So Not Impressed: My First Disney Dining Experience (no meal plan)

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Because I read a lot of dining reviews here before going to Disney, I thought I’d report back on our food experience. This isn’t an in-depth report and there are no pictures, but just in case you are curious here goes (BTW, we were NOT on the dining plan) …

The first night we ate at La Hacienda de San Angel. We had an 8:00 PM ADR and ended up waiting about 35 minutes for our table, which was our longest wait of the week.

It wasn’t a great table, but it was in the room we could have viewed Illuminations from, had our son not become squirmy wormy. The food was average, at best. Definitely the caliber of a Chili’s or On the Border, but two or three times as expensive. The chips are from a bag, the salsa from a jar (which, now that I think about it, actually makes it worse than On the Border). Edible, but nothing even slightly special.

We had the taco trio and the enchilada-something. Both were barely OK and totally forgettable. But our waitress was wonderful, and the manager came by to check on us and had a nice chat. (He seemed genuinely interested.) Also impressive were the margaritas, particularly the Mango Fire. Even at $13/each I was searching for another one of these for the rest of the week, but La Hacienda is the only place that offers them. Very, VERY good (but pretty strong; they are a one and done option for me) and almost made up for the lackluster food.

The next morning we had breakfast at ‘Ohana. There was a bit of a wait, though we were the first reservations of the day, but once seated things came fast. The food was … Not good. Not at all. Powdered eggs, cold bread (I had one bite and thought it tasted like semi-stale Entenmanns), floppy pre-cooked and re-warmed bacon and potatoes so salty they were literally inedible. (My incredibly non-picky husband spit his bite into a napkin, so I took a bite thinking they couldn’t be THAT bad. They were.) Oh and did I mention that the plate and my silverware when we sat down was covered in gunk (very visible)? Just yucky.

What redeemed this dreadful meal were the characters. The interaction was great and my son—this being his first brush with Disney characters—was absolutely enthralled. When Pluto picked him to lead the parade, he never even looked back or asked us. He was just gone. (Seriously, Pluto could have led him to a Turkish prison and my son would have been thrilled.)

Due to a monorail malfunction we missed our California Grill dinner ADR, so I can’t tell you how that was.

On our second full day, we had breakfast at Tusker House. Again we were the first reservation of the day. Here, you pose for a photo with Donald but Disney, who pushes those autograph books like crack to kids, doesn’t allow Donald to sign autographs AND Donald never comes to your table either, which felt like a rip-off and there were lots of disappointed children around.

Apparently, they have separate dining rooms and different characters service both, so my son inadvertently saw two Goofys at the same time, which was confusing. (But he just thought Goofy had run really fast.)

As for the food, there was a lot of it, but little of it edible to my mind. How do they have stale donuts at the first seating of the day? Kind of mind boggling. My son enjoyed the kid-level buffet, but everything on it was cold, including the Mickey waffles.

The character interaction here seemed a lot more rushed and the parade was half-hearted at best. We didn’t really eat and my son didn’t really enjoy himself all that much so it didn’t seem like $75 well spent. After that experience we cancelled our third character breakfast reservation at Crystal Palace.

That night we went to Victoria and Albert’s which was sublime. I was so worried after all the so-so Disney experiences so far, but this was one of the best meals of our lives and nothing Disney-like at all. A real wow that was worth every single penny (and, trust me, it was a LOT of pennies). I’ll post about it in the Victoria and Albert’s thread.

We ventured off property to try the Sweet by Holly cupcakes. Oh my goodness were they yummy! Totally worth the trip (or delivery charge). Just wonderful. We got the Christmas assortment of mini-cupcakes and they were to die for. And then couldn’t help ourselves trying the red velvet and they were just SO good. (We ended up with too many to finish, but what we did were excellent.)

That night we went to the Hoop-De-Doo Revue, which my son adored. Honestly, it might have been his favorite thing on the whole trip. Again, the food was edible, but little more (Jiffy box cornbread, Kentucky Fried Chicken, box mashed potatoes and canned beans), but the show was lots of fun and my son left singing and stomping for the next 30 minutes.

