone being a senior citizen in no way implies they have worked hard all their lives, been productive members of society, taught their children any of those things or even that they have children. It certainly doesn't mean they have some automatic right to be first in line and get there by cutting in front of me.

Kristen

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

I can't agree with Carol about blocking senior citizens even if they were a little rude, if they have the right, even if they didn't I probably wouldn't say or do anything. As far as families doing it, thats fine, many times one or more have to do a bathroom break, etc, etc, no prob, but it can get annoying when it happens otherwise and there should be rules against it. I've seen large groups of older kids do it, "gangs" of people doing it, families at times that were no way meeting up with others, my hubbie and I have done the human shield thing (not too helpful with me bc I'm petite but I do my best, but hubbie is tall and muscular) hehe. I think we should try to look at some of the other posts showing how they have real probs in their life and try to look at it that way, we are are Disney! YEAH! We've seen it happen many many times and you spend a long time yourself on line, it really can get upsetting!

 

[Markstudy]

Okay.... here's a funny one

I went food shopping.

This big lady jogs two big steps, and jumps in front of me, as I push my cart into the check-out line.

I figure.... so what? she's not even carrying anything.

So I push my cart in behind her and start to unload my food, and she stops me!

"Sir my daughter is behind you!"

I look back, and her lovely daughter, with a cart loaded with enough food for a familly of 6, is turning the corner and walking up to our line.

Apperently this large woman ran and jumped in-front of me, and now expects me to back-out of line because her teen daughter has finally caught up with their cart full of food.

I had to laugh. This lady wanted to fight (although her food had not made it to the line before my food ) she wanted me to get out of her way.

If this would have been Disney, or a car race, or a sports event (something man-ish) I would have kicked-butt, but I was laughing soooo hard and not worried about winnning a turf-battle at a superMarket that I backed up and let her equally bitter daughter in front of me. If looks could kill....they were really mad ( I just wasn't ready to push this mountain of mad momma out of my way) I was caught off gurad and at the time, I guess it just didn't seem that important to me

Lesson of the day folks- If you don't have all your stuff done, don't get in line in front of us who do

 

[catherines_mama]

I'm sorry, but I don't get some of this "live and let live", or "relax, take it easy, you're in WDW..". Right...I'm here, as a paying guest, following the rules like 90% of all the other paying guests.

If you're rude enough to cut in line, I'll have no problem pointing it out to ALL the people around me. My husband says I can incite a crowd into a riot if I put my mind to it ! Bring It ON ! ( Hubby's size is enough to usually have people thinking twice about talking back!!! )

It's not going to ruin my vacation by pointing out someone else's stupidity.

I have to agree that I think bad manners are bad manners. It is very hard to raise a child to do the right thing when surronding them is people NOT doing the right thing.

OP was entitled to be annoyed, and I didn't read it as still stewing over it a week later. She probably just was remembering her trip and visiting the DIS and said, "ya know, I need to share a pet peeve". We do share those here on DIS. But its a good pet peeve, its one of mine. I travel with a group of 3 (at most 4) and we rarely split up. If we do (run ahead for FP, take DD to potty) then we wait at the ride entrance. I do not want to teach my DD that its okay to line cut, no matter the circumstances. Now if we were in line and DD had to potty, yeah, I'd duck out and come back, but we don't usually wait in that long of lines (LOVE FP)

Some things are okay, but when a group of 4 pushes past you, it really is not needed. Be polite, always, remember whose eyes are on you, you are showing the kids how to act and thats now how I want my kid to grow up.

 

[DisDarling]

Hey, maybe they should market a BUMPER-STICKER:

"The family that RIDES together, STAYS together."

LOVE it!!!! You should copyright it and sent it to Disney
D.D.

 

[INDISMOM]

I hate the line skippers too! DH and I were there on our honeymoom back in '96 and there were these groups from Brazil there ALWAYS skipping lines! We went back to our room and realized there was a cartoon on the WDW channel. It was in Spanish and it was obvious it was aimed at these people. I think it had Goofy on it and he was in line and tried to get all of his nephews in line with him when he finally got to the front of the ride. Pretty pathetic it takes a cartoon to try to educate these people

On a side note, when I was younger we went to Epcot on Dec. 31 with my grandfather who was in a wheelchair. We all felt horrible because there was 8 of us total and because DGF was in a wheelchair we all got to go to the front of the line. We always told the CMs the rest of us would wait, but they said no we could go with DGF -- what do you think -- should the rest of us waited and just sent 1 or 2 with DGF?

 

[Gonz Of Lancashire]

But it is my understanding from reading these boards that even that practice is socially acceptable in Europe. I try to live and let live.

