smoking on balcony

[Disney Dollarless]

Hi!!

Am headed for BWV in late Sept and am taking my mother, aunt and too many to count. My Aunt and some of the others smoke. We do not allow smoking inside EVER! But is it rude to be staying in a Non smoking room and allowing my aunt and whoever to smoke on the balcony?

Thanks!!!

 

[ncligs]

I give this thread 15 minutes.............

But to answer your question.......yes it would be rude.

 

[spiceycat]

can you get the smokers a studio in the smokers section - just a suggestion.

 

[mckryan]

Originally posted by Disney Dollarless
But is it rude to be staying in a Non smoking room and allowing my aunt and whoever to smoke on the balcony?

Yep, it's rude to the people staying around you that might want to enjoy their balcony but have to smell the smoke coming from yours. If they want to smoke, they need to go outside to an area away from the balconies and entrances to buildings (so people don't have to walk through a smoke cloud). Or, like the other poster suggested, get them a smoking room.

 

[RobDoc]

If you ask the resort if it's permissable to smoke on the balcony, you will be told it is all right.

At BWV (or VWL or BCV) your non-smoking room may be just below or above a smoking room and you may be subjected to smoke from a smoking optional room in that fashion.

OKW is the only onsite DVC Resort where entire buildings are smoking or non-smoking- and even there smokers are told it's permissable to smoke outside on their balcony (HH has the same policy).

Any debate about the virtues and/or morality of smoking may be considered on the Debate Board- they are not a DVC topic.

Thanks!

 

[tkmcw]

Another thought would be to try to get a top floor unit. If your smoking guests are conscientious about disposing thier trash (buts, etc.) appropriately, being located on the top floor MAY alleviate the concern about smoking bothering those around you. It is often not just the smoke itself that bothers people, but how smokers handle thier trash.

You could also ask your neighbors in the units next to you!

In the end, the best solution would be to get them a unit in which smoking is allowed.

 

[zulaya]

Please keep in mind that just because they smoke on the balcony doesn't mean residual will not be there for the next occupant of that unit. People use their balconies...I'd hate to be a non-smoker getting a non-smoking "unit" where smokers have decided to use the balcony and their smell has stayed around.

I know that resorts will probably let you, but please, please consider getting them a smoking unit so that they don't bother other non-smokers who are trying to enjoy their balconies around you.

If you can't get them a smoking unit, please urge them to go outside the building if they have to light up.

 

[DeeP]

Originally posted by zulaya
Please keep in mind that just because they smoke on the balcony doesn't mean residual will not be there for the next occupant of that unit. People use their balconies...I'd hate to be a non-smoker getting a non-smoking "unit" where smokers have decided to use the balcony and their smell has stayed around.

I know that resorts will probably let you, but please, please consider getting them a smoking unit so that they don't bother other non-smokers who are trying to enjoy their balconies around you.

If you can't get them a smoking unit, please urge them to go outside the building if they have to light up.

I use my balcony a lot and 95% of the time when I am on my balcony there is no one else in sight on any other balcony. The exception to this is during Illuminations when staying at BWV, then many people are on the balcony to view the show.
It would not bother me if someone was smoking on the balcony right next to, over or under me, or not, but as I said 95% of the time we are the only ones out there! We often comment that everyone has these beautiful balconies and we seem to be the only ones that use them.
The balconies are all open aired with plastic furniture, no cloth fabrics of any kind anywhere, I can't see how a smoker's smell would remain on the balcony.

 

[kaw1106]

Deep down you know it is rude, or you wouldn't have posted. I am sure their smoking bothers you just as much as it bothers other non-smokers.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Originally posted by DeeP
...The balconies are all open aired with plastic furniture, no cloth fabrics of any kind anywhere, I can't see how a smoker's smell would remain on the balcony.

Would smoking smell on smokers clothing be brought into the non-smoking rooms and remain?

I appreciate the original poster asking instead of just doing whatever they want, it seems like a difficult situation to try to handle. Probably the solution is to get a smoking room, and the non-smokers not smoke in the room, and use the smoking room balconey. I know that may be a huge sacrifice for the non-smokers, but I presume smoking rooms include smoking balconeys, whether non-smokers who are neihbors like it or not.

Personally, I'm not able to sleep in a room where I can smell smoke from previous guests. But I appreciate your effort to find a reasonalbe solution.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Originally posted by kaw1106
Deep down you know it is rude, or you wouldn't have posted. I am sure their smoking bothers you just as much as it bothers other non-smokers.

I think it was a very considerate and legit question.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
I think it was a very considerate and legit question.

I knew our DVC smoking "expert"

would come through.......thanks Gail.

 

[kel3420]

"Would smoking smell on smokers clothing be brought into the non-smoking rooms and remain? "

I am tired and exhausted from working outside in the garden all day, but excuse me, this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. Get real.

Bottom line is, is that smoking is allowed outside on the patios or balconys of Disney Resorts even in nonsmoking rooms or even, gasp, non smoking buildings. If there is no one outside , and there isusually is not, then feel free to smoke. Geez Luiz, if Grandma can't have a cigarette outside where smoking is absolutely allowed by Disney, then I dont even want to type what I want to say.