The next day we made a last-minute lunch reservation at the San Angel Inn (there was little to choose from). When the hostess asked us what we were celebrating I said, ‘Getting in out of the cold.’ (It was 20 degrees at the time.) She laughed.

The food, again, was sub-par, but we expected that. The soup I had was clearly from a can (again, so salty!). The atmosphere was interesting, though we were nowhere near the stream, and the margaritas were nothing compared to La Hacienda. It was nice and warm though, making it almost seem worthwhile.

That night, after a good bit of disappointing Disney dining, we cancelled our dinner ADR and had a local friend bring Papa John’s pizza, which we ate in the club lounge at the Polynesian.

The next day it was time for our long-held lunch reservation at Le Cellier. We were seated VERY promptly (even early) and the hostesses at the front were great and fun. Our waitress though was not exactly highly motivated. She was very blasé, didn’t want to joke (when she offered us “signature Canadian cocktails” I joked that I didn’t know Canada had a national cocktail and she, looking completely nonplussed, simply pointed to the menu list) and altogether bored. She disappeared for long periods of time and I never even got a soda refill.

My husband had an open face sandwich, which he said was good. My son had a hotdog and French fries he didn’t eat (though, that was his only hotdog and fries on the trip, so I thought I was doing well) and I had (and shared with hubby) the mushroom filet over mashed potatoes. Having experienced all the too-salty food, and hearing salt complaints about this place, I was really worried but, in the end, it was fine. Not great—if you’ve been to Outback, you’ve experienced this level of food and service before—but not bad, and well better than average compared to the Disney food we’d experienced thus far. Perhaps that’s how this place got such a great rep. It’s not really good, but it is outstanding compared to other Disney options.

On the last day we went to Downtown Disney and tried Babycakes NYC. My son had a doughnut and I tried the red velvet cupcake. (They didn’t have brownie bites that day.) The woman at the counter was SO nice and friendly; I wanted to love this place. Alas, the red velvet cupcake was dry and pretty tasteless and the icing tasted like powdered sugar … and nothing else. My son’s doughnut was better, but still dry and chalky.

We ate a late lunch/dinner at T-Rex. We didn’t expect the food to be good here, and that expectation was rewarded. Very greasy, clearly frozen hamburger patty (trying to stick to easy/safe food) and lukewarm waffle fries (for which there was an up-charge). Probably would have been better off eating at the Pollo Camparo, which actually smelled pretty good when we were in the building for Babycakes. T-Rex is definitely a do-it-once-for-the-kids experience that I never want to have again. (Both my husband and I felt a little queasy afterwards. I think it was just so greasy.) And, frankly, after a week in Disney World, animatronic dinosaurs and meteor showers were almost ho-hum to my almost-four-year-old used to Disney magic around every corner. Definitely would have been a bigger hit on night one, before we visited the parks.

Other than that, my son had one Mickey ice cream bar and we had one bite of a truly awful, but it looked good, cupcake from the Main Street Bakery in the Magic Kingdom. That kind of summed up my entire feeling about Disney food (minus Victoria and Albert’s, which really shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Disney food): it LOOKS good, but tastes pretty bad.

We also tried the “hot chocolate” at the Christmas party, which was nothing but brown colored boiling water. Mostly I just wanted to pour it on my feet because it was C-O-L-D.

I will add that I’m stunned they don’t have better drink options for kids at the many drink kiosks. Nothing but soda, water and Crystal Light. How hard would it be to have even an apple juice option at a place with so many young kids? Or a juice box? Or, something, marginally kid-friendly?

I went in with pretty low food expectations, and they were met. I left thinking that anyone who visits Disney for the food is bound to be disappointed. And, if you have a car and want to save a buck, just about any off-property chain restaurant, and they’re everywhere, is going to give you a better experience than Disney dining.
 
We love Disney and have been many times, just recently in November. My dh & I commented the food was just ok this trip. I remember the food being much better in the past. Try again next time, maybe it's something to do with the economy?? I'm holding out hope.
 