Sorry, but it isn't socially acceptable in Europe. it's only acceptable if everyone takes the attitude of complaining to themselves. Took my family to DL Paris and a school group of 14-15 years olds thought it would be "acceptable" to barge their way to the front of the line for a ride which was essentially for small children. My 4 year old son sat in the ride and one of the teenagers sat behind him and gestured for me to take my son out. WRONG. Don't know much in the way of the french language so I had to drag him out by the hood and march him round to the security where he was promptly ejected. Whilst leaving the ride a lot of the people who'd been queing said that they were going to say something to him as he cut in line, whilst I thought "why didn't you then?". The problem in the US isn't that bad, but people should be told. For evil to prosper it takes good men to do nothing.

 

[Markstudy]

For evil to prosper it takes good men to do nothing.

 

[AllyCatTapia]

"DH and I were there on our honeymoom back in '96 and there were these groups from Brazil there ALWAYS skipping lines! We went back to our room and realized there was a cartoon on the WDW channel. It was in Spanish and it was obvious it was aimed at these people. I think it had Goofy on it and he was in line and tried to get all of his nephews in line with him when he finally got to the front of the ride. Pretty pathetic it takes a cartoon to try to educate these people "



Um, yeah, newsflash: Brazilians speak Portuguese.

My disney pet peeve is bigots.

 

[Evil Queen]

I too, would wait for my party before getting in line (unless nature calls-then I am ok with that-been there done that). I actually took my DS when he was 6 and had older son hold place in line, I was embarrassed having to repeat to the folks in line, "My party is ahead in the line". And in the nature calls area, most bathrooms I spot, I also do the "If anyone needs to go, now would be a good time." speech. Never had to leave a line since for that.

Last two trips I have "held my ground" on folks.

 

[eeyore45]

The one thing that I dont understand is the issue of "tolerance"... ie As long as Disney "tolerates" "line jumpers" it encourages "line jumping'

That being said I think there are plenty of families, and situations where leaving a line and returning it is not viewed as "line jumping"

Luckily for Disney this must not be a huge issue, as it is in many Amusement Parks, probably less incidences of "dropping" off kids for a day - I must admit in comparison the the 6 Flags near here, there are proportionately more families at Disney...

conversely, 6 Flags does not tolerate "line jumping" - "dont even think about it" attitude was prevelant as they had people stationed throughout the ride ques, and if you were "caught" catching up to your group - you were ejected from the park...

plain and simple, no longer an issue!!

However, how would disney like to employ CM's to stand in line? And how would it look if Disney ejected family members for "line jumping" ? So of course they dont... and so of course too many take advantage of the situation...

In that respect doesnt the unofficial guide encourage "line jumping"?? Esp for Dumbo???

 

[Gonz Of Lancashire]

And how would it look if Disney ejected family members for "line jumping" ?

Guess it's a question of how they presented it. If they came out and said "we have a problem with queue jumping in our parks, and from now on anyone caught doing this will be ejected from the parks" I don't think anyone would complain, if anything it would raise my opinion of Disney. The only ones who would complain are the ones who make a habit of this practice.

 

[michaelsmommy]

I keep reading replies that the OP shouldn't get so worked up about these small things...Is that what she was doing? Or was she just posting an unpleasant experience about a Disney park on a discussion board???

I personally cannot stand rude people! I'm a sucker for politeness though, so if someone or an adult w/ child were to ask nicely I would probably be more than happy to let them by. I would never let a group of people push by me though. They would more than likely have to run me down.

As for the senior citizens, that story is hilarious! Some of the meanest, rudest people I have ever met have been senior citizens so, IMHO, if they have the arm strength to push people out of the way and the lung strength to below their "elderly rights" above the noisy crowd, then they sure as heck have the leg strength to stand there for a few more minutes for their turn. I only wish I could've been there to witness it.

 

[pinchy]

There are so many ways to respond to this thread....

Choose your battles.
Always look on the bright side of life (todoot, todoot, tadoot tadoot tadoot!)
Don't sweat the small stuff. (And it's all small stuff.)

I'm sorry, but I don't feel one bit sorry for you. You were at Disney World last week!!! Last week, I was going to visit my teenage son every day in the psychiatric hospital while he was there for severe depression and suicide prevention. I would have let anyone cut the line in front of me all day long, because just being there with him and the rest of my family would have been heaven instead of what we were (and still are) going through.

that's very sad to hear and I feel bad for you and hope you are ok

BUT

I think that was a wildly inappropriate thing to say. People shouldn't let the little bad things in the world go unnoticed just because really big bad things happen. There is always someone worse off than you, but everyone has a right to complain... even about the simplest things.