I fully expect this thread to get moved to the debate board where it belongs. When you get into the absolute ridiculousness of someone asking whether the smell will be brought in on someone's clothes, then that board is where it belongs.

This same topic gets brought up every every month or so, and it is starting to border on insanity. People smoke, get over it. There are rude smokers of course, but most smokers, and I would guess a very high majority, as ADULTs, realize that it offends other people, and with that, go out of their way not to do so intentionally to bother others. With that being said, there are very few places in Disnay to legally smoke. When given a nonsmoking room because there are no smoking rooms left, and being TOLD by the front desk that we are allowed to smoke on the balcony, than that is what people will do, bottom line. I have never been to Disney, out on the balcony and looked around and seem more than one person on their balcony. If someone wants to have a cigarette then so be it.

It is not even my grandma we are talking about, but my goodness, if my dear grandma, for whatever reason, wants to smoke a cigarette, a pipe or even a cigar if she so well chooses, I am certainly not going to tell her to stop

I'll get off my high horse now and get some rest. This topic is gettin under my skin, can you tell? LOL

If so many of you are that very serious about smokers, request that DVC build a completly nonsmoking resort.


By the way, I am not even a smoker, but for goodness sakes, get serious.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by kel3420
If so many of you are that very serious about smokers, request that DVC build a completly nonsmoking resort.

I second that kel3420.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Originally posted by kel3420
"Would smoking smell on smokers clothing be brought into the non-smoking rooms and remain? "

I am tired and exhausted from working outside in the garden all day, but excuse me, this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. Get real.

Excuse me, kel3420 but get off your high horse, and your "LOL" doesn't cover it. Sorry if smoking threads get under your skin, but if you'll notice the majority of my post was in support of the original poster posing the considerate question. "Ridiculous" is your rant going fairly far off topic from the original poster's question. I guess the strategy is to try to push this to the debate board, instead of help out the original poster with some useful advice. Granted that one line out of the full post may have not been the most useful, but it's one line out of an on-topic reply, that's supportive of the original poster asking the considerate question.

When you've paid major dollars for an expensive timeshare, waited several months for precious vacation time with your family and then are put in a situation where you are unable to sleep an night in your timeshare and also have concerns with your children's health issues because you are a non-smoking family due to health issues that was put in a room that had previous smokers in it and strong smoke odors, it is certainly not unreasonable to have concerns over that situation, whether those concerns meet with other poster's approval or not. That's real. I appreciate the original poster asking the question and trying to find a good solution.

Oh well, enough about smoking at DVC resorts for me tonight. Good luck original poster. Hope future replies are more helpful.

 

[Disney Dollarless]

Thanks to all for responding. I thought i would ask so i could maybe show the smoking family how people feel.

I did rent my 71 yr old mother and Aunt (smoking) their own studio, but mom can't handle the smoke. And we rented a 2 bdrm for the rest of us and some of the ppl traveling with us smoke.

And the smoking family is very tidy bunch, Aunt even carries a smoke snuffer thing that looks like a cup. She never leaves a butt anywhere.

Thanks again and i will try my best to make them all aware if they do smoke.

 

[wilderness01]

Part of me does feel sorry for smokers that there is not very many places to go and smoke. The other part of me that is asthmatic dreads the thought of smokers smoking on the balcony and then going and sitting/laying on the couch. Sorry but smoke does linger on your clothes and why wouldn't it then linger on the couch? Doesn't sound too far fetched to me. Especially if you just put the smoke out and then go and sit down inside the unit. I guess if the smell of smoke didn't make me have an asthma attack I wouldn't care and be less concerned about it but since it does.......I would say no please don't smoke on the balcony.

 

[Peter Johnson]

DW and I are non-smoking asthmatics. Each morning we eat breakfast on the patio. Last December there was a smoker below our patio each day, and we were unable to use the patio because of the smoke. It seemed every time we went out onto the patio, any time of day, someone was smoking.

We contacted the desk, and were surprised to discover it was allowed.

Did it wreck our vacation? No. Did it annoy and inconvenience us? Yes. But this was also the first time we've really noticed it, so it doesn't happen all the time.

We would vote for a non-smoking resort too!

 

[rbuzzotta]

Just ask for a bldg. that you can smoke on the balcony!!

Our recent trip the people above me smoke (yes,I know smoke rises) and i was able to smell it below!!

If a bldg. is designated Non Smoking then it should be Non Smoking. Rules are Rules......

Maybe you can call a few days ahead and inquire as to how you can handle this.............I wouldn't want to see Grandma smoking on the balcony of a NS bldg and some irate neighbor calls the front desk (that could make for a bad vacation).

Good luck.............

 

[MaryJ]

Originally posted by DeeP
I use my balcony a lot and 95% of the time when I am on my balcony there is no one else in sight on any other balcony.

Last summer when we were staying in a NS room at BWV, our neighbors would come out on the balcony each morning and at least one of them would light up. I couldn't see them because of the solid wall between our balconies, but I could certainly smell the smoke!

It is for this reason that when we travel with our friends to WDW for the F&WF that I will ask my friend to go to the main floor and go outside before she smokes.