I'm so sorry you didn't have a good dining experience at Disney. I, myself have enjoyed every place we dined. Granted we didn't eat at O'hana's or Tusker House, but we enjoyed Crystal Palace, Kona Cafe, and many other places. I hope next time you have a better experience.
 
Thanks for the report, I really enjoyed reading it.
Althrough we dine at Disney several times a week, we don't go to any of the places you dined at, except for V & A ( only do that once or twice a year)

Good reading :thumbsup2
 

well, bummer for you and your family...sorry you didn't enjoy the dining more. Hopefully you had fun in the parks, though?
 
I am so sorry that you all had such a bad food experience on your trip. We loved the Disney food when there in September, but we didn't eat at any of the places you did. Next time it may be better for you if you try different places. We loved Jiko (we ate there two days in a row it was so good), Sanaa, Kouzzina, Grand Floridian Cafe, Artist Point, Wolfgang Puck and Brown Derby.
 
Thank you for your thoughtful and well balanced review. I'm off to look for your V&A review now :)
 
that's a bummer.sounds like you should do more of the signature restaurants....California Grille and Jiko are amazing!!!! We also had amazing meals at the Swan and Dolphin this past trip (kimonos and BLuezoo)...they def have a signature feel and don't have the rush feel of a disney restaurant.
 
I think that paying out of pocket can mean that Disney meals can go from ok/good to poor due to the price. And it can be worse when you have bad service on top!

I enjoyed our food on our last trip but that was free dining so that may have swayed my thoughts on the matter, perhaps I would think differently paying out of my pocket.

I'm sorry you had a bad time, but at least you son had some memorable experiences that will probably stick with him for a long time!
 
Sorry to hear the food was so bad. Our trip this January was pretty much the same. We had 2 good meals out of 16. Citricos and Wolfgang Puck Express. Everything else was either barely edible or just downright bad. We even got our credits back at a couple of places (hadn't asked, just wanted management to know the food was subpar). Your take on Hoop de doo is the same as ours. And, that was one of our better meals.

We're trying a lot of new restaurants this trip, but I go in knowing that I'm not at Disneyworld for food, but for entertainment. If we eat along the way, we won't be as hungry. :laughing:
 
Thanks for posting your thoughts. I am sorry your dining experiences were disappointing, and I'm really sorry you missed your California Grill meal. Thanks to you, we got an ADR to Le Cellier, so I was hoping you would have a magical trip. We were also overall disappointed....all the food tastes the same after a couple of meals. I hope the rest of your trip was wonderful. Thanks again!!

Lori
 
Thanks for posting your thoughts. I am sorry your dining experiences were disappointing, and I'm really sorry you missed your California Grill meal. Thanks to you, we got an ADR to Le Cellier, so I was hoping you would have a magical trip. We were also overall disappointed....all the food tastes the same after a couple of meals. I hope the rest of your trip was wonderful. Thanks again!!

Lori

In no way did some lackluster dining effect our trip negatively in the least. I'm a foodie, used to some pretty upscale places (though I can find something to like at, say, Outback or Chili's too) and lots of good home-cooking (by me), so I went in prepared for the worst, but hoping for the best. Other than the prices (and those I just tried to close my eyes and ignore), it was all pretty much comparable to, say, an Applebee's. I think the stuff that bugged me the most was the lack of freshness. Disney turns over a TON of food every day, so there seems no excuse for that. Sure, you're making most of the stuff in a central kitchen, then reheating it at locales (and it shows), but that doesn't mean you can't have made it a few hours ago, instead of what often tasted like a few days. Like they got way too far ahead of the game with pre-prep and just kept cooking.

At the Main Street Bakery I asked about the cupcake's freshness and was told they had just put them out and couldn't keep them in stock. Well, who knows where it was before the bakery got it, but it was clearly 2-3 days old (or really poorly stored overnight somewhere) by the taste. I expected cake from a mix and frosting from a jar, but I also expected it to be recently made. That's probably my biggest gripe.
 
I agree - the food didn't negatively impact our trip either. Nothing beats hearing my 3 year old scream and giggle while riding Test Track for the first time....or watching my 10 month old interact with the characters. That's magic! Glad you also had a good trip.
 
Donald signed my girls books and came by our table...has something changed ??

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Donald signed my girls books and came by our table...has something changed ??

I don't know if it's temporary or permanent but Donald did not come to the table when we there on December 12 and was available only for pictures when you first come in. Daisy, Goofy and Mickey all come to the table and sign autographs and pose for pictures and one character participates in the parade for each dining room.
 
Thank you for posting your dining thoughts. The review was very detailed and thoughtful.
 
Okay... I have one question and I'm not being rude or snarky. Curious were you more upset of the prices of the food or the quality? Because eating at Papa John's isn't a high quality pizza but I'm assuming it was better because the price and quality matched. I'm just trying to figure out what made you most unhappy about Disney Dining. Also, if you didn't eat at California Grill then, where did you eat that night?

I'm sorry you had a rotten time.
 
Because I read a lot of dining reviews here before going to Disney, I thought I’d report back on our food experience. This isn’t an in-depth report and there are no pictures, but just in case you are curious here goes (BTW, we were NOT on the dining plan) …

The first night we ate at La Hacienda de San Angel. We had an 8:00 PM ADR and ended up waiting about 35 minutes for our table, which was our longest wait of the week.

It wasn’t a great table, but it was in the room we could have viewed Illuminations from, had our son not become squirmy wormy. The food was average, at best. Definitely the caliber of a Chili’s or On the Border, but two or three times as expensive. The chips are from a bag, the salsa from a jar (which, now that I think about it, actually makes it worse than On the Border). Edible, but nothing even slightly special.

I can tell you that the two types of salsa are not "from a jar" and our chips were warm and served out of a fryer. This was in September, so things may have changed since then.

We had the taco trio and the enchilada-something. Both were barely OK and totally forgettable. But our waitress was wonderful, and the manager came by to check on us and had a nice chat. (He seemed genuinely interested.) Also impressive were the margaritas, particularly the Mango Fire. Even at $13/each I was searching for another one of these for the rest of the week, but La Hacienda is the only place that offers them. Very, VERY good (but pretty strong; they are a one and done option for me) and almost made up for the lackluster food.

Ironically, we found the margaritas to be the weakest part of our meal at Hacienda. We felt those in La Cava del Tequila and served at Siesta's at Coronado Springs were far superior. Our food was stellar, the shrimp tacos were delicious and the chicken dish that DMom and my best friend got was wonderful. Sorry that it didn't live up to it's hype.

The next morning we had breakfast at ‘Ohana. There was a bit of a wait, though we were the first reservations of the day, but once seated things came fast. The food was … Not good. Not at all. Powdered eggs, cold bread (I had one bite and thought it tasted like semi-stale Entenmanns), floppy pre-cooked and re-warmed bacon and potatoes so salty they were literally inedible. (My incredibly non-picky husband spit his bite into a napkin, so I took a bite thinking they couldn’t be THAT bad. They were.) Oh and did I mention that the plate and my silverware when we sat down was covered in gunk (very visible)? Just yucky.


What redeemed this dreadful meal were the characters. The interaction was great and my son—this being his first brush with Disney characters—was absolutely enthralled. When Pluto picked him to lead the parade, he never even looked back or asked us. He was just gone. (Seriously, Pluto could have led him to a Turkish prison and my son would have been thrilled.)

My experience with Disney breakfasts, whether family-service or buffet has been the same as yours. The food is lack-luster. However, characters meals (imho) are more about the character interaction than the food.

Due to a monorail malfunction we missed our California Grill dinner ADR, so I can’t tell you how that was.

Sorry to hear this, were you stuck on the monorail? We have been late (45 mins late) to CG reservations due to monorail malfunctions and have always been accepted when we checked in.

On our second full day, we had breakfast at Tusker House. Again we were the first reservation of the day. Here, you pose for a photo with Donald but Disney, who pushes those autograph books like crack to kids, doesn’t allow Donald to sign autographs AND Donald never comes to your table either, which felt like a rip-off and there were lots of disappointed children around.

Apparently, they have separate dining rooms and different characters service both, so my son inadvertently saw two Goofys at the same time, which was confusing. (But he just thought Goofy had run really fast.)

As for the food, there was a lot of it, but little of it edible to my mind. How do they have stale donuts at the first seating of the day? Kind of mind boggling. My son enjoyed the kid-level buffet, but everything on it was cold, including the Mickey waffles.

The character interaction here seemed a lot more rushed and the parade was half-hearted at best. We didn’t really eat and my son didn’t really enjoy himself all that much so it didn’t seem like $75 well spent. After that experience we cancelled our third character breakfast reservation at Crystal Palace.

I think it was probably a good plan to cancel your third character breakfast. As I've said, they are all fairly similar (with the exception of the princess meals).

That night we went to Victoria and Albert’s which was sublime. I was so worried after all the so-so Disney experiences so far, but this was one of the best meals of our lives and nothing Disney-like at all. A real wow that was worth every single penny (and, trust me, it was a LOT of pennies). I’ll post about it in the Victoria and Albert’s thread.

I'm very glad to hear you loved V&A. It is exactly as you mentioned, sublime. We have eaten there three times in the past year and we will likely return twice more in 2011.

We ventured off property to try the Sweet by Holly cupcakes. Oh my goodness were they yummy! Totally worth the trip (or delivery charge). Just wonderful. We got the Christmas assortment of mini-cupcakes and they were to die for. And then couldn’t help ourselves trying the red velvet and they were just SO good. (We ended up with too many to finish, but what we did were excellent.)

That night we went to the Hoop-De-Doo Revue, which my son adored. Honestly, it might have been his favorite thing on the whole trip. Again, the food was edible, but little more (Jiffy box cornbread, Kentucky Fried Chicken, box mashed potatoes and canned beans), but the show was lots of fun and my son left singing and stomping for the next 30 minutes.

Sadly, like the character meals, the dinner shows are more about the shows than the dinner. Based on reviews of Hoop De Doo....well I wouldn't have expected much. :confused3

The next day we made a last-minute lunch reservation at the San Angel Inn (there was little to choose from). When the hostess asked us what we were celebrating I said, ‘Getting in out of the cold.’ (It was 20 degrees at the time.) She laughed.

The food, again, was sub-par, but we expected that. The soup I had was clearly from a can (again, so salty!). The atmosphere was interesting, though we were nowhere near the stream, and the margaritas were nothing compared to La Hacienda. It was nice and warm though, making it almost seem worthwhile.

Again, San Angel is one of the restaurants that gets the most uneven reviews. It isn't exactly noted as wonderful food.

That night, after a good bit of disappointing Disney dining, we cancelled our dinner ADR and had a local friend bring Papa John’s pizza, which we ate in the club lounge at the Polynesian.

The next day it was time for our long-held lunch reservation at Le Cellier. We were seated VERY promptly (even early) and the hostesses at the front were great and fun. Our waitress though was not exactly highly motivated. She was very blasé, didn’t want to joke (when she offered us “signature Canadian cocktails” I joked that I didn’t know Canada had a national cocktail and she, looking completely nonplussed, simply pointed to the menu list) and altogether bored. She disappeared for long periods of time and I never even got a soda refill.

My husband had an open face sandwich, which he said was good. My son had a hotdog and French fries he didn’t eat (though, that was his only hotdog and fries on the trip, so I thought I was doing well) and I had (and shared with hubby) the mushroom filet over mashed potatoes. Having experienced all the too-salty food, and hearing salt complaints about this place, I was really worried but, in the end, it was fine. Not great—if you’ve been to Outback, you’ve experienced this level of food and service before—but not bad, and well better than average compared to the Disney food we’d experienced thus far. Perhaps that’s how this place got such a great rep. It’s not really good, but it is outstanding compared to other Disney options.

Le Cellier's rep is mainly due to 2 things: 1. The soup 2. You can get a filet for 1TS credit. It isn't hyped for quality. However, it will be interesting to see the changes that are due - it is becoming a signature restaurant (on par with California Grill) in March.

On the last day we went to Downtown Disney and tried Babycakes NYC. My son had a doughnut and I tried the red velvet cupcake. (They didn’t have brownie bites that day.) The woman at the counter was SO nice and friendly; I wanted to love this place. Alas, the red velvet cupcake was dry and pretty tasteless and the icing tasted like powdered sugar … and nothing else. My son’s doughnut was better, but still dry and chalky.

We ate a late lunch/dinner at T-Rex. We didn’t expect the food to be good here, and that expectation was rewarded. Very greasy, clearly frozen hamburger patty (trying to stick to easy/safe food) and lukewarm waffle fries (for which there was an up-charge). Probably would have been better off eating at the Pollo Camparo, which actually smelled pretty good when we were in the building for Babycakes. T-Rex is definitely a do-it-once-for-the-kids experience that I never want to have again. (Both my husband and I felt a little queasy afterwards. I think it was just so greasy.) And, frankly, after a week in Disney World, animatronic dinosaurs and meteor showers were almost ho-hum to my almost-four-year-old used to Disney magic around every corner. Definitely would have been a bigger hit on night one, before we visited the parks.

Other than that, my son had one Mickey ice cream bar and we had one bite of a truly awful, but it looked good, cupcake from the Main Street Bakery in the Magic Kingdom. That kind of summed up my entire feeling about Disney food (minus Victoria and Albert’s, which really shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Disney food): it LOOKS good, but tastes pretty bad.

We also tried the “hot chocolate” at the Christmas party, which was nothing but brown colored boiling water. Mostly I just wanted to pour it on my feet because it was C-O-L-D.

I will add that I’m stunned they don’t have better drink options for kids at the many drink kiosks. Nothing but soda, water and Crystal Light. How hard would it be to have even an apple juice option at a place with so many young kids? Or a juice box? Or, something, marginally kid-friendly?

I went in with pretty low food expectations, and they were met. I left thinking that anyone who visits Disney for the food is bound to be disappointed. And, if you have a car and want to save a buck, just about any off-property chain restaurant, and they’re everywhere, is going to give you a better experience than Disney dining.

Sorry that you had such a lack-luster food experience.

Might I suggest the following when (if) you return:

- Avoid the character meals - they aren't really about quality of food. You are paying for the character interaction.
- Avoid the dinner shows - same as above
- Focus on signature restaurants - Jiko, Flying Fish, California Grill are all wonderful
- Try some mid-range restaurants like Chefs de France and Kona Cafe.
 
Okay... I have one question and I'm not being rude or snarky. Curious were you more upset of the prices of the food or the quality? Because eating at Papa John's isn't a high quality pizza but I'm assuming it was better because the price and quality matched. I'm just trying to figure out what made you most unhappy about Disney Dining. Also, if you didn't eat at California Grill then, where did you eat that night?

I'm sorry you had a rotten time.

We actually never had dinner that night. We had some cheese in the room (from the great wine store we visited before getting to Disney; Wine Barn, by the way, in Orlando, is a GREAT store!), a few yogurt pretzels we also brought with, the Sweet Holly cupcakes and a cereal bar and yogurt (also snacks we brought ourselves) for my son. Not exactly a balanced meal but it was late by then and we just weren't into trudging to the Contemporary to see if they'd still take us. My son was cranky after sitting on the train for so long, so attempting a sit down dinner at that point seemed foolish, regardless of the hour.

We actually didn't have a rotten time overall. I didn't expect much of the food, so I went in knowing it wouldn't be great and it wasn't make or break for me. I also knew we were paying for the show/characters at Hoop De Doo and character buffets. At 'Ohana the characters were very worthwhile and made up for the food, and the same with the show at Hoop De Doo--corny as all get out, but loads of fun. We'd actually probably go back to both, but NOT for the food.

Agreed. Papa John's is not high quality, but the price was right, we had a nice bottle of wine in the room to enjoy with it (upping its tastiness by quite a bit), and it was quick and easy.

The Disney restaurants I experienced, with the major exception of Victoria and Albert's, weren't something I'd return to for the food. Now, in terms of being at Disney and eating there for convenience, I think it would be worth it, IF the prices were on par with the food, i.e. Applebees or Chili's. Usually when we eat at those chain-restaurants, it's because we're traveling and need something quickly/conveniently. We don't go there looking for fine cuisine.

Oh and I'd just about bet my life that the salsa we had at La Hacienda, and the chips, were jarred/bagged respectively. Both salsas had that ultra-smooth consistency with a slightly tinny tang that signal jarred to me and the chips were too thick and stiff to be fresh-fried tortilla chips, which many Mexican chains serve. Hey, we eat chips from a bag at home with salsa (the salsa I make myself), so it's not like it killed me. Maybe they tried to do better at the opening and found it wasn't possible with the volume? Who knows? They weren't inedible, by any means, but they were pretty pedestrian. I'd still say though that Hacienda was a step above San Angel, food-wise, or maybe I'm just swayed by the margaritas. By the way, the ones we got at San Angel were actually from La Cava. My husband tried the avocado, which I thought tasted more like banana, and I had a passion fruit, that I just found altogether too sweet and Hawaiian Punch-like.
 
We actually never had dinner that night. We had some cheese in the room (from the great wine store we visited before getting to Disney; Wine Barn, by the way, in Orlando, is a GREAT store!), a few yogurt pretzels we also brought with, the Sweet Holly cupcakes and a cereal bar and yogurt (also snacks we brought ourselves) for my son. Not exactly a balanced meal but it was late by then and we just weren't into trudging to the Contemporary to see if they'd still take us. My son was cranky after sitting on the train for so long, so attempting a sit down dinner at that point seemed foolish, regardless of the hour.

We actually didn't have a rotten time overall. I didn't expect much of the food, so I went in knowing it wouldn't be great and it wasn't make or break for me. I also knew we were paying for the show/characters at Hoop De Doo and character buffets. At 'Ohana the characters were very worthwhile and made up for the food, and the same with the show at Hoop De Doo--corny as all get out, but loads of fun. We'd actually probably go back to both, but NOT for the food.

Agreed. Papa John's is not high quality, but the price was right, we had a nice bottle of wine in the room to enjoy with it (upping its tastiness by quite a bit), and it was quick and easy.

The Disney restaurants I experienced, with the major exception of Victoria and Albert's, weren't something I'd return to for the food. Now, in terms of being at Disney and eating there for convenience, I think it would be worth it, IF the prices were on par with the food, i.e. Applebees or Chili's. Usually when we eat at those chain-restaurants, it's because we're traveling and need something quickly/conveniently. We don't go there looking for fine cuisine.

Oh and I'd just about bet my life that the salsa we had at La Hacienda, and the chips, were jarred/bagged respectively. Both salsas had that ultra-smooth consistency with a slightly tinny tang that signal jarred to me and the chips were too thick and stiff to be fresh-fried tortilla chips, which many Mexican chains serve. Hey, we eat chips from a bag at home with salsa (the salsa I make myself), so it's not like it killed me. Maybe they tried to do better at the opening and found it wasn't possible with the volume? Who knows? They weren't inedible, by any means, but they were pretty pedestrian. I'd still say though that Hacienda was a step above San Angel, food-wise, or maybe I'm just swayed by the margaritas. By the way, the ones we got at San Angel were actually from La Cava. My husband tried the avocado, which I thought tasted more like banana, and I had a passion fruit, that I just found altogether too sweet and Hawaiian Punch-like.

I believe you in the salsa was jarred and the chips were bagged. How do I know that from reviews. I ate at San Angel Inn in Nov 2008 and I think I even did a review and my review indicated it was jarred. Here's the picture I took.

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I'm sorry you didn't read that in any of the reviews but honestly your restaurant choices aren't what I would pick if I was expecting a higher quality meal. I think, I've read countless reviews about how Mexican restaurants at Epcot are horrible. Everyone had different tastes buds but I think, sometimes you have to read through the reviews and figure does that person have same tastes as me. All reviews are subjective.

Unfortunately, you picked alot of places where Disney doesn't shine in the food department.
 















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